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wow thats cool, i didnt know sunglasses could make a cactus flower...

dang thats very nice. i reallllly like fat growing trich's like that. thats why i love my juuls giants! gota find me some of these.

is that a myrtillo cactus in the second picture?

Interesting. Thanks for your time MS Smith I was hoping you would respond. If you get a chance can you help me with this guy? http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=37419&p=451808

What about this T. Pachanoi? This is being sold as a legit Pachanoi NOT a PC. What do ya'll think? Sorry to bring up such a newb topic repeatedly. im just getting started in cactus/succulent collecting so im trying to learn everything i can.

ok so here are 3 sets of Pachanoi. Obtained from 3 separate locations from different people. I think they are all PC. What do ya'll think? the 5th one to the right looks fat and healthy. I think im just in denial because they are so healthy and fat i just wish they werent PC!

ya thats what ive heard as well. although ive read also that even the white hairs on the flowers go brownish pretty quick on PC from the sun.

ok i am pretty certain now that it is Trichocereus Camarguensis its thelongonus... gota be.lol NOTE: the first pic is of a Trichocereus Camarguensis.

...its about 3-4" wide. Looks exactly like a Trichocereus thelegonus , good call interbeing, i think so at least. in the first pic you can see the patterning that is obvious on most thelongonus, the 6 sided shapes. second image shows it more pronounced on a google image pic what do ya'll think?

I totally see it now thanks guys finally i can tell the difference!

perspective

I dont understand how you can identify a PC vs non-PC pachanoi. can you explain? do you think my attached pics are PC ?

So guys. As some of you know i was recently at a really nice cactus farm and was toured around the place by the grower himself. He's been at it for over 30 years and he was quite knowledgeable. Somthing that struck me though was that he had at least 6+ LARGE stands of this EXACT same plant. 100% exact same plant. The growth patterns were unmistakable. I know that alot of people talked about the fact that this particular plant looked "hard grown" and that may have lead to its current look and that if grown differently or grown to a larger mature size that it would show different characteristics. The thing is, these stands were old and large and looked 100% exactly the same as my little stand. This makes me think that this plant looks exactly as it should. That is is not hard grown or grown in any odd way to change its normal look of growth. All the stands i saw of this plant were either in shade, or no shade, it didnt effect the growth pattern. The reason i bring this up and this cactus farmer up is that he was very adamant that it was not a T. Cuzcoensis remarking iether that cuzco is normally bigger around or just more round. I cant remember his exact phrasing. But everytime i saw another stand i would comment how i thought it was a cuzco since it was identical to this plant which alot of people believed to be cuzco. This guy said he knew it was a trichocereus and that it was more peruvianus to him if anything. EDIT: btw the original cactus in this thread is mine. not sure if that was clear i finally can post! also im quite sure its a T. Cuzcoensis due to its large old spine growth expands at the base just as MS Smith indicated a cuzco does.