modern.shaman

What traits make a cactus 'mature'?; besides flowering. Flowering maturity would be the end all trait to this question. Is it spacing between areoles, size of areoles, thickness of stem, age, length of stem? Trichocereus is pretty varied but I mean pedro, peru, bridgesii, and others; not smaller flowering trichocereus like grandiflorus or hybrids for colored flowers. Post pictures of cacti if that helps. I ask because I would like to try inducing flowering on some cacti but they need to be 'mature' enough. Nitrogen mentioned that 4-6 year old from seed seems to be the age they first start to bloom but is it just an internal timer rather then visual traits?

http://deepdreamgenerator.com/ It is pretty neat to play with but seems pretty repetitive although sometimes does create some nice images.

Does anyone have a trichocereus pasacana or terscheckii crest? I only see 1 picture online by Valentino. It seems that they are as rare as Carnegiea Gigantea crest in cultivation. I find long spine crests pretty attractive like Stetsonia crest and hope to get one from seed. Plan on sowing 1k seeds of terscheckii just to find a crest.... Plan on grafting another 'kohres scop' to see if it also looks more like pasacana/terscheckii. I have a crested seedlings but IDK species.

Did this 'revert' to crest or remain penis? Here is one of my favorite plants TBMC in a 6 inch pot. It is still quite small but seems to have adapted to my climate and stopped callousing/weeping and is growing nicely now. I noticed that mine grows a little hairy when new spines are coming thru... a long form tbm has some small fuzz on the tip which is weird to me but I'm sure just a spine coming in.

Echinopsis pachanoi... I wasn't aware that they were not legal in EU? If you were in AU I would have given you that response. Pach-anne is how I always read it but that is wrong.

Pachanoi indeed ... maybe she is hinting that it is PC clone?

Didn't think that was against the rules since not about potency, my bad. Read that in other plants that trait could be bred out so I guess in can also be done. Thanks for that info about t. terscheckii being a dominate father. If I am able to get that pollen I'll try it. Idk if my small pc pedro cutting will flower before/in sync but shouldn't be too hard to get pc pollen from someone else. One more question... ('san pedro' x color flower) would not likely flower as early/small as other trichocereus hybrids with colored flowers right; Due to pedro being dominant it would need to be a few feet in size before flowering?

Evil genius, I saw you mention that you'd recommend using the colored flower as the father but was wondering if it is possible to breed in activity to those trichocereus hybrids. I'm aware that mother's are commonly the dominant parent for traits. I'd like peoples opinion on this. I've got a few hybrid colored flowers that should bloom this year and was hoping to get some pc pedro or any other pollen to cross. First cross not important so long as some of the bodies have reduced rib count and are more pedro like. Following crosses can be more traditional san pedros. Picking out seedlings should be easier then colored flowers as fathers. Not the goal here but I'd prefer a quicker flowering active semi-columnar rather than a traditional san pedro with color, due to time and size issue. A short pedro body (low rib count unlike grandiflorus) with colored flowers is my goal.

The pupping in your case it likely due to a strong root system and it wanting to grow faster then possible. Similar to grafts pupping excessively at first. Witches broom seems rare with trichocereus but I have seen a few pictures there was an old photo on the nook. Witches broom causes excessive pupping to the point that it doesn't grow but just keeps pupping and tend to happen at the growth rips rather than base. Here is a recent example I've seen online of what I would call witches broom.

I'm pretty sure that a flower bud is forming at the center. Hopefully it makes it to bloom and becomes my first mandrake flower :D It is forming on the mandrake in the second picture with the larger leaves.

Here are my mandrakes... I don't think that I've posted a picture yet Growth rate picked up recently.

flower buds forming? variegation doesn't seem to fit IMO.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trichocereus-Scopulicola-x-Trichocereus-Bridgesii-Jada-4-rib-from-seed-/272106225919?hash=item3f5acb80ff:g:mjcAAOSwoydWmUYT $100 usd for a 1 inch seedling that has four ribs Looks more like a cereus seedlings rather than trichocereus. Pretty funny guy.

I only have officinarum. My weather is warm year round with only a slight cooling during winter. This year I was able to keep my two mandrake actively growing thru the summer by keeping it indoors and watering every two weeks. I'm not sure if they NEED a dormant period.

From my understanding mandrake = officinarum and womandrake = automnalis. They are not the same plant and the flower differs I think. I tend to water all my plants year round just reduce frequency when it cools down a bit. I like to keep my plants water to prevent feeder roots from dying back or at least reducing the amount of loss. Not sure if it is the best idea as it never goes dormant but I think I may get flowers this spring one of my drakes looks very healthy and happy. (winter right now)

I keep watering my mandrake in the summer, when it is dormant, just less frequently maybe every 3-4 weeks. When day temps start to cool down to 30 C or less the 'drakes will likely start to awaken from dormancy likely mid fall.

I'd call that a Pachanoi/Peruvianus

I'm not in AU but something you may consider is making a multi person swap. You fill a box with succulents and send to the first person on the list then they take some and put some back and send it to the next person. You do this for everyone that wants to enter (make a list and order) and then the last person sends back to you. The only rule would be if you take something out you must put something in... but they can put more than they take out. Obviously will need to pay more if gets too heavy.

I may be wrong but I remember a member on here having a TBC however think he sold it on eBay. Can't remember if he kept a clone or not. I'm in the US but do plan on sending one to AU at some time. Will talk to some that have successfully sent for some tips. Edit: Found it tipz is the one that had a TBC in AU http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=33835&hl=bridgessi#entry394101

Nitrogen's magic beans surely have increased the amount of TPM in circulation. I wonder if any will show some unique montrose growth like spineless growth long term From my private talks with collectors there are 2 TBMC(possibly more); one that reverts short TBM and another that reverts long TBM. There is also a seed grown TBM 'short?' owned by MostlyHarmless (UK) on the Shroomery. A nursery in the US that lists some small TMB short on eBay based on the listing they are a clone from his seed grown plant although am not sure if true. From seed I've had 3 or 4 crested bridgesii seedlings emerge (non-monstrose I think) however they were all weak and died before or after grafting; a few variegated/albino seedlings as well. I am currently growing a TBC that started as a normal seedlings and after stalling for 2-3 months during growing season it had several pups and one of them became crested was sown late '13-early '14 I think. Was starting to doubt that it was bridgesii due to short spines on mother and grafts look very different, however they are starting to grow more bridgesii like; I assume my plant is bridesii x pachanoi/peruvianus. Next year should start showing more mature traits... can't wait. There is a variegated bridgesii in existence and also a booby-like bridsgesii mutant (not sure if it retained the trait or where I saw these). I try to sow 1000 seeds every year and heavily curl the survivors and keep only a few in hope that it mutates and of 3-4k only have 1 to show as I sell/giveaway the normal seedlings I also tend to have a HIGH kill off rate of 1000 I manage to keep around 100 seedlings after a few months. I'd love to own a terscheckii and a scopulicola crest. Looking at photos this seedling has grown quite a lot within a year. I thought my plant was around 3 years old November 2014 Pups before removing them under a year old (spines were large relative to size due to high sun and low water conditions) Early January 2015 at around ~1 year old Mid November 2015 at over 12 inches at ~2 years old; spines have started growing longer this past week Mid November 2015 grafted on Cereus stock... the spines look VERY different Was starting to doubt it was bridgesii due to spines but I think it may just be the growing conditions/age. I have giving small clones to a few people to see how it grows in different conditions. Grafts seem to bring out different (recessive) traits.

It does exist... there are a few overseas that have plants and many in the states that have attempted importing (some with success but needs to be grown to confirm ID) Next year or two there should be some in circulation in the US with possible different clones or they are all the same. Will be slow to spread due to slow growth similar to viridis. Here is a member in Brasil with a real plant http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=17619&p=501484

I think you got the ID's on your cacti correct and I would call these Pachanoi.

awesome... pm incoming

Here is my beat-up graft. The smaller pup also has black rot now :/ I hope that this graft can push through and will survive. Sorry for the poor photos lighting was weird at the time Does anyone in the US have a spineless scop cutting they could sell me or does anyone have lc scop x scop or other "spinesless" scop x seeds? I don't need many seeds just around 20 or so.

Ok thanks that is really helpful... Looking at zelly's post on Leyenda from AZS it matches the age of your flowering cacti. SS usually sells seedlings that are around 3 years old + 2 in AZ sun