zed240

All current orders are filled and have been posted out. Happy sowing to all who have them, or have them still coming their way. The list is up to date with what's still available, so please PM me to make an order.

Did we happen to lose the ability to "quote" other users post in the recent update too? It's been a little while since I tried to quote another members post but I tried today and couldn't find the option.

HI @Macca Yes, you've worked the total out correctly and I can send you those ones, but I can't PM you for some reason, maybe because you're a new member? Could you please try to send me a PM so I can reply to you? Otherwise, if any Mod/admin see this could you make it possible for us to PM each other? Thanks!

If you happen to have any more Kimura you could spare I would be very keen.

Not ebay, but it looks like a nice clone on the SAB store. http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/shop/echinopsis_peruviana_monstrose_x_e_lageniformis_n1_plant_90_pr_1976.php

Thanks for the orders, @Evil Genius , @AZS and @Chilito. I will pack up what you guys are after this afternoon. And regarding Z032 - Hahn pachanoi X Fields pachanoi that both AZS and Chilito asked for, I can do a pack of a little over 30 each for you of that one. I already sowed a few of that cross myself and that'll leave me with about 20 or so seeds just in case I kill what I've already sown.... I will PM you both about it as I will reduce the cost of that one for you each.

I have a range of seeds from the 2016/2017 season now ready for sale. I will donate 10% of each sale price to the SAB server costs. Please have a look over what's available at the link below. [edit] - pictures of parent plants are included in the sale thread

Full list of zed240 hybrids from 2015 - 2017 (so far). If you have pics of plants you have grown from my seeds I would love to see them. Feel free to put pics in this thread. 2015 Cat number Z001 Yowie X Psycho0 Z002 Psycho0 X Yowie Z003 Yowie X BBs Scop Z004 PC Pach X BBs Scop Z005 Yowie X PC Pach Z006 PC pach X Gawler peru 2016 Z007 SA SS Tersch X Scopulicola Z008 Chilensis (James) X Ech. Seminudus Z009 scopulicola X Anakie (peru) Z010 Gawler peru X scopulicola Z011 Norma (peru) X Anakie (peru) Z012 Tipz macro X scopulicola Z013 Gawler peru X Norma (peru) Z014 scopulicolaX Norma (peru) Z015 Super Pedro X Norma (peru) Z016 Norma (peru) X Hahn pachanoi Z017 Hahn pachanoi X scopulicola Z018 scopulicola X Hahn pachanoi Z019 Fields pachanoi X Norma (peru) Z020 Tipz macro X Norma (peru) 2017 Z021 "Roy" pachanoi X Ech. Spring Blush Z022 "Roy" pachanoi X Fields pachanoi Z023 "Roy" pachanoi X Super Pedro Z024 (Scop x Fat Spach) X Scop Z025 Chilensis (fat Strath) X Schick pink Z026 Chilensis (fat Strath) X scop (Heynes) Z027 Ech. Spring Blush X scop (Heynes) Z028 Gawler Peru X Hahn Pach Z029 Gawler peru X SA SS Tersch Z030 Hahn pach X Roseii 1 Z031 Hahn pach X Roseii 2 Z032 Hahn pachanoi X Fields pachanoi Z033 Helen (Secret Garden) X Gawler peru Z034 Knuthianus X (Juuls Giant X scop) Z035 Knuthianus X Hahn pachanoi Z036 Knuthianus X scop (Heynes) Z037 Knuthianus X scop (or red grandi??) Z038 PC pachanoi X Super Pedro Z039 Riverland peruvianus X SA SS Tersch Z040 SA SS Tersch X Fields Pachanoi Z041 SA SS Tersch X Gawler Peru Z042 SA SS tersch X Hahn pach Z043 SA SS tersch X knuthianus Z044 SA SS Tersch X PC pachanoi Z045 SA SS Tersch X Roseii 1 (MB pollen) Z046 SA SS Tersch X Scop (heynes) Z047 Schick Pink X Ech. Spring Blush Z048 Schick pink X scop Z049 Scop X SA SS Tersch Z050 Scop (Heynes) X "Roy" pachanoi Z051 Scop (Heynes) X Chilensis (fat Strath) Z052 Scop (Heynes) X Scop (Hillside) Z053 Scop (Hillside) X Fields pachanoi Z054 Scop X (Juul's Giant X Scop) Z055 Scop (worm) X Helen (Secret Garden) Z056 Scop (worm) X Scop (Heynes) Z057 Scop (Zed's) X "Roy" pachanoi Z058 Scop (Zed's) X Fields pachanoi Z059 Scop (Zed's) X Scop (Hulk) Z060 scop (Zed's) X Super Pedro Z061 scop X Gawler Peru Z062 scop X knuthianus Z063 Super Pedro X Gawler Peru Z064 Super Pedro X Hahn pach Z065 Super pedro X knuthianus Z066 Super Pedro X PC pachanoi Z067 Super Pedro X SA SS Tersch Z068 Tipz Macro X Hahn pachanoi Z069 Tipz Macro X Super Pedro

I finally got my 2016/2017 genetics all sorted out and have put up and ad to sell some seeds. I will donate 10% of each sale price to the SAB server costs. (for sales done through SAB)

You sure it wasn't a selenicereus sp. or some other cactus that has similar looking limbs that they had used as graft stock rather than a stapeliad? As far as I'm aware it's impossible to graft a cactus onto a plant from a completely different family and have it work. And stapeliads aren't very closely related to cactus. Otherwise pics of this crazy oddity you speak of would be very cool to see.

I think 2 and 3 looks a lot like some of the chilensis clones we have here too. Clearer pics would help a lot though.

This isn't a cactus so grafting cactuses to it won't work, but you can graft other things from the same family to it, like Hoodia or other stapeliads. And these have really cool flowers @Zedo, yours is probably stapelia grandiflora or stapelia gigantea. I'd guess gigantea but when the flower opens it should help you more.

Thanks heaps for making this thread, Berengar. I would love to see any plants people have grown from my seeds. I will write out a list of all the hybrids I've created in my garden and spread out to people. At least that way people can look at my lists and know what I have and have't created. I will also add some pics of my own at some stage. There will also be many more hybrids from my garden this year available very soon, including some I am very excited about.

Sure, I'll give it a go. Here is a bunch of the images I've managed to track down in the different places I seem to save my pictures....... When the flowers decide to grow and open on a horizontal plane they look like more "san pedro" types, but my plant has often flowered on a much more vertical plane which is a bit reminiscent of the way lots of the giants flowers point towards the sky. Although I now think my plant flowers pointing toward the sky due to the plants growing near it making the plant point them more toward the light, than the other plants, but that's a bit of a guess from observing it a few times. You can see both horizontal and more vertical flower pics lower down this post. I also note just before they open the tip of the flower buds on this plant are much more rounded than the tips of flowers are on other trichos, perus and pachs always seem to have very sharp pointed tips to their flower buds just before they open. See how round the tips on all these buds are, (that are only a day or so from opening). A peru or pach flower at the same stage will be very pointy. - in comparison, see how pointy the yet to open buds are on this scop. Hairs on the flowers always seem to be a light grey, whether shaded or in sun they've always been light grey and I've never seen particularly dark hair on this plant, personally. I have also found it extremely difficult to get any pollen from the SA SS tersch in the past. I was successful this year but could not manage it the last couple of years before that. I got a very tiny amount to fall off into a glass as pollen "dust" that I applied to flowers on other plants later on, and I also had success ripping off some SA SS anthers and rubbing them directly onto the stigma of a scop flower that was open on the same night as the SA SS flower was. (no worries about other things possibly pollinating it as I cover the flowers up with netting bags before and after pollination).

I just wanted to do an update on this cross and since there are already other pics in here I figured it was the best place to put it...... This might be my last update as I finally re-potted it last night, (so it'll probably die on me now!! haha! ) If I had more than 1 seedling still alive I would have grafted it, but since this is the only one I didn't want to risk it just yet. It's definitely starting to look a bit monstrose and weird. After potting up

Hi Spooge. No, I've been growing this plant for a few years now and I didn't get it from there, it's just proven difficult to get it to hybridize until my small successes this year. This one came from an old house that had some cactuses and the garden was being demolished. Although I do think the plant I got was most likely grown from a cutting, so it did have to come from some other plant originally.......

zed240's 2016 big trichocereus seed competition giveaway!! It's time for me to resign myself to the fact that I'm most likely not going to get around to cleaning all of my trichocereus hybrid seeds from last season and just distribute some of what I have ready to go now. So I'm doing a bit of a give-away, open to SAB members from anywhere in the world. It'd be nice if people only entered the give-away if they will sow all/most of the crosses and are prepared to post the odd picture of them as they grow up. So there's ONE grand prize pack, and three other packs up for grabs, so 4 packs all up. Entry is easy, just post in this thread with the next sequential number, I'm number 1, so the next person to post is number 2, and so on. Winners are chosen by a random number generator. You must also post a cool picture, or joke, funny story or something random in your post to be eligible for a prize. Entries will be accepted until Sunday 04/09/2016 at 5pm Australian Central time Seeds that are in the MASTER PACK GRAND PRIZE!! - (one pack of each cross, most packs have 80-120 seeds in them) Short spined terscheckii (SA clone) X Scopulicola scopulicola X anakie (peruvianus) Gawler peru X scopulicola Norma (peruvianus) X Anakie (peruvianus) Tipz macrogonus X scopulicola Gawler peru X Norma (peruvianus) Chilensis (James) X Ech. Seminudus scopulicolaX Norma (peruvianus) Super Pedro X Norma (peruvianus) Norma (peruvianus) X Hahn pachanoi Hahn pachanoi X scopulicola scopulicolaX Hahn pachanoi Fields pachanoi X Norma (peruvianus) Tipz macro X Norma (peruvianus) (these are from last years hybrids) Yowie X Psycho0 Psycho0 X Yowie Yowie X BBs Scop PC Pach X BBs Scop Yowie X PC Pach PC pach X Gawler peru Seeds that are in the 3 runners-up prizes include: scop X anakie (peruvianus) Gawler peru X scop Norma (peruvianus) X Anakie (peruvianus) Tipz macrogonus X scop Gawler peru X Norma (peruvianus) Scop X Norma (peruvianus) Super Pedro X Norma (peruvianus) Norma (peruvianus) X Hahn pach Hahn pach X scop scop X Hahn pach Fields pachanoi X Norma (peruvianus) Tipz macro X Norma (these are from last years hybrids) Yowie X BBs Scop PC Pach X BBs Scop Yowie X PC Pach PC pach X Gawler peru And here are pictures of pretty much all the plants involved in the seed creation. (clone names are on each pic) Have at it SABers!

Sorry guys, with that particular cross I had very few germinate out of 2 separate sowings totaling about 70 seeds. I now have one left which basically hasn't grown at all in a bit under a year. I only ever gifted this particular cross to people and as soon as I realised how bad the germ rate was I told people before they got them and/or wrote on the seed bags that it had poor germ rates. But it's a bit sad, I hoped for a lot more too. Here's a sad pic of my lone plant in all it's glory. I do still have a few of this type left if anyone wants to try again just in case, probably best to have pere at the ready in case you get anything to pop. So PM me if you're keen to try. I have much higher hopes for these 2 chilensis crosses that just ripened this year. Different mother, which is a much more attractive and fat chilly in my opinion too. X Schick pink - X scop - Schick pink doing special things

Wow, I count myself very lucky to have gotten a small piece of that other short spined plant with more robust spination then, especially if you guys took four 1m tips from it. I'll have to try crossing it with the "SA SS tersch" when it flowers, as it this one has just started to push out some fuzz. That would make for a very cool cross. I certainly wouldn't be surprised either if the owner was mistaken and they are genetically different plants. It does look very different in some respects. Maybe from the same seed batch though?? The areoles are very similarly spaced and both plants also have very oval shaped areoles. I also have some hybrids of the SA SS going from last year in 10cm pots. SA SS tersch X Scop - SA SS Tersch X Super Pedro, which are a bit more advanced than the scop cross above -

I won't go into this one too much as it's off topic for this thread. But that plant does get a lot fatter than the piece of it I own. I have been to the ABG and checked out their werd a number of times, and I'm also lucky enough to own an ABG werd clone as I got it from an employee of the gardens a couple of years ago. And even my thin "tersch" is fatter than the ABG werd. If my tersch is a werd that'd be cool, but if it does line up with werd, (isn't that an invalid name anyway?), it's certainly one of the fatter ones. Also, I digress even further, but ABG werd has to actually be a taquimbalensis or tacaquirensis. I can also be headstrong with IDs, but I am certainly not unwilling to be more informed or to change my mind/labels if presented with better evidence for something. Sorry for being off topic for this thread, I shouldn't have posted that picture with the other plant in it! Apologies! And yes, it'll be really interesting to see what the SA SS tersch plants do in other peoples collections. Also very much looking forward to what hybrids with it in their parentage look like.

The story I got was the ones you've called "tip 1" and "tip 2", Spooge, which have the more robust spines, were cuttings planted by the current owner and were taken directly off of the SA SS tersch mother plant which is nearby. It's strange that they have larger and thicker spines than the mother plant displays, maybe it's due to more sun and less water in that particular spot, if they really are the same clone as the owners comments suggest they are.

Yeah, I think the timeline of 80 years sits pretty well with when Fields brought in his plants here from South America too, so maybe there's some connection there, (helps with the possible validus link??), as I can't imagine there were heaps and heaps of people in Australia importing cactuses back in the 30's. It's a pity the current owner and son of the lady who planted them doesn't know more about where they came from. But he is definitely not a passionate cactus man himself so it's not altogether surprising. It's pretty much just a good thing he never removed the plants from his property so we can enjoy them now. In regards to the tersch cut sitting next to my SA SS I posted at the very end of my reply above, I'm pretty sure it's a proper terscheckii, my cut is just a very thin one from a large plant that was cut and re-grew. I've seen the fatter cuts of the same clone in person as well as the stump and they are definitely a good amount fatter than mine and the SA SS. Think of it like this, other plants that are large and then chopped down and moved result in new growth that's thinner until they get established again. Pretty sure that's all the issue is with my thinner cut. I have pics of a friends plant that is the same clone, but I won't post it as the images are his. Maybe if we're super lucky someone else may have noticed plants that look similar on their travels to South America and they'll chime in here too. This seems like the place to put pics of the plant, so I'll put a few up. In flower A pup I split in half and grafted to 2 pieces of PC. (base grafted upside down) Older pics - - Newer pics And a pic of a big one that I stumbled across.

From what I can see it doesn't appear to have as thick or robust spines as cuzco/knuth usually has. The centrals seem shorter, (which I know can be environmental), and the swollen spine bases appear to be absent from what I can see in these pics. You can zoom in on the pics a bit as they're a good size, but yes, clearer pics of the older growth would be good to see. It also doesn't look like it gets the usual double long centrals (one pointing up and one pointing down), that often appear on cuzco and knuthianus. Also the thin, needle like appearance and colour of the spines, with coloured spines appearing down on older growth too, remind me less of pure cuzco/knuth types.

It's a gorgeous, gorgeous plant. I would love to know more about what it's lineage might be also. Evil Genius has said pretty recently that he thinks it fits with the name Validus. I got mine with the name SA SS tersch on it from the eBay seller. I did get to chat to someone who visited the mother plant in SA, and he said the owner mentioned the plant was put on the property by his mother 80 years ago, which would place the timeline for it being planted in SA at about 1935. He said the owder couldn't tell him anything else about where it came from or if his mother grew it from seed or cutting. Also, these pics were on Trouts website and are also from Chiclayo, I saw them quite some time ago in my many searches of the net for cactus related things. They always stuck with me as they're pretty different looking cuts. Also, great news, I have had a few flowers on my SA SS tersch this year so will have a bunch of hybrids with it in the parentage in the next 1-2 months as they ripen up and I clean the seeds. Here it is to the right of a thin-ish cutting from a "normal" tersch.

I have to disagree that saying "peruvianus X knuthianus" with no qualifier is really accepted as being a way to describe how a plant looks with no actual intention to convey the parentage. If you're trying to say the plant looks similar to another species but isn't quite right, that's what the "aff." is supposed to do. Or of course just say something like "looks like a peru X knuth to me", which implies it's not known and an opinion. I saw the discussions about it's parentage, and I agreed with other commenters (in my mind) at the time, that it has a strong knuthianus vibe, but not as many of the cuzco-like features a full on knuthianus would show. So it is an interesting one. I do get how it may come across as me having a go at Ambient, that's not really the case as it's hard to convey the nuances of in-person speech and inflection in text. And it really is a very nice plant, I just don't think it's quite right to say it's a particular hybrid. So hopefully no one's been insulted and maybe even learned some stuff too. Happy cactusing!