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  7. Posted · Edited by chilli

    Sorry chilli but those statistics you posted on page one of this thread don't show me that we live longer at all. I can't help myself but I have a bit of an issue with life expectancy statistics. I have a book somewhere written by a doctor (I can't remember what it is, it's buried in a mountain of books somewhere) The issue with life expectancy statistics is that they give a false impression that we are living longer when the truth is that we actually dying much younger than people from third world countries (once those people get past about age 10). The statistics are a gross misrepresentation of child mortality rates affecting the average age of death of any group of people. The statistics in chilli's chart can be used prove this. If I take a group of 100 people and they all live to an age of 70 then the average lifespan for that group is 70 years old. But if I take another group of 100 people and 40% of them die at less than 5 years old then average lifespan that group is dramatically lowered. If the sixty percent that actually survive past childhood they are likely to live much longer than westerners or people from developed countries. So if the second group had 40% of them die at age four and the rest of them were to live to 100 then the average lifespan would only be 64 years old. (I haven't had my coffee yet so I could be off the mark, maybe someone like CBL could crunch some numbers and prove/disprove this, mental arithmetic isn't one of my strong points) When they die before 1 year old it has an even more dramatic effect on average lifespans. All those statistics show me is that we are a lot better at preventing childhood mortality and if you survive past childhood you are much more likely to live to an old age in a third world country. In my book this referred to as the doctor effect.

    Yes, there is a difference between average life expectancy from birth and average life span calculated from a certain age. This is not controversial, but as you say is a common source of confusion.

    Taking all this into account, the average person living in the 'developed' world still has dramatically increased life expectancy and life span compared to 'third world' nations and to any other period in history.

  9. Posted · Edited by chilli

    It's canon, not cannon: just a typo I am sure (there are a few others in there) but an important difference.

    Could you explain a little more about how you think entheogen use should be seen as a 'canon of conduct'?

    Has this term been interpreted further in any legal precedents?

    Psylo, wouldn't glucose kind of undermine the whole idea of a hunger fast? fasting is easy with sugar

  13. Posted

    haha Dave

    your girlfriend needs to do something if she isn't happy with it. if she won't she needs to work on asserting herself. She is enabling her friend who is enabling your friend, and you are enabling your gf by having her at your place. :) just all squash into her place until she gets sick of it and says something lol

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  14. Posted · Edited by chilli

    tbh I skimmed the post when I was inebriated and saw 'children consent' etc and thought of the positive aspects of letting kids have a say in their own mental health treatment, that is all I was saying and NOT the forced anything of anything. be nice to kids.

    This kind of legislation can often sound weird on paper but are actually only provisions for extreme situations where there is some kid who wants a sex change or some kid doing insane and deadly stuff. So anyway, I thought this was that kind of scenario because clearly in Australia there is no campaign of mass extermination like the Nazis did (ok, yet.)

    But as sensationalist as the articles are, I am surprised at how logically one could arrive at their interpretations from reading the draft bill. There is some pretty weird stuff in there that I am having trouble conceiving of applying to any kind of situation, so it is confusing.

    tl;dr I was fucked up alright? wtf cuz that stuff is weird!

  17. Posted · Edited by chilli

    Oh really chilli, do you have any link that supports that claim? Obviously I'm refering to post world war 2 since we have all had access to modern sewage systems and clean water.

     

    but the sewage and clean water are a result of learning about germs and hygiene, so it would be silly to not compare before and after. That is central to point I am making, it is not like it is controversial whether knowledge of germs and hygiene has drastically reduced the occurrence and severity of all kinds of illness. Here are some figures for Australia:

    Over the last century, Australia's health indicators have shown huge improvements:

    • Death rates from infectious disease have fallen 96%

       

    • Death rates from respiratory disease have fallen 80%

       

    • Death rates for children 0-4 have fallen 95%

       

    • Life expectancy has increased by over 25 years for women, and nearly 24 years for men.

       

     

    (Source 1)

    Sadly, the statistics do not show similar improvement among Indigenous Australians, whose life expectancy is similar to that of Australians a century ago.

    Many developing nations also have much lower life expectancies and higher death rates than in Australia today. Table 1 shows the stark difference in life expectancy and mortality rates between Australia and the African Region (as defined by the World Health Organisation) in 2007.

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    Table 1: Key population health indicators for Australia and WHO African region in 2007. Mortality rates are expressed per 1000 live births.(Source 2)

    In the African region it is infectious diseases that account for the vast majority - 80% in 2004 - of “years of life lost” (which factors in the age at which deaths occur). Prevalent infectious diseases in Africa include tuberculosis, cholera, measles, leprosy, meningitis, whooping cough and HIV/AIDS.

    In Australia, infectious disease deaths have decreased dramatically over the last century. In 2000 infectious disease caused only 18 deaths/100,000 population, compared with 513 deaths/100,000 in 1907. Deaths from respiratory diseases including flu and pneumonia have also declined significantly over the same timeframe.

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    Figure 1: Causes of death in Australia in 1907 and 2000. (Source 3)

    Figures 2 and 3 confirm this decline of infectious and respiratory disease deaths for children 0-4 years old and across all ages, respectively.

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    Figure 2: Trends in selected causes of death for children 0-4 in Australia over the last century. (Ref 3)

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    Figure 3: Trends in selected causes of death for all persons in Australia over the last century. (Ref 3)

    Additional graphs suggesting that vaccination alone cannot be responsible for this decline in Australian mortality can be viewed at www.whale.to/vaccine/graphs2. A similar picture for overseas is illustrated by the graphs at www.whale.to/a/graphs, and from pages 20 to 26 of “Against Disease: The Impact of Hygiene and Cleanliness on Health”. (Ref 4)

    Source 1: AIHW 2005 “Mortality over the twentieth century in Australia: Trends and patterns in major causes of death. Mortality Surveillance Series no. 4

    Source 2: World Health Statistics, WHO 2009

    Source 3: Figure 1 compiled using figures from AIHW 2005 “Mortality over the twentieth century in Australia: Trends and patterns in major causes of death. Mortality Surveillance Series no. 4. Canberra: AIHW; Figures 2 and 3 compiled from AIHW General Record of Incidence of Mortality (GRIM) Statistics data (www.aihw.gov.au)

    Source 4: Aiello, A. E., Larson, E. L., Sedlak, R. 2007, "Against Disease: The Impact of Hygiene and Cleanliness on Health", The Soap and Detergent Association, www.againstdisease.com

     

    Source: http://www.hygieneforhealth.org.au/graphs_and_statistics.php

    Here’s a link to a news story of a study that supports my claim of a less sterile enviroment being good for your immune system, which I found in less than 10 seconds. There’s hundreds more though.

    http://abcnews.go.co...d=116852&page=1

     

    well I didn't really mean to deny that, I mean I have always assumed that was true so I don't really need convincing. Doesn't really alter the fact that an awareness of germs and hygiene has made a lot of people a lot less sick in the last century, as the figures above show.

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  19. Posted

    yeah keep it alight for each bowl, then fold the paper tab over to put out the wick. there is a bit of a knack to it at first with tilting the wick for bigger/smaller flame & knowing how big you want the flame to be, just like there is a bit of a learning curve for the VG with getting the right vaping temp + air speed; but once you get the hang of it, the combination works amazingly well.

     

    So I'm guessing I would get it from headshops or online? Where do you get it?

  21. Posted

    I think its people being so paranoid about germs and slightly old food that makes us get so sick these days. Ya gotta give your immune system a work out every once in a while, it keeps it nice and strong.

     

    Actually, the opposite is true. It is the modern awareness of germs and hygeine that has resulted in people getting a lot less sick than they used to.

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    Did any of you ever stop to think that these laws actually may be put in place to protect children's rights? This gives childrebn rights that their parents might otherwise have vetoed. Not all parents make the best decision on behalf of their children ya know.

    people are so quick to jump the gun and compare everything to Nazi Germany.. yeah right look where you live it just ain't the same, sorry to detract from the histrionics.

  24. Posted

    Damn, I am having trouble finding out what can and cannot be sent to WA.

    I remember there was a thread a while ago but haven't had any luck finding it yet.. anyone know the one i mean?

    if I order seeds will it just not allow the order if they aren't allowed in WA or do I need to figure it out and risk getting the fee or whatever?

  25. Posted · Edited by chilli

    I haven't buried drugs for gnome powers to get in them, but I am in the process of digging up a pet rat that was buried in a pine box in a plant pot for the last 10 years, I wonder what she will look like? I hope it's not too disgusting, I want to keep the skull if I can. Or will it be rotted away beyond recognition?

    Okay that was seriously off topic, sorry.

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