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  1. I didn't say "I question it", I said it was "incomplete"...don't look for something that isn't there. :P

     

    You said 'You are not talking about all biologists, but only the biologists that conform to mainstream. Question mainstream academia & see where you end up...with no career.'

    You seemed to be implying that biologists who propound evolution are not doing so because that theory is best supported by the evidence, but because they slavishly agree with whatever is 'mainstream' and that questioning was not allowed because of career considerations.

    Science thrives on questioning. How did the mainstream become mainstream? Because of evidence.

    I am not 'looking for something,' just asking questions based on your extremely controversial claims, and wsaying that if you question the integrity of the majority of biologists as you have done here, and find their theories incompatible with the evidence in some way, then please at least give a little explanation of what you mean by this and some evidence to support it.

    Anything else is just pissing in the wind.


  2. The reason it is mainstream is because that is what all biologists (with the exception of a tiny minority of religious folk) have shown to be true.

    Science is not a closed book, and theories are not complete: any scientist would agree with this.

    Do you really question the theory of evolution? What alternative theory would you propose?


  3. I think if there was a person called jesus of Galilee & he was alive today, he wouldn't care if u believed in his existence or not. All he would care about is whether or not u got his message.

     

    It's interesting because one of the few sayings of Jesus that the Jesus Seminar does consider probably authentic is the claim that one must give up everything and hate their own family and life to follow him, so he did kind of have tickets on himself. :P


  4. I was wondering about this, qualia.

    Usually, the burden of proof is upon the one making a claim, so looking at it one way it could be argued that the onus to offer proof is only on those saying Jesus did exist.

    However, in an area like this where there is already an established position by thge majority of scholars that he did exist, it seems fair to say that the burden of proof is on those who would make the claim that mainstream scholarship is wrong for whatever reasons.

    What do others think? Let me guess: the people I disagree with have the burden of proof. :P

    *edit SpaceCadet, what do you think of my response to your claim about giving away power?

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  5. And you know this because..?

    http://www.nofactzon...tephen-colbert/

     

    Fair enough, I had no idea he was a catholic. I still doubt very much whether his satire is intended to be taken seriously in any way, but it does cast it in a different light.

    Then you choose to give your power away to someone who professes to know.

    Remembering that mainstream academia is based not on actuality, but on consensus.

     

    So am I 'giving away my power' when I trust biologists to tell me about evolution? The consensus on evolution by biologists is a result of facts, not the other way around.

    One does have to be a bit more careful with the study of history, since it is not as scientifically based as biology, but still I value the learned opinions of those who have done far more research than me over the claims of nay sayers on the internet.

    This is not giving away my power, it is learning to trust sources based on their history, integrity and the quality of the evidence the present. I have no problem disagreeing with the consensus on Jesus, but would only do so after doing a lot more research of my own, which I simply don't have time or inclination for right now, so I trust the consensus of the relevant experts (generally excluding any highly religious scholars).

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  6. BentoSpawn, it is not just religious scholars, but also extremely liberal scholars and the vast majority of secular historians who consider the theory that Jesus did not exist to be unsound.

    The wikipedia page on the historicity of Jesus is a good place to get some source for further reading.

    There is a new book by Bart Ehrman: Did Jesus Exist? The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth which looks good, I am going to order it now.


  7. What do you mean by weight lifter? Training for strength, size or endurance all involve lifting weights. Some people's bodies are better suited to one kind or another, depending on ratio fo short twicth muscle fibers, but anyone can bulk up lifting weights the same way anyone can build endurance usuing weights. Different goals will be easier for different body types, but that doesn't mean they can't do something different.

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  8. SpaceCadet, Stephen Colbert is being satirical, and in no way does it suggest he really believes any of the stuff he is saying!

    chnt, you really cannot see how the existence or non-existence of someone who was arguably the greatest single influence on Western society matters?

    Elaine Pagels is cool. Check out books by Bart Ehrman and Karen Armstrong for more good stuff along similar lines.

    Jesus probably existed, but most of the stuff in the gospels attributed to him was put in his mouth by writers decades or centuries after he lived. Check out The Jesus Seminar.

    The idea that Jesus didn't really exist is not taken very seriously by the majority of mainstream liberal scholars, which is why there is not much contention.

    I have misgivings about whether there was an actual historical Jesus, but until I know more I am willing to trust the scholarly consensus. Much like I have things I don't understand about evolution, but I trust the experts knowledge over my own ignorance.

    For some great stuff on Jesus as myth, check out Robert Price, he is a fellow of the Jesus Seminar and even they consider his ideas pretty fringe! His books and ideas are somewhat rambling and incoherent, but this comes across really well in debates. There is a good debate with him and Gregory Boyd, and an even more fun one where he tears the shit out of this preacher who obviously didn't know what he was getting in for.


  9. low reps, heavy weights, keep increasing weights and push the end of each set to failure (and get a spot to push out one or two more)

    more protein than you strictly need in a bioavailable form (whey/casein is good)

    caffeine before workout, orange mid session, protein shake immediately after, then keep feeding muscles every few hours and get good sleep and rest

    work something like chest/triceps one day, back/biceps the next, legs/shoulders the next do that twice a week and one day off

    choose exercises that will hit your target body parts three or four times each session

    do multi-joint exercises: dips, bench press, squats etc.

    if you bulk up easily, string your workouts together with aerobic stuff to keep cut: bridges/planks or jumping squats etc between sets

    or if you tend to be lean and hard gainer, throw in some classic strong man exercises to keep the testosterone flowing and bulk up quicker

    you have to work hard in every session, have well-timed, properly balanced nutrition and lots of solid rest

    following a similar regime I put on 10kg of muscle in 6 months a couple of years back, and I am something of a hard gainer

    oh and get a goal in mind: Blane or something. look at lots of photos and imagine yourself getting like that, also keep records of workouts and take photos to monitor your progress

    *edit Your reps should be explosive and as fast as p[ossible (while still controlled) on the positive part of the rep, and slower on the negative rep.

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  10. I think before relationships should be considered you have to be happy with, in love with, yourself.

    Noone can

    Make you happy.

    I like the glass full and overflowing analogy.

    U have to be happy for your happiness to flow to others. If u can't care about yourself, u really have nothing to offer.

     

    Sounds like someone badly needs a root.

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  11. But as you state the computer game character does have a purpose. It exists to entertain us. What then is our purpose?

    What if we disregard our own personal existential dilemma for a moment, and ask what is the purpose of life generally? Why did animate, metabolising lifeforms emerge from the static, inanimate universe?

     

    I lightheartedly outlined a number of possible purposes. You seem to want some kind of definite answer, but there isn't one. How do you propose we disregard our own existence and separate it from the purpose of life generally?

    Asking 'what is the purpose of life' assumes that there is one, but maybe it really is all absurd and meaningless. Or maybe it's a cosmic joke, or a dream, or a play, or a game. Maybe there's angels cheering you on, maybe God hates you.. maybe no one cares. Maybe you matter, or maybe you're just matter. It's all maybe, baby.

    I don't know what the ultimate purpose of life is because I don't even know if there is one, and I'm pretty certain no one else does either.

    Why are you asking?

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  12. Absurdity. No meaning. Meaning we make. Fun. Suffering. Waking up. Dreaming. Cosmic coming of age.

    Don't give me that 'if there's no meaning to life why not kill yourself' shit. If there is no meaning then killing yourself is just as meaningless as continuing to live.

    Asking this question is like the character in a video game asking 'what is the meaning of all of this?' You are an entertaining fiction for teenage gods. You are clothing that spirits dress up in to impress their friends. You are a special mix of chemicals created by a bored alien looking for the perfect high. People pets, avatars, 3D cross sections of 4D reality.

    Just seek truth and enjoy the ride.

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  13. No one said anything about removing the shoutbox Amz, what I am suggesting is also embedding the lab.

    This way people can have privacy and an intimate and smooth chat experience in the lab, or more casual banter/random comments in the shoutbox, which is what it is designed for.

    simple really, and WIN/WIN


  14. It happens regularly for me, and I would say to most of the people who use the chat regularly.

    Torsten, what you think is an unlikely scenario is actually standard in chat rooms, at least for those of us who type faster than 12 words per minute (I thought I was a slow typer!)

    It is common in chat rooms including the corroboree to have a lot of short, snappy remarks, responses and clarifications: a very different dynamic to the forums generally.

    The flood control and slow updating takes away from this and makes the experience quite frustrating at times, especially when compared to the intimacy and flow of 'the lab'.

    I think the best solution is to embed the lab or another IRC chat room into the forums.

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