mindperformer
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thanks
4 all great people of this forum
now I finally found time for posting again
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the scent of some psychoactive plants:
Pukatea (Laurelia novae-zelandiae)- leaves from New Zealand:
Organoleptics of the absolute from the leaves-tincture (descending):
green-leaves - sweet - woody - waxy - fresh-citrus, basenote: sweet - floral (chamomile) - musty
Pituri (Duboisia hopwoodii)- leaves from Australia:
Organoleptics of the tincture from the dry leaves (descending):
pungent - tobacco - hay - dry - waxy - sweet with a nuance of pandanus-leaves in the basenote
Brandy-Bottle - waterlily (Nuphar lutea)- flower from Austria:
Organoleptics of the tincture from the fresh flowers (descending):
waxy-creamy-sweet with the following accents: fruity-fermented - honey-chamomile
White / Mexican Water Lily (Nymphaea ampla)- flowers:
Organoleptics of the absolute from the tincture of the dry flowers (descending):
sweet (caramell) - creamy - balsamic - fruity (strawberry) - soapy
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you're also a natural perfumer?
I will take a look at your thread...
I was offline a long time until now
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last year planthelper wrote about his real Ambergris,
now my research in the scent-area is very intense, I made an ocean of extracts, also from many psychoactive plants and the Ambergris was one of the last famous things I didn't have in my collection, now this changed.
this is very old Ambergris (over 10 years) from South Africa:
x24 (microscope):
My valuation of the Ambergris-tincture:
not very strong because of the high age, but much better in quality than young Ambergris,
Organoleptics (descending strength):
fresh ocean-air – stone-beach-sand – sweet-soft (like old paper) – powdery – indolic-faecal (like DMT)
By the way: Ambergris is not Amber!
...but amber has its own scent if it is powdered, roasted and tinctured.
a piece of Amber from the Dominican Republic:
x24 (microscope):
My valuation of the tincture (in 80% pure food-grade grain-alcohol)
from the roasted Amber (descending strength):
Headnote: denatured alcohol – resiny – smoky-waxy (lit candle)
Heartnote: Citrus – resiny
Basenote: dry – Labdanum – sweet – citrus
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thanks, by the way, we had a record-heat here in Austria and the first time over 40°C
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the treatment- tips are very useful, the acid should denaturate the protein- components of the toxin
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@solomon: right, the person who died, fell into a patch. Dogs do have a quite different metabolism, as I remember Theobromine (cocoa) and onions should be avoided by dogs because they are toxic, so other things, toxic for humans, maybe nontoxic for them.
Really interesting your mention of the mental effects.
@Leaves: absolutely, the toxin of Urtica ferox is still unstudied- maybe an oral intake could cause psychoactive effects because most often the really dangerous components are not taken up in the stomach, only if applied intravenously from the stinging hairs.
Nettles also contain Histamine.
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absolutely, we had nearly no rain for one month, and between 25 and 39°C here in Austria, the Toromiro is in a greenhouse with 90% humidity and temperature-controlled heatmat which turns off at 27°C. But now is also warmer inside the greenhouse because of the high summer-temperatures outside (still 15 hours sun/day).
many fruits and flowers here... ;-)
the colas look good, but they grow very slow
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my plant in flower:
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I'm absolutely impressed by your diverse Cathas...
a few weeks ago, standing in the Viennese subway, I saw a yemenite with a big bundle fresh leafs...
do you know this interesting picture:
So I think we must collect the flowers, or simply eat them
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fascinating, I never heard of this before.
Epipactis helleborine intoxicates wasps with oxycodone, alcohol and indoles in its nectar.
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The Toromiro has grown up:
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The Māori planted this tree nettles in front of their dugouts as defense against enemies.
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Ongaonga - Urtica ferox
Of course there is a debate about whether this New Zealand-plant is the most dangerous or the Australian Dendrocnide moroides, anyway this plant was listed as such in the guiness book of records and I think so too...
Apart from allergies it can be said that the toxin of the Ongaonga (Urtica ferox), a nettle endemic to Aotearoa (New Zealand), can cause the most irreversible (polyneuropathy) and most painful injuries. The pain lasts for 3 days! A human death was also recorded.
I'm waiting for germination of the seeds, which is complicated, then I will make a cage for it, so that nobody gets hurt.
Today I put the seeds under the microscope and I think they can be called the most dangerous seeds *g*, as they also have small stinging hairs filled with toxin:
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Actually I used Triacontanol, extracted from Medicago sativa (Alfalfa or lucerne) for a foliar spray. Medicago sativa contains Triacontanol in the waxy coating.
It was also found in green tea.
This seller of good but alkaline earthworm-potting soil: http://www.grand.at/ feeds the earthworms with Medicago sativa
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very interesting, especially the Ajmalicine- enhancement in Catharanthus
...the czech company Symbiom, from which I use the mycorrhiza product "Symbivit" successfully, mentions this bacteria in a research-project with maize (scroll down to Micromaize): http://www.symbiom.cz/en/research_projects
the bacteria Azospirillum brasilense also acts symbiotic with mycorrhiza-fungi like Glomus fasciculatum (AMF):
http://www.bashanfoundation.org/horst/horstchickpea.pdf -
absolutely, the places where I saw it in the Austrian mountains (especially the Wechsel) are also acidic but do have good drainage (not compact peat but rather loose mossy soil), so I prefer peat with drainage-material like sphagnum moss and kanuma for all Ericaceae including Vaccinium- species
the tiny (European) Northern Cranberry (Vaccinium oxycoccos) thrives well in sphagnum moss with 1/3 peat:
and it made many new tiny twigs:
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i see, so the high bush varieties are more adapted to warmer climate, I didn't know this
I always make liqueur from some berries I collected in the forest to conserve the wonderful taste of wild blue-, bil-, straw- and other berries
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the chilling may be the reason why the wild blueberry (Vaccinium myrtillus) is found on mountains in some few tropical locations but mostly in peat-lowlands and the mountains of the North. They can also distribute vegetatively.
Distribution of Vaccinium myrtillus:
http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20m?kind=Vaccinium+myrtillus
waterboy, you grow Vaccinium corymbosum cultivars with the bigger berries?
There are some interesting rare polynesian Vaccinium cereum varieties:
http://www.polynesien.minks-lang.de/a.pol.deutsch/pol.arten.v/vaccinium.cereum.html
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you need a sour peat-soil and water only with rainwater because a too calcareous water will kill it over time.
There are some tropical blueberry-species, endemic only on eastern polynesian islands like Vaccinium cereum (from Rarotonga to the Marquesas)
my blueberry (upper half, V. myrtillus) and bilberry (Vaccinium uliginosum) in the garden:
Northern cranberry (Vaccinium oxycoccos) and cowberry (Vaccinium vitis-idea):
Vaccinium macrocarpon (cranberry) and american wintergreen (Gaultheria procumbens):
Blueberries in the very northern part of Finland:
flowering cowberry (Vaccinium vitis-idea) in the Engadin, Switzerland:
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absolutely, false awakening is horrible, I had it in in the lucid dreams of belladonna-fruits a long time ago
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maybe we should have a bath in molten cheese and drink it, here in Austria we have many wonderful cheese from the mountains
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My plants are adapted to low humidity in front of the window. Here in winter we only have 40-50% humidity indoors,
I never put them in the greenhouse.
The leaves are indeed typical big rainforest- type, but they are also very tough. In the habitat the trees can also survive in a more savanna-like environment in Western Africa.
The seeds are only viable when they are fresh and wet, so keep them in sphagnum moss.
mostly they are whitish-pink and turn green when germinatig
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Psychoactive and other botanical PERFUMEs
in Ethnobotany
Posted · Edited by mindperformer
Taique (Desfontainia spinosa)- leaves:
Organoleptics of the tincture from the dry leaves (descending):
sweet - fruity (Davana) - tea - green-cucumber-fresh - waxy - herbal and a pungent nuance, especially when touching with the nose
Coca (Erythroxylum coca var. coca)- woody stems:
Organoleptics of the tincture from the woody stems (descending):
wintergreen (methylsalicylate) - sweet-phenolic (salicylic acid) - balsamic - medicinal - woody - dry - stone
Dwarf Breedseed Poppy (Papaver setigerum)- leaves:
Organoleptics of the absolute of the tincture from the dry leaves (descending):
sweet (honey) - fruity (lychee,plum) - floral (rose) - herbal - dry - tobacco basenote: herbal - tobacco - earthy
Iboga (Tabernanthe iboga)- rootbark:
Organoleptics of the tincture from a 16,5x -multisolvent-extract from the rootbark:
indolic (but with a much less pronounced faecal nuance) - white-floral (jasmine) at equal strength
with the following nuances (descending): phenolic (plastic) - fresh (Methylsalicylate)
...on the contraty to DMT, the tincture of the iboga-extract didn't smell musty and very less faecal.
the indolic-phenolic scent highly possible stems from degradation products of the ibogaine-like alkaloids.
We can only smell molecules, which are not too big, Ibogaine is too big, cocaine and mescaline also.
There is the information in the internet, that there are no molecules with a scent, which exceed a molecular weight of 294 g/mol.
However, the number I found was 384,8 g/mol for decamethylpentasiloxane, a strange synthetic, as biggest molecule with an odor (mild).
Although there are other factors too which determine, if a molecule has an odor or not (relative volatility and our sensitivity), there are only a few molecules with a scent, bigger than 18 C-atoms,
and there are definitely no natural odorant molecules with more than 21 C-atoms.
The biggest natural odorant molecule is (10)-Gingerol from ginger with 350,5 g/mol and 21 C-atoms.
For checking the odor of a substance, search the name of it + http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/
there you find the odor under the "Organoleptics"
they have a great database, but not very much psychoactive plants