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ishmael, what you say is true, but my body feels better if i use salt.
stopping salt would be impossible for me.
thx for the hint, using potassium chloride instead.
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On 05/11/2022 at 7:38 PM, oncewhywechange said:
No booze or cigs.
On 06/11/2022 at 9:00 AM, fyzygy said:i don't smoke anymore, and had stopped drinking, and maybe even my fatty liver went away (now it's back)
the more vegie thing is something i have to do anyway as well, because of diverticulitis disease.
i eat lot's of rice, and cook everything from scratch, but haven't learned yet to cook those yummy all vegie meals.
it's a matter of changing your live stile, which is often not that easy.
it's funny how many vegies and fruits on the list, are vegies which i crave and like a lot.
i believe that the bp pills made it harder or next to impossible to excersise, so it was counter productive.
i got this head ache/ dizzy head since more than 3 months, (with arnolds accent, it's not a tumor) which i though came from maximum dose of indosyl.
i haven take indosyl for two weeks now, head ache a bit better, muscles work better, circulation to extremities better, less cough...
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it's a very comman plant, and often sold in nurseries.
i seem not to like ssri type pills and even sceletium,
but i might ad that sceletium could maybe be a hallucigenic in close to pure form, and very euphoric.
but maybe the smoke apperatus was contaminated.
fermenting this material is fun, herbalistic often contains woody parts, which than ge turned into powder.
i leave the material to ferment (in the sun in a closed container) and once it's mushy, run the fingernails of thump and pointer along the stems, and as such remove the green parts (leaves and soft bark), but leave the wooden core behind.
for a/b you need chloroform....
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it is a serious condition, i tried 4 or 5 different pills, including mini press.
they all made me very sick, and i could not drive or walk well.
coversyl had the least side effects, but than as well did not seem to help, to lower my bp, i remeber a reading of 187/??? dyastolic i don't remeber maybe 112...
my muscles turned weak, my body was more sensitive to the heat, and the blood did not go to my extremities.
i as well got a hazy head with mild head ache for 3 months, and thought it's the coversyl. doc diagreed, any way i'm of the indosyl now, and had two bp readings one 126/100 and 142/???
so it did not get worse so far....
managed yesterday again to go on a field trip, which meant lots of walking.
another thing which is again better are the papilations, my heart doesnt pump as loud as it did...
there is the chance that symptoms got mixed up, but today is only the 3 day, i feel close to normal again, and the head aches ad\nd dizzy head i had for 3 mo0nths are subsiding.
most of my hypertension probably arises from anxiety, a thing doctors don't understand....
so far i try to meditate more.
celery everyday and garlic.
and i will use other herbal supplements.
that coversyl, took all the strengh i had left in my body away.
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i hope some of you manage to find old posts regarding this subject.
even poppy of flanders contains alkaloids, and so does californian poppy....
i posted once a topic called home milking of poppies, meaning cut the stems, and lance them at home out of sight from, preying eyes.
emerging the stems into hot water helps.
even in the gardening australia tv show, one can often see papaver somniferium, so as long you make it a gardening delight, you could be ok.
one a sight note, the northern terretory farmers wanted to grow poppy and the tassy people stopped them, crazy if you think not enough legal poppy is produced world wide.
i suggest to give, "illegal poppy growers" (say in afghanistan) the right to grow legal poppy!!
it's all a world conspiracy, haha.
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best title for a topic ever!
next title suggestion, sell vintage bike, now into sailing my windjammer.
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looking for cat's claw and rauwolfia.
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guys!
i got very high blood pressure, and have taken at least 5 different pills for this condition.
they all gave me bad side effects, with coversyl, the one with least side effects.
i am on maximum dose of idosyl, and it gives me bad side effects, dizzy head, muscle weakness, pale fingers, specialy in the heat, more sensitive to heat, slight swallen ankles...
as well they change the apperance of the pills and now i feel they are worse than before.
saw my doc about it dozens of times...
so i strted to research herbs:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3210006/
i ask for your input, as i know some of you practise tcm and ayurverdic (i'm dyslecic).
the list mentiones peganum harmala, so i gues caapii would be good as well.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/903860/
iam now looking sa well for uncaria rynchophylla cat's claw herb.
anybody got experience with bp reducing herbs?
i would still take the coversyl but want to reduce it back to halve what i take now.
i still had often hypertension even taking indosyl....
my dad had a stroke and the clot buster gave him a heart attack....
one of my mates aged 68, just had a stroke, active one day, the adult diaper the next day.
i want to avoid this, but the pills hamper my active life style.
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gomaos (spell) once told me maybe 15 years ago, that he germinated the seeds of his rifat clone.
i have inspected the seed pods of this tree, since years, and do remember some detail of some posts, regarding this subject.
i assume as followes:
the spheres which display, tiny "hollow spikes" emerging of the spherical seed capsule, are pollinated.
when the sphere is dried up, shrivel the sphere, and use a strong magnifying glass to inspect the "teardrop" shaped seeds.
some will be more swollen than others, they are the good seeds.
i sprikled many seeds on top of some seed raising potting mix, and use a humidety dome.
i report back with the proress.
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most so called "plant gurus" would say damping off is caused by soil pathogenes, and too much humidety.
so people sterilize soil and seeds, air the growing area, check for perfect light levels, and THE SEEDLINGS STILL DAMP OFF
.than there is the "plant hippy", he's using 3 times already recycled soil, and shows little thought, for what he is trying to achive.
and ALL SEEDLINGS STAY STRONG AND PROSPER!
.DISCLAMER:
actual outcome might vary, compared to this mentioned suggestion.
the author never grew recognita from seed.
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i am happy to donate, but don't want to fill out a questionare.
pm me with a postal, if you want a donation.
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i replied to all messages today!
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hi!
gardening is causing my chronic pain to get a bit worse, so i reduce my workload even more.
i want to sell 2/3 of my cacti collection, but can't upload pictures (last time i got an upload error and it never got fixed by the admins)
this is how it works:
i got lophs many years old, and some monsterous pedros, and some btrue blue pedro.
all parcels will be of similar configaration, say one very big loph, some medium and some smaller.
i let you know the sizes, and quanteties via privat messaging.
minnimum purchase is 200aud, plus postage.
send me a pm, if you are interressted, they will be cheap and of very good quality, and ready to be repotted.
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thx, for the excellent link, fyzygy!
this is exciting and opens up, a new door. at my locations, sally can be ok, for years, but if i get, hot (desert) westerly winds they die, of heat stress.
i think this wind and heat wave only comes in el ninjo years, but i'm not sure.
there are tropical locations above 400m around, in oz and they would be ideal...
as well, once sally seeds become available, we could try to induce mutations, but i forgot the name of the chemical.
idealy would be a climat controlled area, where the temps dont go over 30 deg or so...
as well, i want to mention that there are posts around, of growers in mexico, and there sally's are 3m monsters!
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just to fatten up this topic, allowe me to sidetrack, a lil, topic: "plants which get too big near structures or in a small yard".
please add to the list.
HBWR, Argyreia nervosa
CEBIL,Anadenanthera colubrina
KRATOM, Mitragyna speciosa
CAAPII, banisteriopsis caapii
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i'v never grown it, but have seen a few plants.
it's quite normal for them to almost look dead, and than once it had a good shower they jump back to life.
if it rained only a bit than the growth spurt will, just prematurly end.
i would not water the, plant over the dry spells, but if there was ample rain, water on top of the rain.
they are monsters, and have taken over large parts of north queensland, basicly a pest.....
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operation will take place after oct 3, no date has been yet set.
i will update the exact time, once it becomes available!
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sending good vibes to cristy.
will think of her when surgery takes place.
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hi, all!
a young woman, CRISTY, i know will undergo surgery, to remove a growth from close to her pituitary gland.
i hope many of us can send her good vibes!
i will post more info once available.
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very good info, if a colubrina gets to big and cut down, the roots ought not to get wasted....
there are only a few reports of peregrina, growing in oz, some people doubt it's peregrina.
it could be partly my own fault because, at times my dyslexia, make me mix up the two, haha.
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Climate or location:EARTH
we try to be strict here, and kindly ask members to fill out the climat field (you can still protect you anonymety, sorry im dyslexic), as it helps us to help you.
some members here refuse for good reason to give plant advice, if the climat field is filled out in a larconic way.
do help with good advice, a person needs to know more than the plant grows on earth....
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thx, alchemica!
adelaide is much cooler, and your plant looks lusher than mine, your input supports my, idea, this plants go into heat dormacy.
i will experiment with the leaves as well now.
i found this link, researching plant used to induce fermentation, i think you might like it, it inspired me to say, whay about withania kefir, or kiwi fruit to start fermentation? one lifetime is never enough...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4458060/
the list it gives, Leontopodium as a fermenting help, wau edelweiss, it helps to know latin names...
late edit:
only few people grow this plant currently, send me a pm if you want some seeds, but only if you will grow it!
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i can't obtain lab grade ethanol, most spirits are ~33% alco so i go for that, i would have tried stroh rum with 80%, but i learned 50/50 seems better.
i hope, non chemists are not put off by the sience talk, and those herbs mentioned are all legal to experiment with, and the process is very simple.
i hope many readers get inspired to, do there
1st extraction!!i add one more question, about withania. i have seen it cultivated in cold central europe and it grew in the outdoor fields, to a height of 2m. i never seen the roots of those plants.
i cultivated withania, around byron bay, and at my current location, both times the plant seemed to go into heat dormacy, and my current plants died down over summer and re shooted once it got cold. my qustion to people in vic or tas, 1, how tall does your withania get? 2, does it grow over summer where you live? 3, are there different strains around, which affect height of the withania, or are my plants stunned by the heat?
i only bio assayed the root i grew in around byron, and it was a small, struggling plant, but i boiled the root in water, and had good effects.
late edit:
i want to add a plant which we havent mentioned yet, a very, very good anxyolitic, Lagochillus inebrians!
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this is a fantastic thread!
i want to add, that i have a book, which is about kava, before the pharma companies stuffed this herb up (by not lisening to the pacific islanders, and than when they realised ther mistake, thru the baby out with the bathwater). than stupid ill adviced howard made it illegal....
waka grade kava is very expensive, if you get 1kg for 180aud it's cheap.
i go into more detail what according to my knowledge happend with kava. and it left a stain on kava, where still some health care proffessionals think, kava is bad for the liver and dangerous. the greedy pharma companies bought kava the islanders don't use, i mean above ground parts of the plant, and used this for ther kava boom.
the islander knew, above ground kava is not good to use, but the pharma companies found good ammount of bioactives in thos parts so they were happy.
only years later they conceeded that above ground kava, does contain as well, unwanted active substances. the same happend with pituri by the way....
i like this stroy because it tell us, "traditional use, knows sometimes more than, new studies with sience equipment"!!!
so kava is save and good, and this book i mentioned, earlier mentioned that kava was extracted with water and with alcohol, same a alchemica said.
now i don't understand some things as well as alchemica so i ask you to spoon feed me.
subject: withania root.
methode: dry root or use fresh wet root? first simmer/or boil in water, than take leftovers and extract in high proof alcohol. than combine extracts?
treating hypertension with herbs
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i guess i get the pottasium chloride at the health food shop, or pharmacy.
i hope, you did not get put back too much, by my laconic responce. i think your input has the potential to be the golden bullet, with this dillema.
so i go in more detail, i love salt, but cook all from scratch, and don't have take away junk food (they use heaps of salt).
i stopped the indosyl bpm, and fell "stronger again", what happend was, the indosyl made me so lethargic, and i had the feeling that eating "salty" made me overcome this lethargic sensation to some degree, crazy ahy?
i stopped the bpm maybe 3 weeks ago, and had my bp meassured twice, and it was lower than on the meds!
an active lifstyle with lot's of excercise is a good natural remedy against hbp, but those pills stopped me from doing that, a perfect example how western medicine, we only treat the syptoms, can be a bad idea.
mosy bpm were so bad i could not drive, walk proper or do my chores.
i hope to get on top of this now, before my risk of stroke even increases.
i thank you all for you input, i will try to source the potassiun chloride and the motherwort.
i think having an anxiety dissorder doesn't help, and i percive some sounds as threats... (my place got robbed and vandalised by the noisy punks at the close by basket ball court, selling meth).
the skaters are people i never had problems with.