[Growing Yopo (Anadenanthera peregrina)]

herbalistic know there stuff, if they say it's peregrina, than it is, but it's new to oz.

vilca is around since ages.

 

growing a fast growing big tree, in pots and shelter, will not work for long.

they are about 3 to 4 m tall when fruiting the first time, if kept in a pot, they are highly unlikely to ever set seeds.

 

the plant in the photo could be 2 weeks old only, it's the fastest growing seedling i ever grew, it will not like it to be kept in small spaces.

[Learning to make music]

i'm now 63, learned guitar since i was 14, making music is the single best thing which ever happend to me.

i'm lucky, to found again, a person to play with, he plays intuitive lead on the banjo, i play rhythem on my gypsy guitar.

 

 

[Looking For Brugmansia Cuttings Again]

the sanguinea is very frost hardy, surviving even in scotland and england very well. the yellow flower that looks like a sanguinea is as well very frost hardy, but i don't remeber it's name now, it's very rare, never seen it in oz.....

all the others are more sensitive to the cold.

[Kratom seeds in australia]

seeds are produced in oz, and i knew claims of them growing well. i can not confirm this.

[Growing Yopo (Anadenanthera peregrina)]

peregrina would be yopo, i never heard of it growing in oz.

vilca is very common, grows fast in a big tree. 

i seriously doubt, it can be grown successfully in a pot and get seeds.

vilca started producing seeds after 4 years or so, but it grew so big i had to cull it, it was too much work and took over too much space, and my place is big....

 

borers attacked the seed pods, so sometimes most pods did not produce.

if i were you, i would guerilla farm this tree.

[nucelar energy in oz, have a say]

nucelar energy has been in the news a lot lately, what is your opinon?

 

i am worried about two things, that storing nucelar waste safely has not been worked out yet, and that once, australia goe's nucelar, the rest of the world, will dump there nucelar waste, in oz, as oztralia is seen to, "have the right geologial features for this task".

 

germany is planing, to retire the atomic power generators, and we start with this flawed technology?

"dud" en, and other politicians, might have as well an other not voiced agenda, being that there own uranium share would go up, and money can be made by storing nucelar waste from all over the world in australia.

[psychotropic water kefir]

ok, big update!

 

a friend of mine did lend me two books about probiotic (fermented drinks) which inspired me greatly.

seems that some people use only sugar for the primary fermentation, and only add fruits (simmered down in a little water and sugar) at the botteling (second fermentation stage).

this would keep the granules much cleaner which could be a big advantage (fruit pulp is hard to seperate from the granules), but i still add fruit to the initial fermentation, as it produces a better brew.

 

my current batch had raspberries and a little sugar added at botteling stage. the book said the fruit sugars (fructose?) will produce the fizzyness of the drink and i agree. thats why i add fructose in form of ginger and citrus fruits to the first fermentation, already. maybe thesecond fermentation is enhanced, by already fruits beeing added at the first step.

i found out that the granules can be stored in the fridge (not freezer) once they have been cleaned, for a few months.

as well i had a bottle of second fermentation brew in the fridge for maybe 2-3 months and it was delicious, and a little psychotropic..

 

i have not yet experimented with ginger out of a jar, but reading suggested that water kefir granules don't like metal, and detergent residue.

 

what i observed, but never read about, is that water kefir seems to be able to keep fruits and ginger and galangel very fresh (it is conserved well) so maybe it's good to use the same ginger for several brews (i use ginger thinly sliced currently).

 

i still havent brewed by adding some of our "more beloved" ethono plants, but the fact, that the second fermented drink keeps very well, in the fridge for a long time, gives me hope it could work. in other words, i always thought the added organic would be in contact with the water kefir for a too short periode, to facilitate a transfer of active compounds.

 

my initial excitement, was brought on by the thought that, similar like "spit kava" the granules would help to extract compounds.

i would like to add kava or withania to a brew, would be nice if it would work. withania is quite heat stable so one could add this plant, in form of a simmered water decoction.

 

[Options For Mood Stabilzer]

one time i saw some footage of a rave in israel, and the young girl took a high dose of ssri's as a dance party drug.

i think, it's very important to talk to other people, with similar experiences, because like this we can learn and start to understand what might be happening.

 

i used to smoke a lot of weed, and when i took a break, the first 3 day's i took zyprexa. only a chance encounter with another human being, whilst being held up in a waiting room, made me realise that, zyprexa caused that suicidal feeling. never took zyprexa again, and never had to experience this "low".

drug trials are always flawed, because the tests are done by humans, with a certain mind set on hand.

it could be even quantum physics at play here...

[Options For Mood Stabilzer]

same here, i hope all of this helps, ishmael!

 

as well i want to point out, that this thread shows how complicated and not as straight forward as some docs, this issues can be.

you are lucky, your doctor is good, as many docs, just presrcibe ssri's, without even checking for contra indications with other meds.

ssri's have now lost a lot of there "shine" as doctors are starting to find out that, it's very difficult for some people to stop ssri's and nsri's.

ethno people disscused this many years ago, glad to see the "professionals" chatching up, hehehe.

 

sorry for the slight highjack of the thread, but i want to add my own experience, with one point.

one of my previous doctors said (after i said, some people find it hard to stop ssri's, THEY ARE ADDICTIVE) if i give you a substance, than it's not addiction!!!!

poor imbecil doctor, i wonder how many lives he destroyed, but "feels" he's done soooooo much good!

 

[M. Spec seeds]

they are very tiny, and hard to germinate. some traders seeds will not germinate.

there are old post's around wher people raised dozends of kratom seedling.

 

cuttings are a better source, to establish a plant....

[Options For Mood Stabilzer]

10 hours ago, Alchemist said:

Be very careful with 5HTP. I had to throw mine away yesterday.

i just add that i don't respond well to tryptophan either, makes me edgy, unwell.

i don't like ssri's either, in pills or the herb, but growing sceletium would be my choice for you.

capii lfts depression after one puff, but i don't know if it's leveling out highs.

topic starter you are experienced but naturaly all those suggestions have interactions with other drugs, which need to be avoided.

eating more fish can help at times.

[How Common Is It For A Cactus Seedling To Pup]

you would have to have a look, if it's real pup and connected with the mother plant. but maybe you don't want to remove the soil and have a look.

it's very common for seeds to germinate much later at the base of an earlier emerging seedling.

[Nangs: A guilty pleasure]

i saw a report on tv yesterday, regarding this subject.

i never used them much as it made my heart, pump loudly.....

 

it might have been said, but in case it hasen't, the problem is that with nangs you get no oxygen whils inhaling, whilst at the dentist you do.

i used it once in a clinical settting, in good ammounts it was awesome, still a nice memory.

[Pot without paranoia]

very interessting subject, the little i might add, is oils help to extract cannabis, and there are quite a few plants which are said to reduce anxiety and maybe depression by just smelling them,

gardenia comes to mind.

grapefruit juice is said to potentiate cannabis.

i believe some strains are more likely, to cause psychosis than others (even potent strains).

[whats that groin touching thing?]

On 06/05/2024 at 7:29 PM, Amazonian said:

Lol. I notice this in some people. I just thought they have an itch (or crabs) and need to scratch but try to be inconspicuous, like when you have an itchy bum or a wedgey?!  I think it’s sometimes better to just have a good scratch and get it over with. Being  obvious might be better than trying to be inconspicuous (and not really relieving the itch) rather than having someone think you are sending sex signal. Lol. 

your reply, reminds me a female friend of mine, i asked and she said it was an itch.

some people who did this, i knew for many years, so i don't think its an itch.

soldiers and ex soldiers seem to do it more and southern european...

[whats that groin touching thing?]

hi!

i noticed since quite a while, that some men, when they talk to me, touch there genitals very briefly. they do that repeatedly, and i sometimes thought, they want me to look where, they touched them selfe, but i never do. maybe thats why they repeat the process? i never asked any of them why they do it, or if they even aware of it. it could be something close to a tick.

some of them lived in my area, and when i met them, they always do the touching thing, which is slightly anoying. i sometimes thought is this a secret gay thing (i'm a bit a feminine male),

but i know some of them are certainly hetro.

 

has any of you noticed the same thing?

is any of you a groin toucher? can any body shed light to this phenonoma.

[Free cacti]

On 17/03/2024 at 7:32 AM, Ishmael Fleishman said:

 

Are you saying the cristata will turn into a single columnar cactus again?

ok, but i'm out of my depth a bit....

i know that colums lying around for years, on the inside of a window, will reduce there circumfrence and start to look like a seedling pedro.

i never left a cristate lying around for years without soil, so i don't know what will happen.

rejuvination is an important, propagation tool. many plants are an easy cutting, when they still young, but hard to strike, when a few years old.

so by repeatedly pruning, the plant may show, more juvenil growth, which than can be used for east probagation.

 

cacti, are easy to strike a cutting, even if they are mature, but turning a fat old cactus into a tiny cylinder, has advantages, if you want to start tissue culture, or send only a very small parcel.

 

i think to remember that monstrous growth, is a feature which is visable already, in the seedling stage....

so i think, it will not turn into a single columnar specimen.

the cristates show different patterns (turning from cristate to wax column to multi branched, back to cristate) some stay cristate all the life, i assume rejuvinating will not alter this pattern.

i will start the experiment, with one of my monstrous cacti, and tell you in a years time what happend!

[Free cacti]

On 29/02/2024 at 10:56 AM, Siggor said:

and be able to rejuvenate them. 

 

siggor that was very generous of you! 

i would say though, being able to make them, flourish again.

rejuvenating, means the cacti reverts back to  earlier growth patterns. something that happens always, when one leaves a bare section of a cacti, laying around for many months or years.

[Legalisation of kratom]

kratom use will certainly not ruin your life, there is a saying in malaysa, saying woman, marry a kratom chewer and not a pot smoker, the chewers are working, the pot smokers are lazy.

i predict a future when most psychotropic plants, will be legal again, because the sience will proof us sab'ers right.

people like john howard and his advisors, are uneducated, and made there decisions, not understanding the ethno community's knowledge.

 

a lot of doctors and psychiatrist are already on our side!

[Technique for chewing leaves (e.g. khat/salvia)]

ok, so more info...

in yemen people chew qat everyday, but there is a big difference in quality, and the strength (the amounts of alkaloids in the fresh leaves).

in yemen the best parts never reach the market, they get chewed eaten by the qat farmers themselves. it's called gizo bomu, or similar, and compromises of short small new shoots.

the strongest material is produced after a drought has ended, always watering, will not produce such strong qat.

of large leaves, further down the branches, you might need more than 100g, but young leaves close to the tips and the tips, are very potent, be carefull, i cant use it as it can give me hypertension. the leaves actually taste very nice, and are easy to chew, one quid might last you for halve an hour or hour.

the most active part, detoriates very fast, so fresh leaves are highly prized. extracting this compounds including the heat sensitive one and fast degrading one is easier than often reported, but close to a useless exercise, as this material degrades very fast as well, after a week or so. this material could be said to be better than ice.

it was legal in oz and got even imported legal, now it's illegal, but maybe still gets imported.

[Khat ID. Narrow or Planthelper?]

i think, it's a ph, it looks like it and watertrade has distributed original clones of this plant.

[psychotropic water kefir]

your replies, make me aware of many different, mechanism, which i did not know about, thank you.

although the process is very, very simple my outcomes vary to a large degree...

some brews, were so nice, i prefered them over my own, favorite beverage beer.

some turned into a bubbly jelly which, not as tasty as hoped.

 

one time i used dragon fruit as flavor, and the brew was tasty, but the seeds, took i while to remove from the granules.

as well, if you use a strainer, save the straining water, and decant carefully, and save all the baby granules, so you get more granules.

i am not certain, but the granules seem to have a certain life span, even with good care, so always look out for tiny granules.

 

i tried to put the, added fruts or ginger, tied into muslin cloth, to avoid contaminating the brew with seeds and flaky fiber, but that didn't work well for the brew.

the additatives, need to be loosly held in the water and agitated once in a while.

an other idea i had is to use the brew, as a dispenser for micro dosing.

next will be to use minced ginger, out of the jar, and see if the preservative are not harmfull to the brewing process.

[psychotropic water kefir]

some of my sceletium preparations, turned out to have a "cheesy" flavor, after just following the traditional preparation.

scelly would be on top of my list to add to water kefir.

it's a very easy straight forward operation, but the details i still have to work out.

as it's said to have been found, naturaly with opuntia fruits, i used dragon fruit for a brew, but the seeds were hard to remove from the granules.

so i will not do this again. putting the additavies (thinnly sliced ginger (or galangel) and lemon with skin, in a bag of muslin cloth produce a weak brew.

 

there are many things i still have to learn like how to dry the granules and than store them in the fridge, when one got tiered of having to brew every few days...

my instructions said, rinse granules, with a strainer with cold water (previously boiled water). but i noticed that this way, one throws a way young granules.

 

alchemica's input explains the mild head sensation, it's the bacteria it'selve and not the galangel mild properties.

drinking the beverage, seemed to have eased a bit my diverticuly disease pain.

i did throw out the ginger, but maybe it could be re used.

do make a brew with say withania, it could work to add, the already heat and water extracted roots.

i have wishfull thinking that, the kefir aids to facilitate the solubilety of actives, into water.

 

[psychotropic water kefir]

hi!

 

one time a member here stated something like, "if this herb get's processed with water kefir, it might help to jump the blood brain barrier"....

water kefir mixed with herbs is a not very researched subject.

maybe it doe's though work and it might even do the trick with herbs which are not easy to extract.

 

the advantage right away is that, the brewing process is very simple, and very cheap, as such this ought to give a lot of room to experiment.

my hope would be that one could use a very wide variety of plants as part of a kefir brew.

kefir has a very nice taste, and said to have gut related health benefits.

 

i bought my kefir granules at my local health food shop, and they needed to, wake up, but now they are ready for a "medicinal brew"

kefir excited

[whaT DID you learn from SAB forums?]

the big advantage learning from sab, is that a lot of people have first hand experience, regarding the subjects.

a lot of old style academic books contain, so many mistakes, which just get copied, from the new guy who, decides to write a book.

most of this scholars as well make no adjustments for where you live.

 

i point out for example two issues, first for example, poppies grown outside traditional poppy growing countries hardly produce opium...

or "it's hard to understand, like the natives found out about the psychoactive properties of this plant".  they say this because they never walked through a field of salvia, or smelled the plants on a hot day, when a little drizzle moistens the leaves.

 

a lot of things you learn here a SAB  one can as well, use as inspiration for similar things, like for example my heimia x-talls using only water, has been inspired partly by orbs salvia extraction.  although he uses aceton and methilated spirits, and i use only water. but the main inspiration was to, add a layer of solvent (water is a solvent) without stirring the layer underneath it. 

 

the older posts of sab, are far more naughty, as the laws were not as strict yet. to search for older posts, it's good to use your search engine, plus the term shaman australis.