Guest Thelema Posted September 5, 2002 help! i need to know more about this plant, and would like to obtain it. I have found it on a few o/seas sites. Is it possibly more than just a tryptamine source? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted September 5, 2002 what else would it be in your opinion?? I have been chasing it for years and have managed to get some seeds of non-commercial virola species - but they never germinated (too old). The bark is commonly available though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Thelema Posted September 5, 2002 have you heard the stories of the 8cm man? since such a particularly strange fable does not surround any other plants that contain dmt(most other fables are elves/goblins/buzz-monsters), i assume it may have an entirely different type of effect due to certain other compounds other than nndmt. the 8cm man is talked of as a permanent change in the shaman-to-be's ear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted September 6, 2002 he, he, now I am curious. no I didn't know about the 8cm man. however I think cultural conditioning together with the elf-effect can easily come to this result. It would be interesting to try in someone who doesn't know about the 8cm man (damn, why did you tell me ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t st tantra Posted September 7, 2002 this story is in'in search of the ultimate high' page 115. 'he teaches the shaman about the visions and knowledge that comefrom caapi ' so it's really another dmt/maoi combo. other mentions made of yopo,also used with caapi,did not work instantly[as historically assumed],after snorting the powder was massaged into the sinuses then they had some more.when it came on it sounds like aya type experience. t s t . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
