dionysus

blue lotus extract, perhaps stick around here even if you are deemed unpopular, you may learn a few things about ethnobotany (a topic you must at least be interested in a little bit) and ethics, which surely will improve your business practices and may even eventually redeem your reputation. i am inclined to believe what bread filter says, he has never raised any other suspicion, so i think if your 'friends' in the incense world have told you he has wronged them perhaps they have ulterior motives, which would not be surprising for characters in that game. perhaps if you stick around here a while and contribute something other than drama, you too will oneday garner the loyalty that is awarded to members like bread filter. to all the newer members getting worked up in this thread, it isn't worth your time, shady members come and go often, best focus on the good ones. peace edit: post #420

genius

tobacco products won't be illegal, that would be outrageous, and it's growth is already extremely controlled. i also think there is a provision for haramala containing products / herbal preperations containing under 0.3 percent (not sure on exact percent, its been a while) harmala alkaloids, so eshphand harmala may be sold from middle eastern stores etc

dogs and other animals are going to be tested on for other reasons no matter what and also used for food, imprisoned by pet owners and put out of natural home by development, everyone else is benefiting from their harm, why not us if it is happening anyway? at least our dogs have a 50% chance of a good time, until organ harvesting that is.

the AEA could then provide some basic educational information on its website. ethnobotany is the perfect term for the cause. in the case of acacias, apart from the medicinal properties that may garner negative attention they are also a food source, an artisan timber, contain properties for tanning hide etc, all of these are ethno' uses and equally important to the human-plant relationship of culture and that is why myself and many others are interested in many of these plants. perhaps non-ethno inclined gardening folk will support the cause if it is not just some dreadlocked dude in some tie dyes demanding he be let smoke DMT, and that is exactly what it seems whitewind is trying to achieve, a serious collective of people with interests in ALL aspects of ethnobotany, who will of course market themselves as such. edit, bad grammar

once, on ABC's old show 'spicks and specks' someone said something about the band W.A.S.P and how they were terrible musicians, especially frontman blackie lawless, and how they relied on speed to have any merit. went to explain that W.A.S.P was amongst the first with parental advisory stickers on their CD's (most famously accompanied by twisted sister, whose front man made a fantastic address to the U.S federal court against the stickers). so then, years later when i came accross this song, boy was i confused by its well structured brilliance...

only anecdotal in_spirit, i too am not a doctor, biologist or hepatitis specialist. bleach will kill hepatitis c, but not all the time and not 100%, it is a gamble. i think the process i described works similar to dropping a blood cell into a warm glass of water, osmosis leading to bursting or denaturing via the detergent. there is plenty of stuff around about hepatitis surving boiling and / or bleach exposure, lengthy exposure to the air and sunlight is the only surefire method as far as i can see. anyway, cant hurt to boil, bleach, detergent just in case, might coincidently clean the tusk at the same time ;)

^even bleach may not 100% kill hepatitis. (there was a gent with hep at the same TAFE area as me who often would rock up on the 'done and slice himself on something, leaving the staff to clean his blood, and it was revealled by an OHS person that there methods probably werent cutting it, then a punk rocker lady (who was a punk rocker in the 80s or something, back when having hepatitis was cool) from my class revealed a trick she wish she had learned for her tattoo / heroin needles before her liver was dying, being cold or boiling water force the hepatitis cell to harden up in defense, wear as the lukewarm water will leave it soft and comfortable and render the detergent able to enter and destroy the cell)

boiling won't kill hepatitus, soak in lukewarm, detergent water.

1. maybe notocactus erinaceus (Parodia sellowii ) ? 2 i have not seen anything like before, almost resembles a trich and sort of resembles pachycereus pringlei but not quite in either, im keen to see what others have to say for the both of these edit: added current scientific name of the notocactus, i think their is some more confusing taxonomy going on there

i would perhaps like the small crest in picture number 25 if this has not been claimed and you would be happy to arrange postage for it, at my expense of course

i don't see a problem with the use of the word ethnobotany (or derivatives), as it demonstrates a cultural link to the plants. it is not just a term meaning 'drug plant', the average joe doesn't know the term to associate it with only drug plants and the more educated who will care for the wording of the name will likely understand the full connotations of the term, and not have the similar bias some of us seem to have in thinking of chemically diverse, psychoactive species first when hearing the term. eth-no-bot-a-ny noun: The scientific study of the traditional knowledge and customs of a people concerning plants and their medical, religious, and other uses it would just be important to give equal importance to all plants that fall under this umbrella within association, and not focus on further perpetuation of the notoriety of 'vine' or various acacia species, which, must be a win anyway.

it is unlikely also that all policemen will be trained in the identification of plants and general taxonomy, i think it is a stretch to think that they would ever clue on to your khat plant the same as they would your marijuana plant, unless a neighbour saw you chewing something and called up to dob you in. i regularly see papaver somniferum growing in peoples yards, not worried about, but i imagine if there were a bunch of straw hanging somewhere with nicks all through the pods / stems then maybe you would be suspect. my point is, these laws will likely come dowm to application, and if you are shown to be doing the wrong thing they will have the means to prosecute you, but otherwise you will just be let be, as gardening is not the aspect i think they are targetting. perhaps as a community we shpould start logging our own grows better, making note of when we take a cutting and why, with either the cutting its self as evidence or a written thing from the person you gave it to, so that in a court situation it would be well easy to prove our plants / cacti were only grown for ornamental purposes, as i assume most people's here are. i am aware it is somewhat irresponsible of me to suggest people will get away with it, and i do recommend following the law, but it does infuriate meto think i may be labelled a criminal, a drug addict, a drug cook and / or a spiritual nut case for having a garden i consider nice and ethnoathropologically important. all im saying is, i know i won't be getting rid of my collection, not for anyone. dio

id guessyou have an orocereus spp, 'old man of the andes', and a trichocereus terscheckii, judging only by your brief descriptions and my local bunnings often stocks these good luck attaching some photos

nice topic i have a cheap bass, modeled on fender p-bass, does the job for a cheapy, black/gold les paul custom, a cheap floyd rose super strat, a short scale semi acoustic and a full scale acoustic guitar. i did have a schecter 8 string, but had to (unfortunately) part ways as i needed a little money in recent times, as well as a big ugly sounding line 6 amp i had. i also have flutes, recorders, a keyboard / synth. for recording purposes, i use pre-vista audacity, i find other programs far too complicated, although i export .WAVs to acoustica mixcraft for mixing. i have a line6 poid studio ux2, with instrument, digital and microphone inputs (a few pre-amps available for microphone use) on one pc and a line 6 pod studio gx on the another a few meters away, both units allow decent live monitoring so i can record up to 3 instruments / 1 instrument 2 micropohones or any other combination so that i can do somewhat dodgy, garage quality live recordings of me and someone else over a drum machine or something for fun runken creation sessions. i can't quite work out any of the fruity loops, reason, ableton type programs so i am really limited as to what i can do with electronic music, i can work out basic sounding shit, but there are so many things that confuse me about the program that i can never get anything anywhere near finished. i think i need to sit down week in the near future and thoroughly watch a few tutorial videos or something... also iam far less busy at the moment than i have been the rest f the year psylo if you want to have another crack at a collab, maybe i can add something to something, between PC crashes i dont thing i now have the old projects i was doing a bit on of yours, but, we can work on something else if you want. dio

handy for bush parties; "quick, everyone piss in the genny!", would save someone a trip into town lol

as a regular, and somewhat heavy, rolley smoker, after an irregular night on the taylor mades i sometimes find myself dry-reaching after a cigerette or with a weird tingling sensation in extremities, especially fingers and hands, vageuly reminiscent of a time i think i experienced minor methanol poisoning from home made liquor. i can't think what else these things would be due to, have relatively recently started happening, and don't occur if the same tobacco is just used as spin. dio edit: it just occured to me the 'spin' phenomenon could be due to other components anti nauseating effects.

i dont mind the odd vita brit, occasionaly spread with (real, salty) butter, sprinkled with sugar and topped with raisins is quite a decent snack on the occasion. i can't stand wheat bix though, i guess just the way i was raised

saddens me to think these guys are still only known as 'the knack' and for 'my shorona'

looks like a big fat cuzco, id get it out of that clay potting mix ASAP

sorry i just saw incogs last post and thought he meant you would have a problem with him thinking romney argued better on that occasion, and was saying that you wouldn't, as at least that is an opinion based in politics instead of on appearance alone, which is legitimate. from your last exchange i only recalled the part about turnbull, i probably should have re-read before commenting

bliss

^ i think both those statements can be true, depending on the pathogen. certainly vaccination and hygeine has gone a long way to eradicate some of the worse plagues, but various 'common colds' may affect us worse due to our sterility, at least jabez isn't the first person i have heard suggest this.

thats okay incog, an opinion based on politics instead of appearances, i don't think anyone could complain with you there, however strongly they disagree. the right to differing opinions is one of our only truly democratic principles.

i know you didnt say anything about urban, but there is a reason obamas voice and speach is so powerful to some, and i assumed, wrongly, you knew and implied this with your comment. i once read that to speak like dr king jr or malcom x is to be distrusted by the american voters, and as such obama was once advised on how to sound less 'urban' (more white). again, why can't we let actions speak louder than words? surely his fond-ness for invading less fortunate countries, in secrecy and at night fall, with automatic weapons and flying robots makes him whiter than me by stereo-typical character. i think obama is much more presidential than the republicans (and santiago) make out, im sure given the chance he too would invade iran, as it seems his administration has been working on that anyway, i think he is the prefectly 'cast' actor for the role.