spiders Posted June 8, 2002 I am interested to hear what different people think of the findings of Chang and Mills as well as Buchanan regarding most Australian wood-loving psilocybes being synonmous with Ps.Subaeruginosa and the rejection of their findings by Guzman, King and Bandala (1993), Stamets (PMOTW) and John Allen. Do Chang and Mills actually find mushrooms with pigmented brown Pleurocystidia?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gwydion Posted June 8, 2002 What are the details of those findings, or where can one read them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiders Posted June 27, 2002 Cleland first described ps.Subaeruginosa as having a variety of forms, and a variety of cell-shaped Pluero cystidia. Guzman came out and rejected this, defining four types of psilocybe in Australia - Eucys, Aust., Tass, and Subs... Chang and Mills, also Buchanan rejected these findings by demonstrating synonymy between the spores of all four species (without Australiana) and other factors... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reville Posted June 27, 2002 I guess it depends on the weighting you give each characteristic. I 100% believe that there are several cloesly related species. Why? Macroscopic and ecological differences. Inconclusive eveidence but sufficient to suggest differences. things like habitat prefernce, size, cap colour More importantly the Gill cystidia or lack thereof and more recently the mycelial characteristics in culture, for example the wavy capped variant does not stain blue whereas the Subaeruginosa 'Kersbrook clone' blues strongly in response to disturbance on identical media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterdragon Posted June 28, 2002 has to be more than four, just has to be. of the ones i've examined recently in my area there is one type that resembles a wavy capped cyan more than anything, another that resembles pics i've seen of subs plus it grows in slightly shadier places, a pale capped variety with a dull sheen, another that very closely resembles pics i've seen of azures and the most irritating of all: a classic psilo that stains something frantic yet the gills never get beyond the juvenile colour even at full maturity and decay. all these, except the last, stain blue, have the purple black print, classic shapes and are active(i'm told by a reliable source that i seldom disagree with). and that's just in isolated sections of forest in my area. who knows what waits under other varieties of trees and circumstance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiders Posted June 29, 2002 maybe the wavy cap should be called ps.subcyanescens (or maybe not...) maybe Ps.tripaloticus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
