tizocAu Posted November 8, 2013 I recently purchased a cutting on ebay from kakster, he told me he got it from a trade long ago..I was wondering if it was there cuttings tbat knize sold around the year 2000 that eventually started the short spine peruvianus mix up, and nurserys started selling em as peruvianis. According to what I have researched on these they come from either spots rio chillon langa or genuine loc. And the one I have looks very simmilar to what trout has in his website just that mine looks pretty beat up. They look like the ones in grizlys pictures from around matucana.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites