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Hi all can anyone is these?

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If anyone can confidently I'd this last one I take my hat off to you. I got it as a seed grown pachanoi first pic is old growth and looks kind of pachanoi. The second pic is new growth wtf

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The first might not even be a Trichocereus...hard to tell, but the spination is "off." The second is straight T. cuzcoensis, while I would guess the third a mutt with T. cuzcoensis in it. Notice the spine similarity between the two, particularly the fat spine bases and there being a long central and a long uppermost spine on both. Pretty common.

The fourth plant in the last two shots is probably a mutt too. I'd say with a bit of the PC or T. bridgesii in it. I wouldn't even remove the possibility of it being a PC x T. bridgesii.

Hope that helps, but like I've said, the longer these plants are around and being actively breed and sown then there will be a lot less clarity. :blink:

~Michael~

Edit - um, "their" to "there." I can't believe I made one of my biggest pet-peeves ever.

Edited by M S Smith

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I had a luther burbank (peru) x bridgesii that looked like number 5 :) grew big, spiky and blue before it was sold.

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Hey cheers

I ment to say the fourth is supposed to be wild collected seed.

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1/ Not really sure, Borzicactus is a possibilty.

2/ I'm thinking a hybrid with Cuzco lineage

3/ Is the same as the first plant, Borzicactus ?

4/ I'm of the opinion the last plant is a hybrid but has the majority of it's family lines are in the Brigdesii lineage.

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Hey guys thanks for the replies

I was going to say yous were way off saying 1 and 3 werent trichocereus but then i looked up borzicactus and it does look very similar to number one. I still think three is a trichocereus tho.

Also forgot to mention that no. 5 shoots random bent spines every now and then like some Montrose thing. Most are dead strait but about 10% come out either curved or wavy or strait with a bend and point in all different directions

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Cactuscarl,

Bent and wavy spines are common among all cacti of the creoid family and could be due to environment, cultivation factors or genetics. However this is not a good indicator to use for ID purposes since it is a varying trait that many plants can possess.

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