Zen Peddler Posted June 7, 2013 On the train home I was listening to a conversation between some teenagers (maybe 16 tops) who were talking about how they were going to buy 'White Bull' and how its legal and an alternative to cocaine. One said that the shop where ever it was was not only selling 'white revolver'. I heard mutterings about similar chems and my interest was pegged. While no one really seems to know what is in these powders there have been some testing and educated guesses. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylenedioxypyrovalerone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-PVP Just in case anyone has interest in what kids are apparently buying and consuming... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zen Peddler Posted June 7, 2013 For some reason I thought these were all cathinone derivatives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foo Posted June 7, 2013 I bet some money that you were right about the cathinone's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted June 7, 2013 Both are likely to be pyrovalerones. MDPV or alphaPVP. Cathinones are no longer on the open market because of the crack down a couple of years ago [although still plenty available from more hidden sources]. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites