GHB in Nymphaea lotus

[mindperformer]

GHB was found in low concentrations in a few plants, also in Nymphaea lotus:

I hope the pdf-link works

name of the study from 2007: "CONSTITUENTS OF NYMPHAEA LOTUS LINN."

https://www.google.at/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDsQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.unilag.edu.ng%2Fopendoc.php%3Fsno%3D17620%26doctype%3Dpdf%26docname%3D%24&ei=mjwzUcyKOeuQ4gSFoIDYDw&usg=AFQjCNHJm-0l9rfI7x6s2nuklNt04o5cNA&bvm=bv.43148975,d.bGE

GHB (gamma hydroxy butyric acid) is mentioned in this study with the synonym "4-hydroxy butanoic acid"

Nymphaea lotus often has its leaves under water (in contrast to N. caerulea and Nelumbo sp.) and is available as plant in aquaristic stores

GHB was also found in Quercus suber, fermented products like aged meat, tobacco and wine and Hippocrepis comosa, GHB-glucosides in Anoectochilus and Goodyera species

The GHB-precursor GBL (metabolically converted to GHB) was also found in plants like Rhododendron ponticum and Zanthoxylum piperitum (suspension culture).

The GHB-analog Funebrin was found in Rosita de Cacao (Quararibea funebris)- flowers

Of course this is only for scientific information, anyway an extraction would be inefficient, regarding the low amounts in these plants.

Edited March 3, 2013 by mindperformer

[endorfinder]

Interesting.. But probably doesn't amount to much since the margin between threshold, recreational and over doses of ghb is very narrow :/

Sub threshold ghb has negligible activity below 0.5g IMO. Sadly it is unlikely to produce any more psychoactive effect than ghb in meat.

[mindperformer]

yes, 0,5g is the threshold dose, but there is also no risk with 2g and of course there are also sub-threshold effects possible, however it is quite save if no alcohol is consumed and thats the problem in the clubs, but don't get me wrong, the dosage is always important.

The book "Psychedelische Chemie" from Daniel Trachsel and Nicolas Richard describes it as save and very acute antidepressant.

It is also used medicinally under the name "Xyrem" against narcolepsy because after the GHB-induced sleep narcoleptic patients feel very active.

And of course we ourself produce it and there are also GHB-receptors, which are more responsible for the negative effects of a high GHB-dose. The pleasurable effects are caused by the action on extrasynaptic GABA-A receptors of the type α4β1δ

The dangers are the consumption with alcohol and other sedatives, very high doses in the wrong setting and regular use for a longer period. In the mentioned book was stated that it has no risk of addiction, this is wrong.

With regular use there is surely a psychological addiction possible and there are new studies indicating a physical addiction after long-time use.

According to the Nymphaea I remember the old egyptians, putting lotus flowers in red wine, both containing GHB (of course there was no finding specific in Nymphaea caerulea, but in N. lotus)

Edited March 3, 2013 by mindperformer