trichocereus i.d

[san p]

i bought this old trichocereus a while back when it wasnt in great shape and was pretty sure it was a scop as it had pretty much no spines and semi sharp raised ribs.the unhealthy cut logs proved to be very effective.

now several months later im not so sure,thinking pach x scop.any thoughts?

[ballzac]

I would have said pachanoi...similar to a yowie.

(EDIT: I have assumed that this piece has lost its spines. If it is naturally spineless though, you could be right about it having scop genetics in it. Put a couple of 1/4 inch downward pointing spines on it, and it looks like good pachanoi.)

Edited February 13, 2010 by ballzac

[bit]

Looks like regular pach to me. Growing very nicely too - I love it when plants are that size in fresh mix and just powering up!

BTW how many fruit would you like? :D Bear in mind each one has hundreds of seed so you could quickly become swamped by seedlings like I am heh :D

Edited February 13, 2010 by bit

[Chiral]

Pachanoi but not PC.

[san p]

so just a regular pach,i must have just been imagining things haha.

heres another pic of it as i seemed to have double posted the top view.

and heres my other pach's

standard nz pach

pc pach?

[san p]

Looks like regular pach to me. Growing very nicely too - I love it when plants are that size in fresh mix and just powering up!

BTW how many fruit would you like? :D Bear in mind each one has hundreds of seed so you could quickly become swamped by seedlings like I am heh :D

hi bit,um ill take one maybe two fruits please.

yeah its going to get a little swamped here soon too,with icaro,bridgesii,ariocarpus,lophs and your trich hybrids from last season all in the process.

cheers

 

[Illustro]

Many of the T. pachanoi's in NZ are pachanoi x scopulicola, im not sure where these plants originally came from - but they have been getting traded around the country through the cactus society channels for a long time.

Looks like what you have.

[bit]

Many of the T. pachanoi's in NZ are pachanoi x scopulicola, im not sure where these plants originally came from - but they have been getting traded around the country through the cactus society channels for a long time.

Looks like what you have.

 

Interesting, how have you come by this info?

[Illustro]

I know a few veteran CSSNZ members, they all have the same T. pachanoi x T. scopulicola San Pedros in their gardens. I have never seen a CSSNZ member with a non-hybridized BC San Pedro, they all seem to have these hybrids.

All i have heard is this San Pedro breed has been around for decades, proliferated and sold by members to the public. One member has a garden full of these hybrids, they said they got their first cutting in the early 80's - they knew they were actually hybrids but they were simply the only readily-available Trichocereus cacti in NZ at the time and they also weren't concerned about how true their Trichocereus species were.

[bit]

would love to see pictures of them. I don't have time to join the cssnz really.