Poppy Porn

[Guest reville]

An interesting site with some nice seeds

some you can import (ICON OK)

others we can't please check if you inten to order

http://www.alchemy-works.com/papaver_lateritium.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/papaver_radicatum.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/papaver_atlanticum.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/papaver_rupifragum.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/papaver_bracteatum.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/romneya_coulteri.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/papaver_rhaeticum.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/papaver_pilosum.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/papaver_miyabeanum.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/papaver_glaucum.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/psom_white_cloud.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/psom_black_peony.html

and more at

http://www.alchemy-works.com/seed_index.html

the information on this site is excellent.

and finally! a source for these ones!

http://www.alchemy-works.com/mirabilis_multiflora.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/nymphaea_caerulea.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/scirpus_atrovirens.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/mandragora_au...autumnalis.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/datura_fastuosa.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/artemisia_annua.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/meconopsis_grandis.html http://www.alchemy-works.com/meconopsis_x_..._sheldonii.html

[VINS]

the webmaster is called harry and he is very friendly... you can ask him for a special surch.

[VINS]

if it is time to do advertissment you also could go to http://www2.aros.net/~lambo/somniferum/poppy.htm

it is interesting for info and great choice of paeony.

Reville, did you read the persian page at alchemyworkseed ? they are talking about the possibility of having sometime some dark specimens with the white.

maybe soon, the true about persian...

[Guest reville]

Originally posted by VIN'S:

if it is time to do advertissment you also could go to

it is interesting for info and great choice of paeony.

Reville, did you read the persian page at alchemyworkseed ? they are talking about the possibility of having sometime some dark specimens with the white.

maybe soon, the true about persian...

yeah i read that, id imagine that true persian field poppies would be all colours not just white, like that documentary on afghani poppies

Lambo used to post here till he got his nose out of joint, deleted all posts and went off in a huff... seemed a bit self important to do something like that.

He was interested in my pink paeonies but wanted 3.5g as a sample to 'check viability'

3.5g of seed is quite a bit just to check viability - 100 seeds on cottonwool would give a representative example. I read another person did a similar thing for Izmir poppies and then found izmir selling the seed.

I don't mind sending seed if thats what he intended but i think that sort of behaviour is dishonest.

[VINS]

he require me 3.5g of seed too for analyse when i proposed him a trade.

i sent it some and now wait for an answer.

i didn't like the quantity he ask for and also think he could analise with a more little sample.

but we have to be cool,and give him a chance... that is why i tried.

[Guest reville]

yeah i guess but im sus of what becomes of this sample - sent for free - with no offers of reciprocal sample.

a bit unfair really

an offer of a pkt of a few of his paeonies would be nice - just 100 seeds of each or so

I mean honestly have you *ever* had a problem with papaver viability? the ones they sell in australia are meant to be irradiated to kill the and they still remain viable!

Ill be interested to see how it goes.

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[VINS]

this is the result :

"I regret to inform that the seeds sample submitted has failed viability

and mycology testing.

Fungus spores were detected upon the seeds surfaces from at least three

different species. Fungus spores originate from Earth's atmosphere where

there are millions of them, and collect upon the seeds surfaces. It

appears that the seeds experienced prolonged exposure to Earth's

atmosphere.Only a few seeds sprouted, and their health were extremely poor. The

majority of the sprouts decayed at their bases and quickly died. These

seeds probably could not grow into mature plants."

i have doing a lot of "home test" myself by sawing the seed at 15 celcius with arround 100% succes.

i have ever grow them and they could become adults.

poppy seeds are often viable and i am sure you don't have any problem with germination !

in conclusion the lambo test don't mean nothing. except give me your seeds i need to sell them...

of course it is only my opinion !!!

[Guest reville]

This is obviously the same line he uses to rip people off as standard.

This whole spiel is quite patronising and grossly misrepresents reality

Sure fungus comes from the air, but the kinds

of fungus that woud show up this way are the normal moulds like penicillium, aspergillus, mucor to name a few, and are normal.

The kinds of fungi he should be worried about

are rusts (which wont show until much later as they are strictly parasitic on plant tissues) and soil borne spores of pathogens like Pythium and Phytopthera.

I doubt Lambo would have the skills and equipment to identify these as finding them would require two separate and quite complex selective agar media, and would not be a 'viability test' anyway.

Another species - Fusarium- may show up, but Fusarium is *everywhere* and manifests istelf just about anywhere that is organic and overly wet. They tend to produce purple pigments.

A species of Fusarium is the bioweapon that has been developed against Coca from a research station in Hawaii.

I once saw a program that featured a lab in the Commonwealth of Independent States (thats still the mname for the ex-soviet republics yes?) that ws breeding a pathogen against opium poppies. It was a long time ago but trying to remember its appearance in culture with what i know now i wouldnt be suprised if it too was a fusarium species.

The down side of using a fungal pathogen that isnt a rust is that they generally work best when its wet, and afghanistan isnt the wettest place on earth. It may have more hope in SE Asia, mexico and Colombian poppy fields.Hey maybe thats their purpose? to drive up prices by killing off the competition.

Anyway back to Lamboseeds.sounds shoddy to me.Did you ask for your seeds back?

[Erliquin]

Vins, have you planted the poppy seeds that I sent you? Viable seed. Shouldn't have any drama.

[VINS]

no matter earl !

i have tried to plant a little of your seeds without good results but it was because of me !

i have tried to saw at the end of summer and it is really too late. now i wait for the spring in 2month to retry.

thanks again

ciao

[VINS]

Earl,

are you sure of the strain your poppy are ?

for me they are "scarlet", do you really think they are Taz ?

[Erliquin]

Hi Vins,

If what you were sent was the single red, than yes, they're Tazzies. I've lost track of who I've sent what to. So many and I don't keep sn@il records.

Here's what they look like in open veggie bed.

http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?th readid=32545://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showth...th readid=32545://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showth...th readid=32545://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showth...th readid=32545://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showth...th readid=32545://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showth...th readid=32545://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showth...th readid=32545://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showth...th readid=32545://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showth...th readid=32545://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showth...th readid=32545://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showth...th readid=32545://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showth...th readid=32545://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showth...th readid=32545://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showth...th readid=32545

Here's what it looks like close up.

http://www.overgrow.com/edge/gallery.php?userid=1600 &lastpage=64&perpage=9&action=view&sortby=name&in=SingleRedExample.JPG://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/galler...eRedExample.JPG://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/galler...eRedExample.JPG://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/galler...eRedExample.JPG://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/galler...eRedExample.JPG://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/galler...eRedExample.JPG://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/galler...eRedExample.JPG://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/galler...eRedExample.JPG://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/galler...eRedExample.JPG://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/galler...eRedExample.JPG://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/galler...eRedExample.JPG://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/galler...eRedExample.JPG://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/galler...eRedExample.JPG://http://www.overgrow.com/edge/galler...eRedExample.JPG

It's only an interstate plane flight to Taz, a mate got the seeds back in the early 90's.

BTW, you'll improve gemination success with a fine dusting of copper oxychloride on the seeds. It's an active constituent in tomato dust. So get some at your local garden centre. Stops damping off.

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[waterdragon]

erl is this what tassie growers used to grow? i'm pretty sure that the strains mentioned these days as tassies are very different to those.

[VINS]

hy Erl ,

what you sent me was a pink strain who look like the scarlet strain.

your picture of red plants are beautifull, and your crop is beautifull.!did they have this colors when you had them, or did they became more red, year after year ?

let me know when you will have some redplants seeds to trade !

WD, about Taz, i have seen pict with all colors:

white, mild pink, lilas, pink, pink with purple and now red !

the true color is surely the color we could see on field picts.

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[VINS]

someone has told me about putting orange juice on the seeds to improve germination.

is it also a good method ?

for now my method is to put the seeds in the freezer during a few days before planting.