Yeti101 Posted June 12, 2002 Do other Psychotria species contain tryptamines? Eg, Psychotria loniceroides, a native that grows frow Cape York as far south as Bega? Wouldn't it be fun if it did :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yeti101 Posted June 12, 2002 Or how about this? http://www.chem.mq.edu.au/npg/abstracts/SH.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murple Posted June 14, 2002 Some species definately contain DMT... for example P. alba and P. carthaginensis, both closely allied to P. viridis. I'm sure some others contain tryptamines as well, probably in useful quantities in a few species. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theobromos Posted June 19, 2002 Pyrrolidinoindoline alkaloids (as found in Psychotria malayana) are often nauseating and, in sufficient quantity, fatal. They also accumulate over time, one type staying in the body for at least 60 days. Many Psychotria species contain large quantities of these toxic alkaloids (like emetine) and so it is not safe to bioassay species without either careful purification or much chemical analysis. The dimeric indole alkaloids are usually no fun. I presume this is true of the trimeric ones too. Too much bulk to fit into the serotonin receptors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yeti101 Posted June 19, 2002 Cool, thanks Theo. All this investigation into salvia sp got me thinking about other interesting plants and their relatives. still I would be interested in seeing an analyis of some australian pychotrias. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t st tantra Posted June 22, 2002 a local dnome carefully smoked loniceroides leaves and water ext in small amounts and experienced only an interesting clearing of the mind and senses.this was the same with fitzalanii.no negative effects were reported,no tryptamines seemed present so he assumed all this is legal anyway.even if possibly dangerous. t s t . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites