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  1. Chickweed = Stellaria sp.?

    Lamb's Quarters = Chenopodium album = Fat Hen? - seeds might be better (related to Quinoa) but the leaves contain oxalic acid so not good in large quantities

    All of my favorite greens (including spinach) contain oxalic acid.

    Re survival crops, it's my understanding that sweet potatoes, Ipomea batatas, are nutritionally complete aside from protein. Good choice if the climate can support it.

  2. This is an awesome thread.

    I think I can contribute, because I am pretty 'unhygenic' in terms of washing hands and whatnot, and generally don't get sick. Never had glandular fever.

    But, since I moved to Melbourne, I get sick every Winter! And I've had food poisoning at least twice and once some sort of stomach failure that left me completely screwed for 2 weeks. For someone who grew up with only the occasional flu, this was a lot to cope with!

    After this experience, to me it seems that it's all about what your body can handle.

    This Winter I've been experimenting with preventatives:

    * Ginger/honey/lemon tea (lemon and honey put in after the water has cooled)

    * Spoonfuls of honey

    * Echinacea+Garlic+Zinc+vitC tablets

    * Andrographis extract tablets

    * Strepsils

    * Phyllanthus emblica pure herb capsules

    * Chewing licorice root

    Coupled with trying much harder to stay warm. With very good success. Haven't been sick once since I've started taking them, even though I've shared smoking with a bunch of friends who were very sick. I don't take it every day, but every second day or as soon as I feel any sort of symptoms coming on.

    So I can anecdotally concur with the study posted earlier, that the symptoms of flu are your immune system responding. As I've gone to great efforts to ensure my immune system doesn't get compromised I've been completely unsymptomatic. Not even the sniffles. I feel much more confident using public transport at peak times, as I know as soon as I get home the correct thing to do is boost the immune system.

    The only thing Idon't like about Echinacea is the warfarin interaction, my blood seems to thin a lot after even a relatively mild dose of the stuff. Which is a shame as I think that makes it much more difficult to take higher doses if I need it. For example, if I take equiv 2g dry herb in extract tablets before bed and blow my nose in the morning, my blood can still be quite thin and come out with mucous.

  3. How'd you go, any thefts overnight?

    Just for the record, if you have a bunch of mates who like to stay up late waiting for pricks who steal plants, in NSW citizens can perform a citizens arrest for almost anything! I would try and catch them in the act, threaten them with physical force if they don't cooperate and make a citizens arrest. Call the cops and explain to them that you're a rare plant collector who has just caught the burglar who has been in your yard every night for the last week.

  4. I have not made my mind up about any of this yet. My solicitor has engaged Stuart Littlemore QC [of Media Watch and 4Corners fame] to get more advice on this as he is very familiar with media issues and an excellent barrister. We are both goign to sydney in the next couple of weeks to see Stuart Littlemore for advice. Nothing will be decided till then.

    Woah! When you see Stuart, will you tell him that he is one of my heroes?

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  5. Up until very recently, one of the systems I administered was a small-animal MRI scanner (and related infrastructure), which operates mostly on mice and rats, exactly the genetic lines used in these types of experiments. (hole board test, tail flick test, etc)

  6. For all the Scientist out there lifted from around the net.

    S. guaranitica is a traditional medicinal plant used in Latin America as sedative. The presence of cirsiliol in its extracts was previously demonstrated, and this flavonoid was shown to be a competitive low affinity benzodiazepine receptor ligand [see Phytomedicine (1996) 3, 29-32]. This report describes the pharmacological properties of S. guaranitica extracts and of its active principle, cirsiliol. A partially purified fraction of the plant (collected in Buenos Aires, Argentina), administered intraperitoneally in mice (in a dose equivalent to 3 g of the fresh plant), exhibited sedative and hypnotic effects as measured in the hole board and in the pentobarbital-induced sleep tests, respectively. This fraction had no anxiolytic or myorelaxant effects. In the pentobarbital-induced sleep test, cirsiliol (2-10 mg/kg, i.p.) exhibited a dose-dependent hypnotic action. In contrast, it did not produce myorelaxant (up to 30 mg/kg) or anticonvulsant (up to 10 mg/kg) effects. Cirsiliol was more potent in displacing 3H zolpidem binding (Ki = 20 micro M) than 3H flunitrazepam binding (Ki = 200 micro M) to benzodiazepine receptors from rat cerebral cortex. It is concluded that the extracts and the active principle, cirsiliol, possess sedative and hypnotic properties; cirsiliol produces these effects probably acting on the so-called type I benzodiazepine receptor.

    ANd some old reading from right here


    Make up your own mind, its not Sally D and it never will be. But I think it has some medicine definitely.

    Stillman, this is exactly why it's important to include the references and in this case I appreciate that you ran it down for us. For etiquette, it's also important you annotate the reference properly so other people can go and find it.

    Sedative and hypnotic properties of Salvia guaranitica St. Hil. and of its active principle, Cirsiliol

    • H. Viola1,
    • C. Wasowski2,
    • M. Marder2,
    • C. Wolfman1,
    • A.C. Paladini2,
    • J.H. Medina1, *

    • 1 Instituto de Biologia Celular y Neurociencias, Facultad de Medicina, UBA
    • 2 Instituto de Quimica y Fisicoquimica Biologicas (UBA-CONICET), Facultad de Farmacia y Bioquimica, Buenos Aires, Argentina

    I'd point out that a 3g equiv dose is roughly 12% of an average (25g) mouse body weight, so we are talking >5kg fresh material for a 50kg human or >500g dry material. So it would be extremely unlikely to see effects from such a low dose as reported "a few leaves or flowers"...much more likely placebo.

  7. Half of the reason I left this forum was exactly because more and more people were coming on and spouting their personal opinion as fact to other people who didn't know any better and if you tried to point out that it was nothing more than opinion you ended up in this exact back-and-forth.

    I can see it's still the same. I'm not really interested in contributing to this sort of thing, so I'll leave you and the others to it. Enjoy!

    Its not a trip report mate.

    I agree, at least a trip report covers a modicum of information which can be useful in any attempts to reproduce the assay as opposed to "hey I ingested an (indeterminate amount?) of (dry?) (fresh?) plant matter and am now convinced it has XYZ effects."

  8. I do believe that certain strains of S splendens contain active properties. I think there is a calmative almost mild antidepressant quality.

    IMHO when reporting to the forums it's really, really, really important to stress the difference between a personal bioassay and actual scientifically verified fact.

    What you believe and think needs to be stated with great care, rather than carelessly, which gives people the opportunity to mis-read your statements!

    and again:

    The costa rico had definite sedative quality

    Come on dude! What you mean to say is that:

    "the one time I smoked this plant in an un-measured, un-standardised dose, I felt it had a sedative quality, which could easily have been the effect of placebo."

  9. what assurance? That it is not a psychedelic high?

    You said "I can assure you this variety has some active properties". I asked, how can you make this assurance? Especially considering proper double blind human assays for splendens have shown up nothing?

  10. I would say 99% of this Australian freeman/common law stuff that incessantly keeps popping up on the net is confused regurgitations from already confused people from the UK and US who aren't educated at all on the law.

    Having kept in close contact with someone who actually tried to use Common Law as the basis of a legal challenge (and documented it all on this forum) I remain extremely skeptical as to any practical applications.

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  11. ok my understanding is alot different...

    common law is magna carta , it is part of the commonwealth constitution.

    What is your understanding based on? Youtube videos about freeman stuff? Ever checked the actual law?

    Common law is Magna Carta? Again, what are you basing this on?

    There is only a single chapter (29) of Magna Carta which was preserved in Australia, and that is in relation to trial by a jury of peers and the right to a speedy trial! That is all! Even then there exist a bunch of state laws which override that chapter anyway!

    As for your claim the Magna Carta is part of the Commonwealth Constitution.... :huh: , have you actually read the Commonwealth Constitution, because...lol

    everything is based on maritime admiralty law , the law of the sea.

    this includes all the fines from the courts , the police , the taxes for the ato , everything....

    Prove this statement which you make as fact by highlighting the appropriate sections of law.

    so again i question.. how does a act or statue in the state laws formed from commercial code over rule a real LAW thats under the constitution ?


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  12. cannabis = first speedy and later sleepy

    According to Ayurveda:

    On the spiritual level, ganja has a specific action on the three gunas. In the initial euphoria phase, the sattva guna is activated. Later, as giggles and "munchies" set in, rajas predominates. Finally, the long-term effect is that of tamas, leading to a dull and foggy state of mind.
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  13. its not a psychedelic high in any way, its more opiate a warmness in the chest heavy limbs slightly disorientated, I can assure you this variety has some active properties.

    How can you make that assurance? People who tested under double blind couldn't spot the difference between it and placebo?

    AFAIK the only confirmed psychoactive use is to increase sensitivity to S divinorum in those heads which are hard to it.

  14. My experiments with this may also be helpful...

    Daily cannabis use for 1+ month = Lucid dreaming decreased significantly

    Cold turkey break for 1-3(minimum) days = A flood of lucidity that then tapered off gradually

    Calea + cannabis = little / no lucid experience increase

    Calea + cannabis break = Significant increase in lucid dream occurrence.

    ...I've only started trying some Valerian root powder before bed and it feels a little inconsistent with its results

    So perhaps if you're not already doing so, just ingest the Calea with no other variables.

    Lucid dreaming is just incredible...Really demonstrates how infinitely powerful the brain can be. Good luck!

    This is all about the cannabis and not really about the Calea. What you are describing is the depleting/repleting effect of cannabis on serotonergic and dopaminergic neurotransmitters.

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  15. I will add my experience, which was mostly derived from reading other people experiences on this forum! I can't recommend the search engine highly enough.

    * Calea extract (acetone made): ingested equiv to the traditional "one cupped handful" dose immediately before bed. Only minor lucid experience, one dream I remember so distinctly is picking up a pack of Kettle chips off the shelf in a supermarket and I was sooooo amazed at being able to feel the texture of the bag in my dream. Main effect was rather the amazing feeling I got when I woke up, usually after ingesting this home-made extract I would wake up 2-4 hours earlier than normal feeling absolutely amazing and happy.

    * Calea smoked (bong): Prepare for bed. Turn off all the lights. It's gotta be really dark already! Smoking this substanc while the lights are on, doesn't seem to work for me. Smoke 5-10 cones of the pure herb in a row and immediately go to bed. Strong lucid dreams and amazing feeling on wakeup. Obviously that's a lot to smoke before bed but my experiments indicated that lower doses were ineffective.

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  16. even though no one else gets it?

    No-one on this forum has reported getting it, but people on the net are reporting it (recently too). For example


    TRy to turn off js minify and if that doesn't work try disabling all hooks and apps and rebuild all cache.

    I was more responding to the question "is it just me?", after checking the message I think it's unlikely the users computer is the source of the issue.