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yeah e-cigs can be purchased LEGALLY in Australian shops, just with no NICOTINE in them.... you can IMPORT NICOTINE with a Medical Import License, you can get 3month supply at any time. all legal.

Yes, but not really a option Yes but only for 12months then you must apply for extension, its true it is considered a rural building but then to live in it (ie: not have welfare steal your children) it must be "livible" so for that it must be a perminint dwelling for living more then 12months on the site, and in that case a shed isnt a permament dwelling and as soon as you do make it one (if you could) it would then not be allowed bcause you can only have "one perm dwelling" on a property under 500scres its really not good, but there is hope for us, the property is 6km from town... and soon they may be extending residential boundrys of the town by 7kms... really you goto admit thats some wonderfull manifestation and universe work to get the above, it means we can subdivide for it will be rezoned..... and those numbers are amusing... so many things to fall into a fine place for that outcome i never expected it.

Hey guys, Finally we have made a great start in a long term dream and purchased 110heacters in NSW (near Glenn Inns, amazing land, very beautiful ) to build a ecovillage/community (so to call it) apon. Land is perfect many natural resources , springs, creeks, deer, goats, wild foods already there for a start. Problem we are facing is with local shire laws and the steps needed to take to officialy start the ecovillage down the right tracks. Our basic accommodation module has been developed by a specialist architect, and we have no problems with getting ONE of these units built on the land. a 2 bedroom cottage made from hay bails and cob (claymud/sand/straw), the plans have been drafted to NSW regulations and Australia building standards and is guaranteed to get passed by the architect. The land has a current building title for the next 5 years. (ok to build) Problem we face is there is a multi occupancy clause that makes it so other occupancy's must be attached to each other and in this shire sub division's must be 500acears and our block is 300, i assume if we declair it a village as such we dont have to worry about this restrictions? all this is great in theory with common law so the speak but in practice what form do i start with? Or really in common law we just start? but i would rather the shire on my side and not against me.... So what steps must i take to somehow declair the land as a village under law or freeman / common law, legitly I first register a Co OP and then the transfer the land into the Co Op's name???? What are my REAL options to get this achevied? selling the land and buying elsewhere is not a option. I have spoke to the town planer and they are "ok" with this but they cant change the restrictions ( they are attending expo's with plans to try change it), a loop hole they subconsciously suggested to me was to declair all "homes" as rural sheds and apply for a exemption every 12 months. Any more ideas? Any lawyers would like to offer there services at a Discounted price to help draft a few contracts and help set up a Co OP or Pty Ltd to manage / own the property would be much appreciated, please forward quote to me. It will be a Trading Co Op Group ( i think will be best), not non for profit co op, we have 2 members required for Co-op Group or could get 5 if required for the co-op. Thanks again, Any help / ideas would be greatly appreciated. Or any questions on any thing to do with our planing don't hesitate to ask. Confused once again.... V

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Hi santiago, i tottaly agree, It cant be tricky, i suggest you find a "cheap" draftsman who is into "alternative living" and offer them a "trade" (not sure your services). Stick a ad on gumtree/craigslist and you will be suprised i placed a ad and had many options some people offering to do it for just the cost of travel simply for the challange of getting it approved (honestly, i can forward you there address if you are building in New England NSW). In regards to the other building tech's i have just ran out of time with uni work, so much to study.... If you had cheap/recycled bricks that would be great, its not all adobe but there are no rules, do what you like, its better then the bricks getting stuck in the ground as cheap land fill, just make sure to put your cob/adobe walls up on the side with the most sun so it can asorbe that preciouse energy and spread it around the house. good luck -v

i remember a few years ago to purchase psilocybe tampanensis you would go into HHH and ask for "philospphers stone" you got it as a resin looking block.... havnt asked for a while, let me know if this is still "legally availible" otc.

something fishy is going on here... something real fishy. (no phun intended) why did the swedish not have these side effects with Desomorphine? is it simply because the russian junkies are shooting up bad chemestry.... or something more evil is going on... in reagrds to the pcitures it seems some are only a few months old, your guaranteed to die within 3years it seems. simply missing a vein causes major problems from the start injecting that dirty shit directly into your mussles.... maybe the problem comes form the injection into there mussles (missing vein) and not from the Desomorphine itself, or maybe it comes from the fact that they are not purifying it, either way this smells fishy and i wish the media would do more research.... I dont get it, i mean if you shoot the cleanest heroin directly into your mussle with a rusty dirty needle its going to cause some problems including abcess's and all that dirty shitm, this "krocodile phanomanom" seems like bad steralization methods and shitty cooks, not Desomorphine. Not for the weak of heart: http://www.bestgore.com/medical/brutal-effects-krokodil-desomorphine-drug-addicted-russia/

council laws are nothing, it will take you a 10min phone call to find out anything you need, call the local council and ask them about duel occupancy give them your address or lot number, or simply stick a caravan up out the back thats a non permanent residence and dosnt need any "laws" to put up You can also build "rural buildings / farm buildings and sheds" around most places without approval,simply just live in a shed, build a "COB and STRAW" shed at the back of your folks house and live in that You can PLAN/BUILD As you go, simply get approval for a small tiny 1 bedroom cob house then once its approved build it, now for extensions you dont need approval so simply then extend your house to how you like..

so the bill is debit, once you accept the debit for value and give it faith then the accountants on the other end can balance there books....

There are over 50 success's in the state's doing this, lots of large accountants who deal with the IRS have known this for many many many years. it all makes sense you are basically billing your stock at the exchange for the funds, look up your birth certificate number call a good brooker and get them to look up how much its work "billions" at the new york stock exchange. I think a banker by definition can be anyone who "touches" money, think about it we are all bankers, its got nothing to do with fair trade policy ^_^. It all makes sense, no crazy shit going on here just common law, " Accept means you will pay the document..... If you pay the document/ negotiable estimate, then obviously it belongs to you..... anyone who sends you a bill and does not send you the check to pay it with, has created a liability witch they did not provide the remedy..... uniform commercial code doctrine: in order to create liability you have have to make presentment (give it to them. hand them paper)......... If they made presentment then they have to provide a remedy for it cause they just created liability in the public....."

Ya i am aware of that but really its to hard (no offence), or i could simply just stuff them and worry about rezoning once the time comes.... Minimal subdivison is 500ac, so i cant subdivide it, i will try contact Wytaliba and talk to them, maybe 500 isnt enough

Plans will be released for free, but archatect cant come to propaty becuase it takes a long time in NSW to settle property, in QLD apparently real estate agents write there own contracts in NSW lawyers do it.... To get it approved you will need to take into consideration the soil type of where you are building it, termite protection, quake protection, bush fire protection and a few other things, basicly it dosnt matter what you build a home out of theres no special codes for earth buildings its just you must follow Australian Building Standards and you must follow NSW Building Codes, so Buy both books and do a online 2hr course to get your "Owner Builders Permit", then once you have plans that take into consideration the codes you present it to the town planer and building inspecter at the local shire. You should first ring the local shire and talk to town planner and building inspecter tell them your plans they will help you. NSW: http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/ http://housingcode.planning.nsw.gov.au/

Thanks guys, Ya its a very interesting topic, cant wait to get started on mine.... so close... Once i get plans drafted for NSW building codes and signed off by engineer i will upload them for free as like a "open source" home Thanks for your links Ajna will be checking out the full length doco tonight, ill let you know how i find it. -V

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For those still interested remember that all prices are negotiable, keep in mind that people have got property's for three times less then the initial advertised price, its even expected you negotiate, if all you have is 10k then just offer 10k, you may find a offer of 10k on a 40k property will get the ball rolling and could open the window for barter card or trades. Let me just tell you quietly i hopefully will settle shortly on a 110Hectare property in "new England region of NSW" for just 50k..... original asking price was 94k..... No harm in asking... and let me tell you its the law that any official offer must be presented to the agent....... Dont expect to simply ask a farmer to sub divide you of a few acears in many many councils the minimal lot size is normally rather large to stop this (500acears or so) and all the smaller lots where divided before 2002. Here are some to get your brain clicking: http://www.cheapcoun...y/1/default.asp PILLIGA half acre $4950 PILLIGA Lot 5 Walgett Street Half acre Building block with builders pole and water in small country town about 20 minutes Wee Waa or 45 mins Narrabri. Yes that's FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS (not including stamp duty... etc) so as you can see above anything is really possible..... Just remember that this is the real world and in the real world there is ALOT of redtape to keep people like "us/you" out of the system of owning property. expect many council fee's in building permits, draftman fee's, inspections, meeting building codes and standards, owner builder license, duel occupancy problems...... etc you simply cant just go and build a stick hut slap some mud on it and start squatting there.. sorry correction on the above you can but its not the right way to go about it and you risk losing all your hard work, as much as i wish that i could simply squat on a beach im to much of a girlscout to actually try it, and i spouse most of us are the same + my wife simply wont let me 0_o... you can live in a shed in most councils for up to 12months.( that can be extended on application) If you really want to live self sufficient, you will find a way, be it squatting under common law or years of red tape ;) Apparently at the end of next month there is a expo where many councils/ shires are pushing to change the duel occupancy rule both ways depending on shire, 1 shire will allow compelate separate duel occupancy's and the other shire 40min away will only allow them attached, so if your plan was to have friends live in your "comune" then you would need to check the above. In regards to your question i think a small cob + strawbail cottage on a 5k block will come in under 10k ;) All your equipment / furniture / random building materials can be found on craigslist/gumtree for free or very cheap. or lash out on a house and land package here IN AUSTRALIA for $14,000 .... http://www.cheapcoun...352/default.asp hang on with the first home buyers grant that makes the above property free 0_o....??? Btw dont get me wrong im all for squatting and common law i really would love to see people do that, but persioanly myself after weighing up the cons and pros i found squatting and fighting the man to be to hard in the end.... regardless if its right or wrong. here is a fun interesting property, i assume the tanks are underground?.... $14k BOMB SHELTER BUY IN ANYONE!!!! 57-59 STATION STREET Three Old Fuel Bowsers Three Fuel Tanks ,Service Pit Toilet Block 2 toilets septic tank 2415m2 four blocks of land Huge Concrete slab which is ideal to put large shed on, Ok to build Power phone water available Not been used as fuel outlet for five years. http://www.cheapcoun...305/default.asp (and by bomb shelter i mean secret mad scientist laboratory) If you managed to read this fair ill give you another small secret, research "Russel Island" in Brisbane, its only 40min from the city and you should be able to get a large block for 20k maybe even lower with negotiation, you get the best of ALL worlds, city and country and beach and island ><, just make sure to buy above sea level >< http://www.russellis...rty/details/367 I know not much i have said has been over 1acre but still a start is a start... start with offering every agent on every property here 10k http://www.realestate.com.au/buy/size-+4046-between-50000-50000/list-1?source=refinements Best of luck!! Cant wait to see what you buy -V

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mo worrys, guys, my offer stands, and i tool Naga's offer And in its place i offer..... VVVVV Brugsmania Versicolor cutting ($20 value) & 150 Ololiuhqui | Rivea corymbosa seeds freshly picked from the vine, cant get fresher (http://www.shaman-au...showtopic=29268) ($50) and some Peruvian torch seedlings, perfect size for grafting. ($20) VVVVV Value = 90$

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EDIT: WAITING ON TRIPIS, SEEMS NAGA NAGA MAY NOT OF SENT ITEM SO TRIPIS SAID HE IS OPTING OUT? 0_o "Posted 09 December 2010 - 06:50 PM" BUMP!! Ill take it Tripis, if you are still around ^_^ I assume they would all be read / used by now?? or off or out of date or something 0_o the cultures i mean? if not ill take: Pleurotus tuberregium Pleurotus pulmonarius Pleurotus_eryngii Cordyceps militaris Otherwise i dont mind send me what you like >< And in its place i offer..... VVVVV Brugsmania Versicolor cutting ($20 value) & 150 Ololiuhqui | Rivea corymbosa seeds freshly picked from the vine, cant get fresher (http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=29268) ($50) and some Peruvian torch seedlings, perfect size for grafting. ($20) VVVVV Value = 90$

My Rivea corymbosa (Sorry about title of thread, originaly this was a ID thread save making a new post i just added to it, the life cycle of my plant) is flowering, im so exited, I grew it from seed only about 20months ago and its flowering already, I am rather happy about that Is that normal? IF i remember correctly they are ment to take years to flower? Here are some pic's: From this a year or so ago... http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/uploads_gallery/1301368879/med_gallery_6737_328_360279.jpg To This today... Another one i planted at the same time from seed, didnt quite take off..... (EDIT: This is a seedling i planted at the same time, both were raised in posts this one just seemed to not grow..) Any idea's why 1 grows fantastically and the other just dwarfed? They were practically in the same environments until 1 year ago, the dwarf one has growth around the base that looks like cactus pups 0_o I am postivie its Rivea corymbosa but maybe it was Argyreia nervosa anyway to tell other then waiting for flowers? What organic fertilizer can i give it to help flower / fruit , etc? Used coffee grounds? The QLD weather must of been perfect conditions lately, all i have done is give it a heavy dose of cow poo every now and then. -Vual

awesome thread!! Count me in, whats the date of judgment!! Dosnt matter if its unedible and so pumped with water it looks like a giant ballon??? (having some troubles with paypal, if someone wants to send me some Atlanta pumpkin seeds for a trade ill send some rivera seeds back, pm me)