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what is meant by radicle of seed? and lotus heart? is the the embryo? also, what part of the plant is the photograph at the top of?

Friendly, I was not aware you were the proprieter of omchi. I sent a question to the contact posted on the site, and figured that was the last i would see of that. quote: Wild N. nucifera do not grow in New York. The climate is too cold.Thats what i thought (it pretty much goes without saying for almost all of the "Austrailian natives" up here in northeast US), but then i found this info from here , a government site. I shouldnt be terribly suprised that its false . Let me ask you one question though... The seeds posted at your site, for 25/LB and 40/Ki - are they the ones that are viable, or do you sell others? If so, whats the $?Im not sure if any of this is inappropriate for the site, but if so, PM me with the details. Thanks again.

HAHA- thats messed up - I just found out they grow wild in new york, who'da thunk it? - bout to start an expidition

BTW, look up Dr. Duke - Nuciferine is in the seed and leaf of N. nucifera - and nornuciferine is also in the leaves. Other more likely possibilities for psychoactivity (other than those two) are 1-(P-HYDROXYBENZYL)-6,7-DIHYDROXY-1,2,3,4-TETRAHYDROISOQUINOLINE, 2-HYDROXY-1-METHOXYAPORPHINE, DEHYDRONUCIFERINE ,PRONUCIFERINE , and good ole tryptophan.

yes, ive been looking at them too. I believe those are "plum flower" brand seeds on account of the prices, being exactly the same. Ive asked all who sell this brand (and the people at omchi) wether of not they may be grown (that is what viable means?). Ive gotten no response, so untuil i get one, im taking that as a big fat NO. However, "Plum flower" sells stamens in bulk - if torsten is correct on his assesment of the potency (wether it be nuciferine or any of the sevral dozen constitutents of sacred lotus) it would be a prime source for exraction.

Although im sure SAB seeds are viabile, they are also quite expensive in comparison to many other companies, plus i do live in the united states and the shipping would be astronomical for just about anything. But even w/out the shipping, and with the currency conversion, the domestic prices ($2.50 for 10, best i can find for viable seeds) are much lower...and im poor, quite poor. Beyond the lilly/lotus issue (ive read from various sources that n. nucifera and n. noutchali are both lotuses and both are water lillies, but i do believe you on that) im familiar with all the rest of that information. But you failed to mention stamen! Torsten has mention a high nuciferne content in the stamens, but ive not found anything concrete on that (TLC analysis, and whatnot). But you neglected to comment on the various strains, and wether they differ in potency - i have found nothing on that. But im most interested in the info on "Plum Flower" brand lotus (n. nucifera) seeds, as they are sold as "whole seeds", and organic, not containing sulfides. The "Whole" part, and the fact that they are advertised as being "an alternative to cannabis" (which i know they are not,being more of an alternative to illegal opiates or sedatives). If anybody has purchased these for eating, could you tell me if the bitter embryo is intact? If any body has purchased these for growing, did it work? thanks

Has anybody used these? Can they be grown, or are they strictly for eating (lotus fruit)? also, i ran into this link - do all these lillies differ in potency?

Id use filter paper, for sure. It should do the job just fine. Filter paper of paper towels. I did paper towel chromatography in fourth grade - it took me tuil two years ago to realise i knew what chromatography was, and that i had done it. hahaha - good luck man.

I dont have much of an idea about most of that stuff either - ive just picked up bits and peices. What are you using it for,if you dont mind me asking? If your trying to seperate something like a plant extract, id go with column chromatography unless your just analyzing the fractions. If your just researching, go paper or tlc. If you want a usuable product when your done, go column.

quote: 1)Why would i want to use silica gel chrom. vs Paper chrom Paper chromatography can usually only seperate very small amounts. Not really good for commercial applications. quote: 2) Chrom paper is expensive. Like bacteriological grade agar vs food grade agar (10x less the price) - are plain filter papers (10x less the price) suitable for kitchen tek chromatography experiments Filter paper,papers towels, tissue paper - try em all, its not like its a crippling expense. Ideally, your looking for the highest %age cellulose content, and youll probably have to experiment to find it. Maybe try microscale column chromatography. Heres a couple of good Teks. Expiremental Salvia Info Chromatography Procedure All the start up materials are recyclable, so enjoy!

ya know valium comes naturally from potatoes? its true, diazepam and nordiazepam too. funny, right?

Heres a picture of the salvia liquor - the one with the salvia label on it. Its not from mexico, its from spain - but sold on the internet.

quote:The TC protocol for Mitragyna speciosa was developed here and is awaiting publication. Do you have any idea when it will be published? Thanks

there's a sage liquor like absinthe in mexico.