folias

that's good to hear Darklight!...thanks for posting this info. Julian.

>Acacia Simplex/Simplicifolia Interested if you could see if you could find out any information about this tree in particular...especially seeding times and habitat in these islands (including fiji!) I have drawings of what this tree looks like, if you would like I can send them to you. Have a good trip! Julian.

I could be completely wrong...but I think this may be the vine growing in Australia that is said to contain beta carbolines and DMT... I was telling torsten about this....and had the exact name written down somewhere, which I have misplaced somewhere and I think this is it! This is from Pharmacotheon, by Jonathan Ott and the reference is very briefly mentioned, in, I think the beta carbolines section. Julian.

there may be magic loss....there may not be either! I think it often may depend on the specific plants...whatever, the case, your plant materials will still contain active alkaloids. Julian.

Well, I sign on off on all posts as my real name, so that people know what my real name is and not some throwaway id...anyone who calls me 'carpe' (short for carpedmt) is generally a dickhead, a dickhead I tell you! Interestingly, on oztrance (one of the most throwaway depersonalised board I've posted to), there appears to be some resentment of associating some human name in all this...like one is a grand egotist for thinking anyone cares at all what your real name is! Julian.

Unfortunately for us in Australia, it looks like flip is based in the U.S., going on the newspaper the plant is laying upon! This plant only just seems to have become available in the U.S. (going on aya.com reports) at a reasonable price...a while back there were some people charging like $500 US a plant as I recall! Seeds of this species are VERY hard to come by...and we all know how difficult it is to get cuttings into Australia.... Julian.

gosh it was cold! I always enjoy the morning sets best...starting with luke psywalker, franny and then beka...really, really good to be out there! Didn't see you anywhere reville! Julian.

definately going! I don't think a lot of us realise how good we got it in this country! Also, franny is dj'ing last in the morning...I'd go all the way out just to see him really! Julian.

The strange thing is that entheogenesis is the name of an international Australian conference some people were planning a few years ago... Julian.

Is the teenage girl called Yoshimi? Have you been listening to The Flaming Lips on K? http://www.theflaminglips.com And now Creach looks like Wayne from the lips...or Frank Zappa...? Julian.

quote: In the *1995* editiong of "Rare or threatened plants" A.phlebophylla is listed 2RCa, so it was already at the time regarded as rare. It doesn't take an Einstein to work out that this plant is not secure. David was surprised about this when he told me it was only officially listed as being only rare, but told me of the botanist, and the research this botanist had done on this plant, apparently led him to this conclusion that it was not endandered. Julian.

quote: I would most certainly be concerned abot harvesting any endangered material. There is plenty of evidence of this in my arguments with Julian Even at a personal level, but most certainly at a commercial level. Interesting aside...Phlebophylla before the fires was not listed as endangered. Apparently, the botanist in charge of these listings spent a lot of time researching the species first hand and after this investigation concluded the species was not endangered and did not deserve to be listed as such. I wish you well with this mission Torsten...make sure to bring 48 lithium backup batteries for the GPS's and 6 extra compasses! ;-) I smoked pituiri for a few days after a really heavy experience...the plant helped freshen and warm me back into an alignment in a way that tobacco only indicates... I think that this plant has the potential to open the way for many new avenues of understanding and learning... Julian.

I've been hanging out with a lot of Newcastle crew recently...and it almost seems at times they are all part of a cult called "Mousemoon" which happens to be a band playing at Mardi Grass...they're very good, perhaps not great, but definately fresh, consciously theatrically trippily funny and I've heard very decent folks too. Julian.

I've been giving people the Silica Hydride capsules for months now and everyone gives them huge big thumbs up! I love them...I have found nothing more powerful to wake me up, feel refreshed and uplifted...if its all psychosomatic/placebo, long live the placebo! And I wish I'd found a better placebo alternative earlier ;-) Look at the site, I think there's more to it than meets the eyes. Patrick Flanagan is a champ...the neurophone is an incredible invention, I've never used one, but have friends who have owned them...you can listen to music through your nervous system...it took the dude decades to even get a patent for it, because they couldn't believe it was real! a big btw, the phlebophyllas are coming up in droves! I will have photos up in a few weeks when I have made a large report on many different species I am testing. Julian.

I reckon it would have been 1.4b, rather than GHB...which is kind of exotic and more expensive these days...whereas 1.4b seems to be quite prevalent! Julian.

Darklight, this is something that comes up in relation to the phlebs...silica hydride. http://www.phisciences.com/megah.html I have not encountered anything of this sort of benefit for the human organism, ever as this kind of supplement. It's the PERFECT comedown, energy boost supplement and the body assimilates it very well...the effect really is of a fresh mountain streaming cleaning out one's blood. Maybe the phlebs need some negative ion/antioxidant action?...I'll do some tests soon with this. Wouldn't do any harm I'd say! Julian. [ 06. February 2004, 09:58: Message edited by: folias ]

I both nick and soak. I don't put them in boiling hot water, but wait five minutes or so and then soak them for 12 or so hours. I don't know if they really need to puff up then as an indication they are ready. I water the medium twice a day until they come up... I have experimented with different mediums, just to see for myself, and sandy mediums seem the best. For the next round of obtuses I am growing, I am going to be using 80% sand, and 20% of the soil from around the bottom of obtuses. Interestingly, the soil around the bottom contains little bits of what looks like silica, almost literally like little diamonds...they are very abundant and not present in the soil away from the trees as far as I can tell! I have two phlebs growing which are about nine months old...I have about 200 seeds left and would only grow them in ideal conditions, near Mt Buffalo, perhaps when more research and experimentation has been done...I am aware of other individuals with similar sized seed banks. Mine is only about a year old... I have distributed seeds all over the world...just to see if anyone can grow them, at least most of these people have not got back to me - some of the phlebs have come up and then died very shortly afterwards! Even really experienced super gardeners seem to have a great dea of difficulty with them! Someone by email on behalf of Trout said to give him some, and when I offered them to him in person, he very honestly said he didn't feel qualified or knowledgable enough to grow them! Julian.

Around Sydney and south of Sydney, even coming into Victoria, there are the usually quite shrubby obutisfolias which are quite prevalent and often contain 0.6%+ tryptamine content I have been told. There is a small stand of Obtusifolias, about 50 trees I'm told just outside of Melbourne. I don't know where they are...but know people who do! As for trees in Victoria with humanly useful tryptamine content, I'm going to have a close look when I there in early feb...but don't have high hopes frankly! Julian.

I've noticed this gnomeless attitude increasing on other forums as well recently... can't say that anything I have written should be a good example to anyone with this kind of thing ;-) However, I think some level of discretion and care is mostly in the fabric of the post, rather than in simple FOAFS, gnomes and other general disclaimers. Julian.

I too have noticed a more lax attitude... One can only assume sites like these are being read by people in various government agencies, to gauge trends and understand how people are thinking approaching plants/substances. I very much doubt if actual infringements of plant/substance law are followed up through these forums...it's just not worth anyone's time or energy I wouldn't think. I personally think it is important to be precise in one's communication, information is power, and we are communicing to each mostly here... And yet I think we must be discrete if the plants that one are growing/utilising are scheduled or listed in some way.... Gnomes are a silly way of going abou this I think, but third person ways of going about things, such as, 'the kratom tree was fed into the lawnmower as a shredder'! is probably a cleaner method, without shuddery sexual undertones of gnomedom... Julian.

If you grow a tree, it would take 3 years plus for it to be harvestable and even then you would have to hurt the tree... I don't know of any species of acacia from which one can extract from the phyllodes and obtain a really useable product...people tell me that maidenii phyllodes can contain .5% but I haven't come across this sub-species which contains this. Vandalism is flattening whole forrests of ancient trees hundreds of years old selling the wood for 7 cents a tonne...this still commonly happens in the world. Generally quite conscious tryptamine lovers going out and taking the bark from occaisonal trees is nothing but a speck in the scheme of things. The payoff or magnitude in the human schema is worth the sacrifice, otherwise it often wouldn't be done... DMT would simply would not be available in Austalia unless people were prepared to do this...lets hope enough people get their shit together to ensure that sustainable tryptamine harvesting is made possible. Julian.

what is being experienced sounds like sub-threshold experiences of smoked dmt which have their own effects and states which are often quite bodily and not as 'full on' as a breaththrough experience. Some people may need upwards of 100mg + in one smoking dose to really breakthrough... Julian.

I think I can say that without a doubt, Australian men are some of the most immature and emotionally undeveloped men on the planet! I'd say Daniel and I (and I'm sure many people here) would say they are in fact, almost generated as a response against the usual bullshit, Australian machismo of programming... It's just a front...with VERY little depth or substance...some of us then in response to that, are obliged to seek to develope or swim in those waters of interpersonality of what is considered a mystery, but which I think is always known. The masculine to masculine inter personal means are I think really, really undeveloped...there's a lot of denial and a lot of repression EVERYWHERE, and I often think it's largely to do with this male to male repression. Of man not really being able to face what man is in his completeness. I'd even see Australia's typically proposed gay culture as representing a kind of icongraphicaly limited repression of the real meeting that could occur between men! Julian.

I stand corrected, I have a friend who they used to call the trip master... http://www.vhood.net/drj Daniel kicks my butt when he's straight...he doesn't need anything these days! Julian.

This is a weird thing...or not really a weird thing. When I think of people who I know, or who I have met, who can really GO THERE, most all of them are women. Personally, I really have not met a man who has actually met me in these realities...whereas I know about half a dozen women, who can and do kick my butt! I think its largely because men, are more disconnected from the fluidity of the emotional body, through which vaster realities can come through...and so more prone to attempting to seek...or create a structure out of all this. Behind the phalluses and warfare and endeavours of thinking, men are really such pussies! There are some super sisters out there, I think they just don't tend to be overly concerned about the geeky side of all this... Julian.