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Nice work man! Great to get more open minds thinking about all the aspects of the plants we love. Well done condensing a few thought provoking ideas into a mainstream and respected publicaton. Always thought this was cool BTW:

Torrent: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4854328/Be...in_Addict__2009 Any problems let me know and I'll upload the recording I made.

Spoons, it's a good idea, but there are a few issues. The main one is that the difference in spore colour might be misrepresented on many peoples monitors. Unless the original capture is perfectly white balanced, and the viewers' monitor is perfectly white balanced, the colours won't be accurate. You could argue that the difference between the colour of two spore prints will always be the same, but that doesn't represent the colour well. I'm not suggesting we shouldn't do what you have suggested, just that it's easy to be mislead. The reality is that such a thread is primarily going to be used by those to lazy to use the search function. All of the information that would go into such a thread already exists on this forum to be found. My point is that if such a thread is created, it needs to be a detailed definitive guide that covers all aspects so as to educate and inform aforementioned lazy shroomers beyond a simple ID.

Depleting serotonin sure won't help... I don't agree that you 'only need small amounts of respect'. You might feel right now that a little would be all you need, but it's important to all of us that the love and respect we offer is reciprocated in full. In simple terms: too much and we feel smothered, too little and we feel unloved. If you are getting too little there is a reason, perhaps a very complex reason(s) that has taken time to develop? You mention that you aren't lazy or selfish, and I don't disagree with you, but we all have different views of what that actually means. You might think you're doing all you can, and you probably are, because you haven't been told that tiny little (seemingly insignificant) thing you should be doing... because she 'will not communicate with me on any level about relationship issues'. Of course it's likely more complex than that on the surface. We all seem to take a very introverted view of situations like this and allow ourselves to become the focus, it's logical, but it's to our detriment. IMO you need to take time to get your mind straight and understand what's going on, then you can address some of those thoughts yourself, and maybe with your partner given time. If 'the last 12 months have been hell' for you, they have for those around you too, possibly more so.

Cmon Hunab, that's unnecessarily patronising. His age is not relevant, and his comment is. I'm closer to your age and it was my first thought too. Many of the comments you have made through the thread indicate to me that your relationships have not reciprocated love and respect, or many of the other basics of a solid nurturing satisfying relationship. That's not to say that you are or aren't the cause... always two sides, and you're the only one with an honest insight to the answer.

I agree with the sentiments of both posts above. My wife is everything.

Already got it qued up so if it's a PiTA for anyone I'll upload it... lemme know. Hope all's well faustus, really greatful for the camp side discussions.

Dude! Awesome link, thanks so much

I can highly recommend the company you have linked to. FOAF bought from them a few months back and they were great. The jars you want are the wide mouth jars. Make sure the lids are correct size, and get extra rings too. Plastic lids can be helpful.

Nothing wrong with that. The community would rather support those unsure by helping out with IDs whenever possible, indeed given the response rate to ID requests it seems to be a pretty successful system. That's not to say that a positive ID or two means you should chow down on your find of course... I would rather trust my own judgement than trust someone elses... I personally think the ID section should be a last resort in a way; by which I mean that those requesting the ID should already have the knowledge to be confident themselves that they have the right shroom. The truth is that in regards to identifying Subs, a picture and description is not accurate. I know we all have to start somewhere, and for me that somewhere was here too; but I know I have been much more cautious and informed than others who have posted requesting IDs. Some of the ID requests are so far from the desired specimen it's shocking I guess that in itself demonstrates the need for better info on subs. It's all here already, but people are lazy and can't be bothered searching... More info on Sub ID is a great idea, it all helps.

Thanks smokeydaze, yeah that's exactly the sort of info I'm after. Can anyone comment on duration when consumed orally in this manner? I presume the pattern of onset peak and decline is similar to an acid or mushroom trip?

Great link thanks

Really impressive man - well done. Awesome to have such a handy patch, and they look so damn cute! Were you expecting them to pop up or did it sorta come as a surprise? Think if I wandered down the back yard and saw that going on I'd go mental with excitement; I mean I know you made the bed of chips and so on, but to see it actually work in the end is awesome! Enjoy

Would be great to hear more about options for consumption, especially in relation to spice derived from acacia. Maybe I'm not looking in the right places or something, but I'm finding it a hard thing to get substantial or reliable information about it. I've picked up great info talking face to face with people, but not so much online... I presume there is some sort of method of consumption or preparation that is ayahuasca like?

Righto well I'm pulling out cause there's no one going. Gonna have me some shit hot fun at home instead (minus the shisha...) Hope you get better soon Hillbilly, shit going around ATM isn't fun.

I'm not 100% sure it applies to subs, but yes I know what you're talking about and I'm also pretty sure your spelling is correct. Looks like this: (edit embedded image doesn't work so here's the link) http://files.shroomery.org/files/07-004/998580991-Separable_gelatinous_pellicle.jpg But as you mention is often easier to see by carefully splitting from outside of cap to centre. In regards to drying, my comment in another thread (that I think you might be referring to) where I suggested using the oven is not about heat, only using it as a source of a fan (assuming your oven is fan forced). If you can't set your oven to a low temp, don't use it - your subs will be destroyed! The movement of air that a fan provides will speed up drying time a great deal. Fast dry time is especially important for subs (amongst other mushrooms) because of the bugs and larvae that will likely be present. Awesome find BTW.

Stunning collection man, not to mention inspiring! Thanks for sharing. Great to see so many so well cared for, must feel good to wander past through the course of the day and say hello!

Not at all - nice way to spend an evening! Thanks for your reply. I guess I skipped your first step and went straight to the better corrugated cardboard. Seems to have progressed well, but it seems it might benefit from a little organic matter... makes sense. Will see if I can find some appropriate stuffs in the next few days. Thanks again.

Really nice work DN! Hope you find your camera soon, would be great to see your fruits! I'm at the first stage of the images you have shown here. The spread of the myc doesn't seem to be traveling so well as it did in the first few weeks though... any advice? Do I need to add some organic matter or nutrients for it to go further?

I know I'm heading up this weekend. Might not be camping, not sure at this stage - like most of you it depends how the week pans out... but I gotta get back up for some Milk Caps if nothing else!

From what I have seen for myself of Fly Agaric consumption, boiling in water for an hour or two is enough for the conversion to happen... probably don't even need that much, but better to be on the safe side with this sort of thing You could always dry, then boil a brew later with the dried fruit, strain and discard the muck and drink the liquid. Don't think I'd want to eat dried Amanitas anyway.

I don't think the black is so much from frost as from the sun. I've personally only seen it twice. If you put a sub in direct sunlight it will get black really quickly. I think what tends to happen is the subs are subjected to the warmth and light of the late afternoon sun very briefly before it falls below the hills and the temp drops down again. This brief window of heat/light isn't quite enough to destroy them, but shocks and discolors the outer flesh, then the sudden drop in temp allows them to recover and try to keep growing/opening up. That's why you'll often see that one small section of the cap is less affected, the side more protected from the sun. Just a theory...

It has been done before. There seems to be a lot of confusion about human urine/reindeer urine. To set things straight, many countries use Reindeer as working animals or farmed stock (Siberia for example). Obviously through the course of daily work, the herders need to urinate. Regardless of having eaten Fly Agaric or not, the reindeer will eat the area of urine drenched snow because of the mineral content of the urine. I've seen footage of reindeer following a herder away from the pack because they know one of the few times a herder leaves the pack is to urinate; they don't want to miss the opportunity for nutrients. Reindeer in other countries wouldn't be the least bit interested in drinking urine, because they have no biological need for it. It's a bit like the herders in these areas having a strict meat, fat, blood diet but keeping low cholesterol levels and generally being very healthy; their bodies are used to and need that diet to survive. For one of us to tuck into a side of raw frozen whale meat & blubber would be unpalatable, because our bodies have no desire for that type of food. So yes, some reindeer may eat snow that has urine containing muscimol, but I don't think it is specifically due to the muscimol itself. I certainly haven't heard of humans drinking reindeer urine though. In regards to humans consuming human urine containing muscimol, there are many stories, but AFAIK none proven. It is true that muscimol does travel through the human body and is excreted unchanged in the urine, decreasing slightly in potency with each concurrent "recycling". It is said that during shamanic rituals, people would drink the urine of the shaman to feel the effects of muscimol. I don't find that hard to believe at all, but have never read or seen anything definitive to prove it.

Oh shit sorry, I'm so used to seeing people asking about Subs I kinda missed the Fly Agaric part of your question. Drying is fine anyway you do it, but in the case of Fly Agaric as neoshaman pointed out you do have to treat with heat somehow anyway for the conversion to happen. I'm not sure what sort of temperature is required for the ibotenic acid to muscimol conversion... worth checking to ensure the conversion happens!

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