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  3. Posted · Edited by mutant

    seems you are again correct for elongata types, it can have pinkish flower..

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    what about this? its rather small to flower at this small age, flowers are also very tiny..

    I have mammi hahniana/woodsii for many years, but its not it I think..

    also the 1st plant of post #12 must be from the rectangular sector of mammis..

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    for all we know, the middle one, seems like a true lamellosus, while the left one seems like what could be a lamellosus hybrid, encorporating the stripe in the petals, but not loose the purplishness of the flower

  6. Posted

    pantherinas are very common here, but I read its not like this in other parts of europe and what not.. I think they're pretty common in oak and mixed woods of all southern europe...

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    Interesting , yeah that first one was from a collector, so transgenic hybrids are possible in this cluster?

    what about this one.. ??? I have it for some 5-6 years, grew it from a small segment . It hasn't ever been repotted or flowered as far as I have seen...

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  10. Posted

    Hostilis>

    Like with many cacti when young but even when older, buds might be aborted because the plant could not carry it out for some reason.

    IME if the flower is to be made, it will need direct sunlight or very bright spot to fully open the flower to its most beautifull and perhaps pollinateable.

    But perhaps many hours of direct light might cause soil to dry up too fast not allowing the plant to support some buds.

    Larger established plants seem to not have problem with this even in extreme light conditions.

    Mealie bugs some times hit asterias flowers IME causing them to abort, but mealies should be visible at the tip.

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  11. Posted · Edited by mutant

    wert>>

    there little muscarine in A.muscaria actually. Possibly some strains might contain more (US strains?).

    Inocybe sp contain enough to get you seriously ill. Muscarine causes a full on poisoning, so nobody would like to eat it, let alone in piss. Muscimole is what you mean.

    ===

    if someone wants to use less material, one can do what TH said, that is use only the cap surface (scratching off most flesh..)

    BUT be warned

    cap skin > whole cap (w/out stems) > caps + stems together in terms of being intertesting.

    Like I said 0.5 ~1 gram of powder should be enough for use as a flavour enhancer in food..

    PS: Interesting FB page, not joining though, fuck FB

    PS2: My impression (from reports+my exp) is that nausea is not always present. Certain strains seem to cause it more. Maybe nausea is due to muscarine content of some strains and not muscimole/ibo acid. I have never experienced nausea or sore stomach in some 30+ ingestions. The same for 3 pantherina ingestions.

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  13. Posted

    Only it seems to be a cuzcoensis plus there is evidence there's more than one crest strain having been sold from Hammiltons as peruv.

    Plus were did strangebrew find the seed from which watertrade grew? Because that specimens dont look cuzco.

    Being right or wrong in a taxonomy debate is a very naive concept. For me its not about being right or wrong, its about enjoying myself immensly through being passionate about this. What pc ~ non pc debate?

    Incognito, post some pictures, and I might forget you mentioned crest bioess.

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    Youhouuuuu // I am seeing buds in several interesting Trichos that havent yet flowered for me

    pachanoi KK339*

    euro scop

    cordobensis

    some bridgesii

    *(this is the original mother plant from the 10 cm seedling incognito sent me @ ~feb 2008, so its ~9 y.o. from seed, not a bad time considering I have cut lots of cuttings off this mother and that its been in the same pot for ages)

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  16. Posted

    You say you're familiar with phenotypical variation in mushrooms, so you know how much species can vary depending on environment & still be the same species underneath.

    Yep and its really more complicated than this. But in the end of the day thats why we have to be more specific in identifying mushrooms, cause we eat them, thats why we have descriptions of species, to be able to tell, despite the variation.. because more often than not, sizes overlap so we have to study several of the identification traits to be able to draw a conclusion. And at the end, only with experience we are able to be more assured about what we identify.

    In the same mushroom, the sizes may vary dramatically (different wood, elevation, season, etc). Colours , shape and almost all identification characteristics can change for baby , immature, mature, overmature specimens of the same species in the same habitat. Some species vary a lot by themselves in the same habitat. F.e. Russula cyanoxantha, a choice edible can have colours on the cap from dark olive purplish, to greenish blue, to pale greenish, to pale purple even pinkish. Yet with experience, after picking and feeling many ones, we can start distinguishing them more easily from same coloured puplish hot inedible Russula sp growing in the same forest. Expert pickers pick babies for food. They even eat raw wood agaricus babies, while a beginer might confuse a baby Amanita phalloides for a baby agaricus.

    The same species in dry weather or wet weather, the cap surface dry or wettish.. All this stuff play a role in the appearance of the mushroom and there are references in ID books to dryness or wetness. F.e. for Boleti. Boletus edulis has smooth cap suface dry but kinda sticky with some wetness and almost slimy very wet

    A mushroom growing in dense forest might look very different from its brother growing on a soccer field, but if they were the same species I wouldn't call one A. example var. woodland and A. example var. field, because the phenotype probably doesn't represent true genetic variation.

    hehe this is the tricky part: you say "if they were the same species" , but if they are looking different and were found in completely different habitats, then how can we tell that they are the same species? Instinct? With the help of the description of the species, no?

    And by the way, if two mushrooms both have differences in appearance and fruit in another habitat, one would initially think they were a different species, as habitat is an identification point for mushrooms. A soccer/field mushroom would normally not appear in dense forest, but rather in forest margins, forest roads and big forest clearings. A fine example of this is Agaricus sp.

    There's another example. They used to have Cantharellus cibarius var albus, which was the whitish pale phenotype the mushroom sometimes takes.. well after some years when I saw the variety of the fruit bodies (in shape and colour) from season to season, spot to spot, I figured out most vars of Cantharellus cibarius are crap and indeed most or all fell into oblivion ...

    Then sometime, I was picking in a different habitat (different kind of oak), and as I was picking I was thinking these specimens look somewhat different.. Well I went home and read the descrpitions of some other Cantharellus species. It was C.ferruginasens and it was the description of the species that made me conclude so.

    But this mushroom talk was all to prove explain to my pal zelly that I know what a phenotype is and how its linked with the geno.

    So why would you place so much stock in appearance when trying to decide species, and think that a different phenotype necessarily means a distinct genetic variety requiring its own name?

    I never said a different phenotype necessarily means a distinct genetic variety, but I did say that a distinct plant/phenotype might deserve its own name, even in the horticultural sense, and to be honest we already have too much of these names. I did not create them. Some I find justified some others not so much.

    The way to tell for me is the phenotype. And the reason I place all my focus on the appearance, looks, is that I grow almost all of my cacti in the same conditions, with the same more or less substrate... I dont tend to draw concludions when its too small or if I have just got it or if its a bad shape.

    Its really more simple than with mushrooms. You have to grow it out.. New growth is quite telling IMO, but there are other characteristics only observed with time, like maximum spine length and girth, maximum areole size, new spines grown from old areoles , speed of growth, tendency to pup (to mention some stuff relative for trichocereus)

    So are you just trying to ID your crest, or are you looking to define the inter-species variability of trichocereus?

    I have drawn some very interesting preliminary conclusions for my specimens thanks to this thread. But no my quest isn't really about this.. I was trying to do exactly what occured.. discuss this stuff

    My crests are too small to tell, and from what you can see (Swiper + Micoz photos) it will take some 3-4 years to grow them crests out and see.. from the number and size of micoz plants coming from a single cutting, it seems its a fast grower which matches cuzcos fast growth rate..

    In the mean time, it would be cool to see more specimens

  17. Posted · Edited by mutant

    Micoz thanks for the photos, seems like a great clone

    You're still here Zelly? Oh the hypocrisy! Crash on a taxonomy thread to state he doesn't care about taxonomy

    The offspring of a Jack Russell crossed with a mutt is just a mutt.

    bollocks... how do you know , are you a genome expert? :)

    once I fucked a jack russel and the offspring looked exactly like your Trichocereus huanucoensis

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  19. Posted

    FP,

    amanita tea tastes quite differently dependent on what there is in it beside Amanita. With Amanita acting like a flavour enhancer, almost every combination will taste intensely and original for first-timers. Tea with honey and cinnamon is fine.

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  21. Posted

    I remember reading about boiling them 3 times... which has me wondering, if the whole fucking taste goes away (actually they are intensely tasting mushrooms and acting as a flavour enhancer) , why the hell bother to eat them as a meal in the first place.

    dry them instead and use up to half a gram of powder per meal (flavour enhancer use)

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