Teotzlcoatl

HBWR.

At first I thought Coleus was active (I thought everything was active in my younger days) but after much reading and research I've come to believe that it is not used entheogenically or shamanically, perhaps medicinally, but I don't think it's overtly psychoactive. Then why does everyone talk about the Shamans in Mexico using it? Shit I was the one who brought up the fact that is was from Asia... ya probably would have kept propagating the idea that it was native to Mexico had I not come along and said something! Wha... huh? Your way off.

I say leave "macrogonus" out of it.

Ditto. T. peruvianus, T. pachanoi, T. "pachanot", T. cuscoensis, T. bridgesii, etc.

I asked- Are your sure your "Kanna" is the correct species? Response from the owner of Sacred Succulents/B.P.C. -

I'd say "Serra Blue" is a type of "True Blue".

Show me where I mention that please.

Plain leaf from plants you've grown yourself is very very powerful, whether chewed fresh or dried and smoked. I think plain leaf is plenty strong.

Yup, but I think it's a worthy name to use to make the distinction between the Trichocereus cuscoensis variety. If we don't have a diverse vocabulary of distinctive words to speak the language, how can we ever have a decent conversation about these things?

Come along with me It will be $1500-3000 if anybody would like to join the expedition team, this covers all expenses.

It's Trichocereus peruvianus var. "True Blue", there is no such thing as T. macrogonus.

Yeah so no Camphor huh? WTF I'm getting my money back! Got the granules tho....

Thank you Archaea, I totally agree.

I'd also like to add - Live among tribes people for a period of time and learn their ways and culture philosophy. Can y'all tell me more about Bolivia, Ecuador, Brazil and anywhere in Peru that is a good place to go that isn't the "Sacred Valley" region near Cusco (I've been there already). I'm looking for ruins, hikes, etc. but with plant collection, learning about the culture and getting off the beaten path in mind. Perhaps I should get on a travel forum...

Tell me more about this please. I updated the 1st post and am looking for more suggestions!

Yeah exactly.

If you say it's active Archaea, then that is enough proof for me. It need to be something more than just a "mild" whatever, I want REAL psychoactive effects, whatever they may be.

Prove Coleus is active and I'll send you a plant and some $$$, this is an open challenge to all!

Yeah please do. Does that mean it has no real Camphor in it? Oh well fuck the oil, I got the pure granules coming in today.

Somebody can ALWAYS edit the title, just ask.

It says 100% C. camphora oil. Fuck... It says "Extraction Method- Fractional distillation of crude decamphoroized oil" WTF that does that mean? It don't sound good...

The Sally D extract we get in the U.S. now will blow your freaking socks off with one hit.

I ate one drop of the oil....

Oh ok I see what your saying, yeah good point. So take like 1mg and wait 12 hours to make sure I'm not allergic or hypersensitive? This is very good advice, thanks!

I did read the whole thing and I'm going to make sure I have a sitter.