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thats about what i thought at best it would give you some nasty shock, it is noradrenaline and i hate IV so i pretty much gave up on the idea of taking it cos i dont think i can be bothered going through the maoi business for an NA hit, ek that doesn't sound as fun as the idea that first entered my head when i saw it available to me... one of the things i was told though was to keep it refrigereated cos it will oxidise in the air- i dunno if this what they called adrenochrome or not (they didn't use the term) but yeah fractal head your references rock- i dunno about sexy but they are good...

yeah thats my next question auxin- i do have pure adrenaline- well noradrenaline (better), off the top of my head i can't remember what molar i have it in its sitting in my freezer (concentration written on the vial). Though i haven't taken it on the basis that i am dubious as to wether this would even be fun? surely its just gonna make my heart beat faster and me wet myself? without the dopamine action why would i possibly want this instead of regular stimulants? - i just got it cos i saw the opportunity so i took it, now i dont think i even really want it... you seem to know your stuff well auxin- what do you do with yourself? biochemist? pharmacoligist? i am studying nueropharmacology- (still studying in case it didn't show )

oh sorry danoz yes the book, yeah i should read it again but i am slack... btw interesting that this thread turned into pharmacology rather than movie review... im pretty sure that if adrenochrome is what i think (an oxidised chatechol derivative) then it is a metabolite of one of the endogenous transmitters that is inactive. I'm almost certain it is inactive- if it is a metabolite then that would pretty much seal it... and i don't think an indole like that would have any effect at a chatecolamanergic synapse anyway- but i ain't quite well enough read...

danozz- i have to watch the movie again but Dr. Gonzo in other Hunter S books refers to his pysche counterpart- he is know as the 'gonzo journalist' for this style writing. The Dr. Gonzo he writes of is based on a (mexican?) friend of his but only so far as the character, i am still under the impression that he means it to be the voice in his head in physical form, but like i said i have to watch the movie again...

auxin- i am very impressed, indeed you are correct and have made me look very foolish but i am still right about it being inactive aren't i?

It's been a while since i've seen the movie too, but after reading great white shark hunt i came to the conlusion that dr gonzo is a fictional character based on a friend of Hunter S. I'm not sure (haven't seen the flick in a long time) but it is my impression that Dr. Gonzo is portrayed as a figment of Hunter's imagination... im pretty sure the only time he speaks is either when he is only in hunters presence/earshot or when there is one other person in the room... the hitchiker thought he was crazy anyway- why would him talking to his imaginary friend add any surprise- the poor christian girl- well... even if should could here dr gonz too- that many entheogens on your first hit and you'll here all kindsa sh*T (not sure of the language restriciotns on this board yet) Also i am not sure about this- have to watch the movie again but doesn't the photographer who comes to there appartment ask who hunter is talking to when observing a convo between gonz and hunter? and i dunno i'm pretty sure im wrong about this one butwas there only one bed in the hotel room?

btw- indole has nothing to do with adrenochrome- adrenochrome is a catechoamine- indolamines are serotonin (5HT), Melatonin, DMT and various other but adrenochrome is certainly not an indole and has very very different effects... basically stim vs hallucinogen

just to give my self some kind of credibility i study nueropharmacology- i am under the understanding that adrenochrome is an oxidated form of addrenaline... with little to no effects if taken exogenously... The unoxidised form- addrenaline is relativly boring exogenously too- mainly bumps up your heart rate a little... Noraddrenaline on the other hand can be reasonably entertaining- be very careful though...

you by any chance got anything else there you haven't posted for various reasons? if you reply here i will get in contact with you over email- i may have something of your interest too...

thanks adonyne- they came out in the 60's i gatherd- your expanation is far better than mine... im not sure if they are the same psilocyin and stropharia- i will have to look into that- being from victoria i thought i'd try some of the local tropical goods- of course not the illegal psilocylin containing ones ... don't know the area very well though figure they'll be around at this time of year if i stumble through a few cow paddocks- ones belonging to friends of course because tresspassing is illegal thanks for the response...

until recently i was unaware stopharia cubensis grew anywhere outside the amazon- upon travelling to brisbane i thought i'd check out the local fauna (as i do whenever i travel ) Apparently my friend triclops has informed me that some hippies bought spores over in the 60's and surprisingly they could grow in QLD- must be the subtropical climate- Anyway this is great news to me as i thought i'd never try the infamous stropharia cubensis until i was able to travel to brazil- unfortunatly due to lack of resources and connections in qld i don't know where to look... anyone with info please message here- obviously you don't wanna give your secret spot away- but i'm sure i could make it worth your while- and living in melbourne- i can't abuse your stock anyway-- would be much appreciated.