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Mycot

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  1. 5 hours ago, SayN said:

     

    Is that it?  To counter one piece of 'propaganda' with simply another piece of 'propaganda' seems naive.

     

    Frankly, the commercial channels ARE toxic - they are largely unwatchable - I think everybody here would agree.  But is your call to de-fund the ABC over it not just misplaced anger? What do you expect of the ABC?  Counter opinion pieces supporting the "brave freedom fighters" like your youtube examples?

     

    Yes

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  2. 11 hours ago, SayN said:

     

    My brain is really struggling here.  Can someone please tell me what this clip has to do with the ABC?

    As the person who made the statement I may be best qualified to answer it.

    That clip illustrates how corporate news no longer has any regard for truth but is merely a lying propaganda machine.

    This applies from 9 News to Skynews, and the ABC is no different, so there is no moral argument for preserving it.


  3. 2 hours ago, fyzygy said:

     

     Political freedoms, for one. 

     

    Speaking of freedoms, I believe there are to be to be major protests across Australia coming Tuesday Aug 31 for those that are interested.

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  4. Thanks for the sentiment cubism and RC,  I appreciate it.

     

    I just lost a lengthy post of reply, after hitting 'Submit Reply.  Fuck it.

     

    Wish all Corroboree members the best (Tripsis too Haha) may we all, both pro-vaxers and anti-vaxers get through all this OK.

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  5. On 11/07/2021 at 4:01 AM, Torsten said:

     

    Just because you don't know it doesn't mean it wasn't researched. The results have been available since july last year.

     

    So it was researched. It doesn't sound like they found much. Perhaps they could research some more.


  6. Giving this thread a heads up.

    There are still gyms out there & they make great pics which everyone totally loves. :)

     

    A bit of gym news ; There was a gym sequenced on Genbank from NT that had the same sequence of G.dilepis, an active species.

     


  7. If Scummo wasn't such a great fuckup, Covid would have been totally eliminated in Australia a year ago, no vaccine needed.

    By monumental stupidity or by design, Australia still struggles with something that lasts no  longer than 2 weeks.

    Don't trust authority, political, scientific or medical..

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  8. 11 hours ago, fyzygy said:

     

    This is the type of discussions we should be having rather than the censorship and single narrative that prevails. Thanks.

     

    Here are a few pieces I took away from that.  From Giorgio Agamben   3 pieces.

     

      Therefore, in a perverse vicious circle, the limitations of freedom imposed by governments are accepted in the name of a desire for safety that was created by the same governments that are now intervening to satisfy it.

     

    Fear is a bad counsellor, but it makes us see many things we pretended not to see. The first thing the wave of panic that’s paralysed the country has clearly shown is that our society no longer believes in anything but naked life. It is evident that Italians are prepared to sacrifice practically everything – normal living conditions, social relations, work, even friendships and religious or political beliefs – to avoid the danger of falling ill. The naked life, and the fear of losing it, is not something that brings men and women together, but something that blinds and separates them. Other human beings, like those in the plague described by Manzoni, are now seen only as potential contaminators to be avoided at all costs or at least to keep at a distance of at least one metre. The dead – our dead – have no right to a funeral and it’s not clear what happens to the corpses of our loved ones. Our fellow humans have been erased and it’s odd that the Churches remain silent on this point. What will human relations become in a country that will be accustomed to living in this way for who knows how long? And what is a society with no other value other than survival?

     

    It’s not surprising that we talk about the virus in terms of a war. The emergency provisions effectively force us to live under a curfew. But a war against an invisible enemy that can nestle in any other human being is the most absurd of wars. It is, to be truthful, a civil war. The enemy isn’t somewhere outside, it’s inside us.

    What’s worrying in not so much the present, not only the present a tleast, but the aftermath. In the same way as the legacies of wars on peacetime have included a whole range of nefarious technologies, from barbed wire to nuclear plants, so it is very likely that there will be attempts to carry on pursuing, even after the medical emergency is over, many of the experiments governments hadn’t been able to implement: may universities and schools remain shut, with lessons and lectures taking place online, may an end be put once and for all to meetings and gathering to talk about political and cultural questions, may we only exchange digital messages and may wherever possible machines replace any contact – any contagion – between human beings.

     

    From Sergio Benvenuto  2 pieces

     

    There are more politics in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

     

    and

     

    After all, the effects of this epidemic will strengthen a tendency that would have in any case prevailed, and of which “working remotely” or “wfh”, working from home and avoiding the office, is only one aspect. It will be less and less common for us to wake up in the morning and board public or private vehicles to reach the workplace; more and more we will work on our computers from our homes, which will also become our offices. And thanks to the Amazon and Netflix revolutions, we will no longer need to go out to do the shopping or to theatres to see movies, nor to buy books in bookshops: stores and bookshops (alas) will disappear and everything will be done from home. Life will become “hearhted” or “homeized” (we already need to start thinking up neologisms). Schools too will disappear: with the use of devices like Skype, students will be able to attend their teachers’ lessons from home. This generalized seclusion caused by the epidemic (or rather, by attempts to prevent it) will become our habitual way of life.

     

    In relation to the above two authors,  we were speaking of isolation earlier.  This is isolation to perverse and insane degree.

     

     

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  9. 12 hours ago, enthearch108 said:

    Very proud of the Cuban's exemplary medical system creating the abdala vaccine. anti-vaxxers should lobby the government to get their dose donated to people in other countries who want it where people are dying by the thousands (like India).

     

    It's not up to "anti-vaxxers"  to do anything of the sort.  If the gov has more than what is wanted then it can send surpluses to other country's.


  10. 22 hours ago, Freakosystem said:

    I'm not pro-big-pharma. I don't like their immunity to consequences. I don't think they act in the best interest of public health. I do believe their motivations are purely monetary. I do think these vaccines were rushed and I do think there's propaganda on pro-vaccine as well as anti-vac sides of the argument.

     

     

    As with big-pharma so with governments.  Your health is not the uppermost thing on their minds.


  11. 36 minutes ago, fyzygy said:

    Vaccination is one strategy for dealing with viral outbreaks. It is by no means the only strategy, just the ready-to-hand "no-brainer" that promises to revive a moribund global economy. I see vaccination as primarily an economic, rather than a public-health intervention. Greg Hunt and ScoMo used it as a political smokescreen from Day One. We all have a right (if not a duty) to be skeptical. 

    Health practitioners and scientists cannot speak to the ethics of western biomedical research and development. They are too enmeshed in their own disciplines, and seldom formally instructed in more holistic approaches. 

    Contemporary virology and immunology are both predicated on human and animal suffering. I left clues to this in a previous post. But despite the "safety" and "efficacy" of the various vaccines, I am yet to hear the slightest detail of their respective bioethical credentials. 

    We could learn a lot from Covid-19, but instead we see it as entirely Other, an enemy to be defeated at any cost -- and that's a glaring defect of western culture more broadly. 

    For me it's a matter of ethical and political choice. A pox on anyone who discounts these fundamental freedoms "in the name of" X, Y or Z. But I would certainly not deny the right of others to participate, if that's their preference. Neither would I criticise (let alone condemn) such an eminently personal decision. 

    We still have much to learn from Covid-19: about sustainable politics, economics, and bioethics, for starters. 

     

     

     

     

     

    I agree we could learn a lot.  But it seems they have yet to figure out why many are asymptomatic and others suffer badly or shown any interest in this.

    It's one of the first things that should have been studied.


  12. 3 hours ago, tripsis said:

     

    Congratulations. However, not everyone does,

     nor superior, to those you judge around you.

     

     

    Thank you, I answered the question for myself as requested. Everyone is not my concern.

    If we are so concerned about the welfare of everybody then perhaps they could stop destroying the planet and make greed illegal.

     

    The rest of your  post is pure BS from Mr Judgement himself.

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  13. I believe one must be clear in ones mind as to why one may chose vaccination.

     

    Fear of death ?

    Fear of "Long term Covid" ?

    So filled with the constant media barrage with its fearmongering that one is unable to think straight  ?

    You're going to be badgered into doing it anyhow ?

    Other ?

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