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  1. https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2019/11/20/house-panel-approves-marijuana-decriminalization-bill/#655f3684756c

     

    A Congressional committee approved a landmark bill Wednesday that would decriminalize and tax marijuana on the federal level⁠—but it’s unclear whether or when the House will vote on it and whether it could ever pass a Republican-controlled Senate. 

     

    And a little more news of... well, nothing really. Except it's all still unclear.

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  2. 39 minutes ago, Responsible Choice said:

    but I'm sure we've got more than enough fuckwits in government here in Oz that'll all give it a solid nudge anyway :wink:

     

    Yeah, Oz doesn't have Wall Street incentivizing our government like in the US. I think it'll most likely be the financial sector which pushes this over the line here as well though. Money is their god and Cannabis means money.

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  3. On 13/10/2019 at 7:24 PM, sharxx101 said:

    It also showed the ridiclous cost of cannabis oil for medi can patients supplied by the health system. The whole system needs an overhaul now.

     

     

    I made some observations about this well before medicinal became legal. I spent a bit of time sitting in the back of meetings between the group of doctors, lawyers and other advocates for legalization and various reps from the NSW, QLD and Vic governments. It was evident back then, the way they were going to regulate was going to result in exorbitant cost to the patient. They're not going to want to rush to overhaul the system they set up because of the $$. On a brighter note, I've heard whispers there'll be a very big push for adding it to the PBS in the near future, so who knows? But you're definitely right there, sharxxy, it's not just in need of an overhaul, it should never have been put in place.  

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  4. 6 hours ago, Flux said:

    We do film all our events and James' talk will definitely be up on our Youtube channel sometime after.

    However for those people sharing stories - we will only video people who are okay with being be filmed 

    Ok, that's great. I'll keep an eye out for it. Thanks, Flux. Love ya work. :worship:

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  5. 3 hours ago, Responsible Choice said:

    Not cannabis related, and they forgot to mention she drilled a hole in her head once, but still first story on the ABC. What the fuck is going on?!

     

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-05/amanda-fielding-queen-of-psychedelics-beckley-foundation/11543064

     

    From her family home, Amanda Feilding, the Countess of Wemyss and March, has launched an unlikely renaissance: the return of psychedelic research to the mainstream.

     

    Dr Marg Ross, who is leading the study at St Vincent's Hospital in Melbourne, is effusive.

    "We owe Amanda a great deal of gratitude for her advocacy and support. Without it, this type of research may never have been possible."

    She definitely has my gratitude.

     

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  6. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-27/cannabis-reform-happened-in-wa-long-before-the-act/11552294

     

    In WA, Colin Barnett's Liberal government — which included Mr Porter as state attorney-general before he moved to federal politics — repealed the cannabis reforms as part of a "tough on crime" approach in 2011.

     

    It was the culmination of a long Liberal campaign against the laws, introduced under former Labor premier Geoff Gallop.

    "More people than would otherwise have been the case will not only experiment with, but also use or perhaps cultivate cannabis, become addicted, move on to harder drugs and die," Mr Barnett told the WA Parliament in 2003.

    "I know that sounds dramatic, but it is a fact."

     

    FACT - Definition

    something that is known to have happened or to exist, especially something for which proof exists, or about which there is information:

    a thing that is known or proved to be true

     

    Mr  Barnett seems to be confused between what a fact is and purposefully misleading, manipulative bullshit. I don't suppose that really matters a great deal because he dribbled this to parliament; it's not like he said it to the public. And given Mr Porter is now our current federal attorney-general, do ya thinks there is a vewy vewy tiny, wee prospect some battles are still ahead? Ah well, I guess it would get a tad boring without it.

     

     

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  7. Welcome back friend. I didn't know the story behind you vacation, and just had a quick read. Sounds like you got bricked , man. Overjoyed to hear of your return to freedom, though. 

    Peace and Love.

     


  8. 2 minutes ago, Glaukus said:

    The mighty is just amazing. But, it'd want to be at the price.

     

    Yeah, I'd love the Mighty. Maybe one day. 

    3 minutes ago, Glaukus said:

    The boundless is pretty good

     

    I've' looked at the Boundless and spoken to a few folk who've used it and the Solo 2, (which they all prefer). My budget is so tight at the mo, so spending on any is not gonna happen. If I have little win amongst any of the bills, I'd be tempted to go for the Boundless, but I'd probably just put the money aside until I could afford the Solo 2.... By then I might be tempted to wait and save for the Mighty:worship:


  9. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/02/190205090524.htm

    (@ Caster) Does this article reference the study you were looking for? There's quite a few I found, but I haven't looked at all yet.

     

    "The increase was temporary, seeming to last for about a year following legalisation. The combined population of affected areas is 27 million people, suggesting an additional 170 deaths in the first six months after legalisation."

     

    "The results suggest that legalising the sale of cannabis for recreational use can lead to a temporary increase in traffic fatalities in legalising states. This spills over into neighbouring jurisdictions through cross-border sales, trafficking, or cannabis tourists driving back to their state of residence while impaired."

     

     

    Then there's this one.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6710088/

     

    The best data come from the United States, where some jurisdictions have had medical marijuana laws (MML) since the 1990s and legalization of nonmedical use since 2012. In these states, traffic fatalities decreased following the institution of MML and increased following legalization.2,3 The increases lasted no more than a year, averaged an additional 1.1 fatalities per million, and mirrored changes in states without legalization2,3 (Box 1a). A recent Canadian study bolsters these findings. In drivers treated at trauma centres (n = 2318), there was no association between responsibility for the crash and blood Δ-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) levels < 5 ng/mL and only a weak, nonsignificant association with levels ≥ 5 ng/mL (p = 0.35)  (*). (My emphasis)

     

    In other words,  there was no causative association between the presence of THC in a driver's blood and the accident when the levels were below that of possible impairment and only a "weak, nonsignificant" association when levels indicated possible impairment.

    Conclusion

    The past 4 years have brought better quality evidence in 3 important areas. First, there is better evidence that cannabis legalization does not lead to large or sustained increases in traffic accidents.(*) ( My emphasis).Second, there is better evidence of an association between adolescent cannabis use and psychoses. Third, there is better evidence that legalization does not increase adolescent cannabis use. The absence of these feared effects has been accompanied by anticipated positive outcomes: decreased arrests of cannabis users and generated tax revenue.

    It will take a decade or more before we understand the effects of legalization in full. However, not everything about this issue is new. In their comprehensive 1973 report, Gerald Le Dain, Heinz Lehmann and others concluded that the criminalization of cannabis (and nonmedical drug use in general) was a failed policy, aggravating social ills without decreasing use31 (Box 1g). Many consider their analysis still valid.3237

     

     

    I may be being a bit cynical, but I'm thinking the data from these studies might be being "cherry picked" :o to support an argument against legalization. It all depends on how much data and what context one wishes to include when quoting the results. If you wanted to support the notion legalized Cannabis is detrimental to road safety, you could accurately quote that the results demonstrate this... unless you quote all the data. Perhaps I'm being a little further cynical, but an increase of 1.1 fatality for every 1 million in population seems like equating a fart in a stadium to one in a crowded elevator. I'd like to see a study which showed the effects on road safety following the explosion of legal opioid use....

     

    And, of course, the study Caster referred to may be a different data set. 

     

    Not just because I think Cannabis and broccoli are in many ways comparable :lol:, but also because I really like this as an analogy for selectively picking data. 

    https://www.thinkingnutrition.com.au/broccoli-bad-for-you/

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  10. https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomangell/2019/09/19/beto-orourke-proposes-drug-war-reparations-funded-by-marijuana-taxes/#78bc05c91420

     

    "Unlike other contenders who have come around to supporting marijuana legalization in just the past couple of years, the former Texas congressman has long called for ending prohibition—and his new plan in many respects goes further than those rolled out by other campaigns.

    While rival candidates have proposed funding programs to begin repairing the harms of the war on drugs through job training, legal aid, expungement efforts and loans for small marijuana businesses owned by socially and economically disadvantaged individuals, O'Rourke's plan is the first to suggest direct payments to individuals who have been imprisoned on cannabis charges."

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    The first 10 mins of this had me laughing whilst wanting to cry at the same time. What an (un)fortunately appropriate name, Dick Sackler, given the sickening smugness with which he spews his non-responses :puke: 

     

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