Cubism

You've lost me there??? Let's get back to the original purpose of this thread shall we

There is no patronising and judging in my posts Foo. Its called discussion. Discussions work in two directions.

Anyway, rather than derail Matts apology thread any further, I will leave it there. Different strokes for different folks.

So foo......you've never been in a position requiring you to ask for forgiveness, or atone for your mistakes? Never lied (ever)? Never been caught out? I'd rather be compassionate and be disappointed, than be harsh and negative. But thats just me. Your entitled to behave as you wish.

Sadly, it's so much easier to sit back and judge than to show compassion. If you have suffered, or have family/friends suffering from forms of mental illness, this becomes very very clear. Sometimes it's better to just say nothing at all.

I agree with Incog. We all have issues and problems, however some problems can obviously be more intrusive than others. Admitting and taking responsibilty for our faults is a hugely positive thing for you to do. Congrats Matt, all the best.

Thanks Ballzac. Pain and injuries had their part to play in my decision too. My knees are both pretty much gone, one ankle has a bone about 1cm sticking out the side, just had op on left wrist after work accident, two screws holding my right elbow together, blah blah blah I could go on. Mostly not work injuries, but man it's hard to get out of bed in pain every morning, just to go to work and make it worse. Fortunately I've only had relatively minor back injuries. They are a killer. I hope your backs doing better these days mate, thats a bloody uncomfortable, painful and frustrating problem to live with.

Hey all Got some more seeds and a couple of prints to trade. Everyone an anyone welcome to trade. A couple of medicinal things Im looking for in particular - Hypericum perforatum, passiflora Incarnata, rhodiola Rosea, valeriana officinalis, and anything with benefits for the liver and/or pancreas. And of course, everything somewhat more interesting or exotic is welcome too. I have to trade - CACTI Koehres mixed loph's - 25 seeds (8 lots available) 3 left Gold x Fat Spach - 25 seeds Psycho0 x Super Pedro - 25 seeds Peruvianus x Pachanot - 25 seeds Super Pedro OP - 25 seeds Super Pedro x Spach - 25 seeds OTHER SEEDS Nicotiana rustica - 100+ seeds Acacia floribunda - 50+ seeds Desmanthus illinoensis - 20 seeds Papaver somniferum "Gigantheum" - 50+ seeds Silene capensis - 10 seeds Ipomea tricolor "Heavenly Blue" (??) - 5 seeds Petalostylis labichoides - 5 seeds Hibiscus sabdariffa - 10 seeds PRINTS (for microscopy use only) Ps cubensis "Burma" x 2 prints Finally, big thanks to those whom I have previously traded with, or received gifts/prizes from, as its your generosity which has allowed me to have these to trade in the first place. If anyones interested, leave a note here, or PM me, your choice

Thanks Mira for the info. Very interesting, I'm definately going to read over your post a few more times And Rabelais cheers for the pep talk hehe thanks man

One of the Burma prints is now available again if anyones keen. Of course, for microscopy use only.

Great crowd at Cottesloe Beach anti-cull protest this morning.

Thanks Ceres. Thats quite insightful and much appreciated. Especially the study "techniques" using plants. Very intersting indeed

Hillbilly, the mighty lover of the land Wandering around with a goat hand in hand. The people and the pumpkins both did frown, So he kept it incognito when they went into town.

Wow. Thanks for the input everyone. Very interesting to hear both positive and negative experiences. This is what I originally thought too. But apparently it is so. I would still have only the Arts degree, but my minor can be in any degree apparently, Arts, Science, Commerce etc. I don't know the full story, but to get a Science degree in Botany, requires 4 or 5 complimentary units on top of whats required to do it as a minor here. So at the very least, I would guess I'd have to cover those units too, to even think about a Scince degree in Botany. All in all, this is more of a life change for me. I have been deeply unhappy in the construction industry for years. I can quite easily earn 80-90 grand a year by just turning up and going through the motions on site every day. Thats way more money than I can even spend week by week, but money is unimportant and being miserable isn't worth all the money in the world. As far as work prospects, I have no other skills. So giving Uni a shot, meeting lots of new fresh faces, shaking up my life a little and getting out of my comfort zone again, on top of the possibility of learning and gaining broader skills, sounds pretty good to me. And yep, I can't imagine there is a huge amount of work for Archaeologists around. Anthropology probably more opportunities but still not heaps. And Botany I honestly don't know. It's more about a change. Simply by studying, I am already opening the doors to studying overseas on exchange or studying at different Uni's around Australia. I could quite easily work my way around Australia doing building work, but I would still be getting up everyday to do something that makes me miserable. Does that make some sort of sense?

Thanks for ya great input Mad. Can I ask what you mean by "ps" ? The lectures thing is certainly in interesting view too. I gotta say though, not having experienced it yet, I'd prefer to just put the hard yards in an attend everything at least until I get my head around the whole thing. Might come in handy once I'm settled in and confidant with my ability to learn again. Fortunately for me, or unfortunately depending on your view, I don't have that pressure of providing for a family. No kids and been single for a couple of years now (never married). Due to some problems an stuff, I had to move back with the oldies last year, which was a bummer, but on the positive side, I don't have to worry about a roof over my head whilst I get myself together, and find some casual work, and then some accomadation of my own. I absolutely hate materialism too, which is sometimes to my detriment, but also means I don't like owning anything I dont explicitly need, so I have no mortgage, loans etc to worry about. And huge thanks for the good wishes both of you!

Ceres, you are a legend Please do let me know when they're ready. Will happily take a few off your hands for free, but would much prefer to give you atleast something in return.

Hey dox. Hows it goin mate. I'm defo interested in those Passiflora incarnata seeds if you still have em. Just posted up a trade list myself. Check it out if your interested mate http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=37530

Hi all Just been through my box of seeds and have some that will only go to waste if I hang on to them. Some come from the hugely generous Obtuse's 1000 post giveaway (thanks mate!!!), and the rest are just excess seeds from previous trades and purchases both here and elsewhere. Trades are preferred but not necessarily required. Im open to consider anything interesting, so send me a PM if your keen. The list - 5 x Acacia floribunda - 2 grams (100+ seeds?) 2 x Brugmansia arborea (10 seeds) 1 x Brugmansia suaveolens (10 seeds) 1 x Datura stromomiun (10 seeds) 1 x Nicotiana rustica (100+ seeds) 1 x Papaver somniferum "Giganteum" (100+ seeds)

Franks n beans Bearded clam

Would love to help spread em round, if needed.

Still 4 x acacia and the nicotiana left if anyones keen.

Frankincense from Boswellia species in Oman?

Only the Acacia and Nicotiana are left now.

Salo is pretty sick. Watched drunk at a mates house over 15 years ago an still regret it.

Lovely gesture mate! And lovely lophs