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  4. Posted

    19 hours ago, waterboy 2.0 said:

    Current global efforts to curb emissions are "unlikely" to prevent the dangerous situation

    I believe it is way to late, dammed if we do and dammed if we don't, without modern industrialization and our pollutants from modern civilization  there likely would be an almost instant warming effect and then the feedbacks really will go like dominoes due to the loss of global dimming

    https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/causes-and-effects-of-global-dimming.php

    19 hours ago, waterboy 2.0 said:

    The authors of the study examined 10 feedback processes, some of which could cause "the uncontrollable release" of carbon back into the atmosphere, after it had been stored in the earth.

    Don't forget methane from shallow icy waters and such 

    19 hours ago, waterboy 2.0 said:

    The study did not lay down a timeframe for when such events would begin to occur, but theorised — if the threshold was crossed — it could be within a century or two.

    A century or two is always comforting to say as we will be dead by then anyway and gives a sense of ample time to solve the issue, i think that amount of time is generous and wouldn't be surprised if we see society collapse as little as 2-5 years from now perhaps even sooner, all conjecture but the future for modern society and humans, it does not seem great from my eyes

     

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    Activities include pin the comet on the continent, turn around touch the ground the whole world is burning down, poetry reading and death metal music, sharing of current doom porn and much much more.

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    Hope to see you all there : ) 

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    They said i shouldn't tell you this cause it is to soon and may cause a break in your psyche but i think you need to know, there is no airplanes, no cows, no horses, no dogs, no noisy machines, you are not in a house, you are not in australia and it is not 2018, you are in a mental facility located in illionsis usa, it is the year 1973, you have been here for three and a half years since you had a psychotic episode at the local milk bar claiming Henry Winkler had killed the fonze and now he is after you to take your soul to the underworld.

     

    Now we have tried telling you this before and you reverted moments after, again claiming you are in australia 2018 complaining about all the noise, we are now trying a new method to reach you, it is called the forum text method.

    We need you to come back, please come back

     

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  6. Posted

    Scientism is the new religion, All the work of satan to deceive and lead man away from our true creator, satan wants to keep us here and not enter the kingdom, the bible says four corners of earth, the earth is flat and gravity is just density, WAKE TFU  before it's to late, time is short, let jesus in your heart now or go to the pit for eternity with your lord satan and the best thing you will have to look forward to there is hitler, pul pot and jimi hendrix will gang bang you at 4pm every wednesday.

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  9. Posted

    I will add that we only see/sense a small spectrum of what is, like hearing range https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2003/ChrisDAmbrose.shtml

    Limit in vision etc. We are in a human experience or suit which only allows a certain spectrum to be viewed, i think we can tinker with it and also build machines to help see a little outside or wedge of experience, it wouldn't surprise me that entities experienced through some altered states may indeed be really be there, the chemicals may be a type of bridge to other pieces of the pie, a glimpse beyond our curtain.

    I think anyone who is experienced with sally and the likes would likely have an open mind about such things, these type of plants and chemicals could very well be a catalyst to the normally unseen but possibly very real world.

     

    Sleep paralysis may be a kind of view to these type of things also, experiences in dreams and lucid dreaming is very interesting as well. 

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  10. Posted

    I would say prove it lol, i like to be somewhat skeptical, i have personally experienced precognition so i am open to it and i am aware that i only know what i know and with the vastness of the universe that can't be much and what i think i know may not even be truth or only a resemblance of truth, there is lots of weirdness in life that i couldn't explain, life its self is so very amazing.

  12. Posted

    Yeh i agree Northerner.

    Without some sacrifice or hardships would we appreciate the desired outcome the same way, like we need contrast, a = work/hardship etc. b = reward/outcome, without a as a reference to provide contrast b wouldn't have the same effect.

    eg. if you like a beer, drinking one after a days work is so much more wonderful than just drinking all day long

    In a way this makes negatives a positive when viewed in a broader picture

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  14. Posted

    On 31/07/2018 at 1:08 AM, Cubism said:

    Nothing is that simple in neuroscience, and especially not consciousness studies.

    Consciousness obviously requires a brain (so anatomy) but is not the brain itself, it is emergent from the brain, which is why it is so hard to study, because no-one understands how subjective experience can arise from matter (neurons etc) which goes back to Stu's original comment.

    I am tempted to argue it is from evolution and from chemical reactions and what part of the brain is responsible for what and so forth but yeh all i would be really doing is trying to explain some of what we know about neuroatanomy and such. I can see how that is not fully satisfactory and the topic is so complex that it may never be truly known, at least in a way that can be easily or sufficiently communicable and measured.

    we know because we are it experiencing it but what is it ? :wacko: 

    it's hard to say if any answers we come up with is just us creating an internal narrative to satisfy.

    P.S i am having a couple of drinks today so please excuse if this comes across as mumbo jumbo balderdash lol : )

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    Looks like the soil might be a bit heavy, maybe next time add a little sand and perlite and maybe sieve out some of the larger chunks in the potting mix, the bigger wood chips, i use a gold sieve for this

    Looks like they may be getting a little to much direct light, if you put some light shade cloth over them i think they should get nice and green again

     

     

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  16. Posted

    I do think memory is apart of human consciousness tho is not required to have a state of consciousness, I think cognition is a part of consciousness, more the mental aspect of it but consciousness would require more anatomy like nerves and such in order for there to be senses, to be able to sense the surroundings.

     

    Brain imaging is only one observational tool, we can use electrodes and EEG for observing electrical patterns

     

    I agree great convo and topic : )

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    I am far from an expert in this field to : ) tho it does greatly interest me, i don't really see a huge distinction between cognition and consciousness. how would you define consciousness ? i believe there is a part of the brain that is responsible for even asking these types of questions,  i see it as influenced chemical reactions, a drastic example is if you add certain chemicals to the organism (like drugs) there can be a drastic change in consciousness, kinda like tinkering with it as a chemist would in a lab

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    On 30/07/2018 at 3:10 AM, Cubism said:

    and would require quantification of consciousness to begin with.  In thousands of years of studying consciousness no one person has come up with a way to quantify it, so how do you suggest we do?

    You could get a room with many objects of different form and colours, add some sounds playing, controlled temperatures and place individuals in the room for an allocated time then after quiz them on what they had just experienced in that room and it will be a crude measurement of the individuals awareness, there level of consciousness. 

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    On 30/07/2018 at 3:10 AM, Cubism said:

    That's not the issue, the question is how does consciousness arise from an assortment of chemicals.

    That is to me one of the most exciting areas of research, currently i think or lean toward the theory of abiogenesis and evolution.

    On 30/07/2018 at 3:10 AM, Cubism said:

    And to say that someone with a neurodegerative disorder is somehow less conscious than someone else, is yet another common misconception

    I did not say this, i said Look at neurodegenerative diseases and you can see how consciousness correlates with the brains functioning.

    That is you can see examples of certain parts of the brain that is damaged or impaired and how that effects consciousness, you can see what regions of the human brain are responsibly for belief, thought, feelings etc through brain scans and such technology, and as that tech improves so does our understanding  

    On 30/07/2018 at 3:10 AM, Cubism said:

    Hence "The Hard Question of Consciousness".  It's hard as fuck to understand/study/answer and that's why no one has managed to yet.

    We are studying it and increasing our understanding of it,  in co-evolution of tech we are understanding more.

    On 30/07/2018 at 3:10 AM, Cubism said:

    Btw, my sentiment is same as Stu's, not an attack and certainly not looking for an argument, just stating the basic neuroscience perspective.

    All good thank you, me neither : )

    I think there is a strong consensus among neuroscientists (and prob scientists in general?) is that consciousness is biological and chemical functions

     

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  23. Posted

    On 30/07/2018 at 3:06 AM, DiscoStu said:

    this is not a go at you or anything but i have problems when people say words like "just": or "simply" when talking about sentience.

    I don't see anything you or cubism have stated that is even remotely close to an attack or similar, all good  : )  I use the word just to often and often inappropriately and should have left that word out of that sentence.

    On 30/07/2018 at 3:06 AM, DiscoStu said:

    so what is awareness?

    Awareness is basically perception and knowledge, the definition of perception is the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses, knowledge is 1.   facts, information, and skills acquired through experience or education; the theoretical or practical understanding of a subject.  2. awareness or familiarity gained by experience of a fact or situation.

    On 30/07/2018 at 3:06 AM, DiscoStu said:

    what does it mean to be "aware" of something?

    Basically for that something to be perceived to be sensed.

    On 30/07/2018 at 3:06 AM, DiscoStu said:

    given a sufficiently advance AI that's indistinguishable from humans, how can you tell whether or not it's aware of its surroundings? do you ask it?

    I believe with enough advancement in the tech we will create a type of synthetic awareness, with enough complexity and sensory chips and so forth, to figure if it is aware would require tests, how aware it is would depend on the level of tech.

    On 30/07/2018 at 3:06 AM, DiscoStu said:

    how much brain do you need before you can say "this brain has awareness?

    I don't think the brain independently has awareness, that is it requires supporting functions, a vast network of nerves and so forth. I don't think it is really about the mass of brain or tissue but more the functionality of the brain, the brains functionality.

    On 30/07/2018 at 3:06 AM, DiscoStu said:

    similarily with lower life forms like bacteria? are they aware?

    Yes they are certainly aware, what level of awareness i don't exactly know.

    http://www.biowars.com/blog/are-bacteria-conscious-beings/

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  25. Posted · Edited by bardo
    change a word

    destroy the right organ and life ends for the individual, end of life = end of consciousness.

     

    On a side note and a bit of a tangent, i feel religion and belief that life continues after death for an individual detracts from just how astounding life really is and robs someone from realizing just how extreme this experience is and seems sad if it is to be squandered by religious ideologies, at this time i feel religion detracts from the extremity and rawness of the now and it's happenings.

    I believe the energy that animates the flesh will never die, in that sense we have always been and always will but will not be truly conscious without the supporting biology, free, like a rain drop becoming apart of the ocean again, certain happenings aloud it to experience a sense of separation as a drop for a time but all along was still apart of the ocean.

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