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Beautiful collection bogfrog, very impressive indeed : )
18 hours ago, SayN said:(Couldn't help noticing the wood on your deck seems... upside-down.)
Lol, what a very attentive and observant mind you have : )
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21 hours ago, mysubtleascention said:Other types of consciouness making external observation upon the occurances between the archetypes of victim, saviour and assaulter and the energy exchange happening among these three, might perceive the energy exchange itself being a great act of compassion between victim and assaulter or between victim and saviour and also between assaulter and saviour, happening on a subconscious level - arranged to provide the exchange needed, in order to help the evolution for these archetypes into new ones, desired by all participants.
I like how there can be one thing yet it can be perceived in so many ways, it is like as if a million views on one thing, takes one thing into a million realities.
What you have written here is an interesting take on things, i quite like it : )
22 hours ago, mysubtleascention said:Accusing any one or any thing of insufficiency is instant giving away of the opportunity to claim responsibility for your creation of the "perfect now" reality while incarnating and the opportunity to find bliss in what the world is providing as raw material to be interpreted.
Awesome : )
22 hours ago, mysubtleascention said:The system assembled with the same elements is different as the energy exchange between the elements is different in a "higher state of consciousness".
Maybe an example to explain more simply would be if you like a song and it's meaning, then 10 years later the song through personal experience/growth takes on a new meaning almost as if a different song altogether, same song just with a different perspective or view.
Do you think this is a decent and fitting although simplified analogy to this ?
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That looks and sounds interesting Northerner, i will check it out in a week or so : )
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MACGRUBER
10/10 LOL
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I think those inverted crosses look quite good, i might put one down the front gate, i think it will be good for the feng shui : )
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I don't think you fully grasped what i was trying to communicate in the way i intended, i feel like from what i have written you have interpreted it to now have the view i am a sociopath incapable of emotion, compassion and lacking a moral compass, if that is so you are very mistaken about my character.
19 hours ago, Inyan said:For me, if we could all agree that rape was inherently wrong, the world might be a better place.
To the truest meaning of the word i find rape to be a disgusting act, i could agree with you all day and night about this but it won't change what has happened, what is. and will likely have no effect on what will.
19 hours ago, Inyan said:By watching an event unfold such as rape and not wish to doing something to ameliorate the situation to me is a bit unsettling.
I don't think ameliorate fits so well in that sentence, its like saying you want to make the act of rape better rather than alleviate the situation but i get what ya saying.
19 hours ago, Inyan said:We may choose to do or not to do, but by witnessing an act we can not say we are innocent and simply an observer as the choice to act or not to act is always present.
Man while we are here there is no way of not interacting, it is impossible to not interact with the forum of life, we are both an observer of the moment as well as co- creators of the next and so on. We cannot choose to act or not act, we can choose how we act or re-act, show me how one is to not act as to not act is an act, get what i am saying ?
19 hours ago, Inyan said:but what one observes and does nothing to change to me speaks volumes about the person.
If it has been observed than its to late to change anything as it has already happened other wise it could not be observed, the only way to alleviate suffering or distress at that point is through acceptance of what is, most suffering occurs when someone wants something to be what it is not.
When we try to enact change guess what, it ain't change cause it is what it is, change happens from the past and all is always changing from that view but we don't live in the past we live in the moment and we can't change the moment, if you think you are changing the moment your not you are just creating or co-creating the moment, to change it would require a time machine.
19 hours ago, Inyan said:Are the acts not done just as important as the acts that are done?
Acts not done ? how can an act not be done ? if it is not done than it is not an act.
I think i get what your saying but yeh i think you mean how we acted or interacted or how we will act or interact, Is that important ? I don't now is it ? if you mean important in the way of something having value or significance well i think it only has as much value or significance as one gives it, what you do has no effect on whether the next moment will occur or not, you will however be a co-creator of that moment.
20 hours ago, Inyan said:f the planet is being raped and you do absolutely nothing to change that... is it because you lack power to make a change, knowledge to make a change, or do you simply lack the intent?
Man you cannot change anything, what has has and what is is, anything that is yet to happen will be different from the past but you will never change anything. If you don't get that yet than you are not living in harmony with lifes story or song, you can't change anything because as far as i know we don't have a time machine, (tho by viewing the past through your mind you can develop a new perspective which alters ones views which can lead to peace and alleviate suffering) but yeh show me something you changed ? you can't because it is fictitious and a fallacious.
20 hours ago, Inyan said:f you have the power to ameliorate a little bit of the suffering and instead you happily engage in the raping of the Earth or watch as others do the same....What does that say about you?
Again i don't think the word ameliorate fits to well in that sentence, its like saying making suffering better rather than alleviating it.
All are doing the best they can to there abilities and understanding, many don't view the daily activities of the concrete jungle as rape. I don't think people deserve judgment (especially from someone with a hypocritical view) for doing there part in a society, like if you are in an accident and people are going to die if they do no get to a hospital, are you going to get up the ambo driver for using fossil fuels ? does he deserve your righteous judgment and condemnation ? or does he deserve praise and honor ? Do you see what i am saying and have been saying as a basis through this whole thread ?
Its all good to point out all of the problems with things but it ain't so easy to provide alternatives to the so called problems, i mean real life practical alternatives with real life practical ways of transitioning, so far i have yet to see anything written in this tread that is substantial in this regard, lots of judging and condemning of others but not much in the way of critical thinking.
And no one has answered my question of how do you know that to enact something you think is positive will result in a positive outcome? and all my other questions along this line which are conveniently ignored.
You clearly are a part of the "rape" by just using a computer, so i will throw this question back at you, If you are a participant of the rape yet condemn others for the rape what does that say about you ?
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On 24/06/2018 at 5:52 AM, Inyan said:Would we still find ourselves locked in debate about even that small amount of time devoted to our own betterment? Or would there still be people who would debate that is entirely unnecessary and a complete waste of time?
There is people who would say it is all pointless, eg. nihilists and pessimist
One day the sun will die and all life on earth will die also, so yeh it's a noble cause but ultimately it prob won't really matter either way ya go about it, do what ya feel, if ya feel like being an environmentalist that is noble and respectable if done with tact, or you can be someone who wants destruction, annihilation, chaos etc. either way i don't and won't judge cause i am not only a co-creator of each moment but also a witness and i much enjoy the totality of the experience and think it would be rather dole if we are to all agree upon something, i couldn't imagine much great learning if there is no trials to undergo. I like the contrast of black to white, what could we differentiate if it is to be only one ?
Maybe, someone else throwing out the rubbish from the window of a car, maybe by being witness to that could be viewed as amelioration to you on a personal level.
On 24/06/2018 at 5:52 AM, Inyan said:if you see people are not taking responsibilities for their actions and those actions are hurting the environment and others when does it become your responsibility to speak up on behalf of the environment? When do we speak up on behalf of others? When do we band together to affect a greater change for the good?
That's a tough question to answer and very subjective , where does one draw the line and how does one determine an action as harming the environment ? how do we way up pros and cons etc. how would we know that our actions intended as positive will actual result in a positive outcome. How much do we really know about anything to assume what is positive or not ?
Sure simple things like not throwing plastic/rubbish out on the ground is pretty much common sense but the big picture is not so simple and is quite subjective.
Even the word good is subjective, what is good for you may be bad for me so which is it ? Or what may be good for us may not be good for something else etc.
I do think it is noble to want to create or bring about change for good but man it ain't so simple, like it could be good for the forests and water ways etc. if we are to cull the human population by 80% but maybe not so good for those being culled.
It could be good to work out more and get healthy but that means you eat more produce and live longer which adds strain to the agricultural industry and the environment etc, but by being sickly you will effect the health care system and contribute to hospital congestion, either way it is both and neither, any act is both good and bad, how we view it and through what filter or lens will effect how we determine, feel and think about any given subject. personally i don't think in terms of good and bad, just what is and by my will how i react or interact with the stimuli i am subjected to.
I will never be right and i will never be wrong, i will be both at all times in any and everything i do or don't do.
Either way we go and what ever may happen there ain't no one getting out of here alive brother.
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On 22/06/2018 at 3:25 PM, DualWieldRake said:Well you replied to me, and no i'm not trying to save the world. From what?
And more bored than riotous i think
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So no one has a want for these ? i will try sweeten the deal a little by adding 8 x L.W texana seeds and a few pereskiopsis cuttings.
I will be adding extras in as well and don't think the package will disappoint any cactus lover looking to expand there collection.
Anyhow all good if no one shows any interest in them over the next couple of weeks ill have a go on ebay : )
Cheers y'all : )
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21 hours ago, Crop said:22 hours ago, bardo said:Man you are impossible.
Mate strange reaction, I take it I was not supposed to agree with your links. As for the trolling, you were caught red handed. I would like to hear about that. I am genuinely interested. If you where genuinely trying to make a point, I don’t get what it was.
Talking to families about this stuff is my job. Sure it’s a small part. Usually I am dealing with extreme at risk children. A lot of the parents of kids in this extreme category, come across the same way you have throughout this thread. As a result, I have probably been harsh on you. Why do you find helping others so strange? Both Paradox and yourself think ego is motivator. I’ve been in the non-profit sector for decades and I can only think of a few people with anything resembling an ego problem. If you understood the shit you need to wade through on a daily basis you would get why.
21 hours ago, bardo said:Being dismissive and to disparage others with differing views is the opposite of evolving in understanding of the human and earthly experience we are all currently undergoing, can we agree on that ?
Mate I was only dismissive once you started posting dodgy newspaper articles claiming smoking is not bad for you. Can we agree that was stupid! regardless whether you were trolling or not? You might not take child safety seriously, but I do. Not smoking around children is an important message. One that has gone way past the debate stage. One you were undermining for what reason?
Caught red handed lol, Man i don't care if you agree with the links or not, the point is not everyone thinks, feels and believes what you do but for some reason you think its fair to get up people for thinking or behaving different to you.
How you think i come across in this thread is just your opinion that is formulated through your personal filter and interpretation, you don't know anything about me.
Man i don't think it is strange to help people, i haven't once stated it is strange to help people, but how do you determine your intrusion into others business is a form of genuine help, maybe you are making things harder or worse and how or where do you draw the line with intruding into peoples personal lives with opposing thoughts to you ?
You say if i understood like you know what i do and don't know, you don't know what i do or do not know, you act like you are some kind of supreme warrior, how do you know that i don't work with "at risk" parents ?
This thread is depreciating into some kind of pissing contest and i yield man cause it seems to be going no where and achieving little to nothing in any way that is reasonable.
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On 17/06/2018 at 9:10 AM, Crop said:about industrial pollution in manufacturing. Definitely a big problem. A bit outside my work with children and their families. Nevertheless a worthy thing to stand up to.
And how would one stand up to this ? with your wisdom what alternatives may we adopt ? and what process must take place for us to adopt the alternatives ? please oh mighty help us transition from our erroneous ways and implement your system of world peace and pollution free society.
Teach us how we can be 100% in synergy with the environment without creating any harm at all with our current and growing population.
Please find us worthy to share your wisdom with us lesser beings.
P.S I am sorry for being a bit of a dick, truly, i don't want to offend you and i will if wanted share seeds and plants with you when i put things up for give aways etc. and respect you as a human being, i think its great you care about earth, animals and people. however it seems we just won't see eye to eye about some perspectives, we may agree about many things and issues tho not share the same outlook about those things and issues, i feel that is good thing not a bad thing, expressing differing views can very well help an individual to encompass more knowledge and broader views and understandings etc.
Being dismissive and to disparage others with differing views is the opposite of evolving in understanding of the human and earthly experience we are all currently undergoing, can we agree on that ? if not that's cool : ) we don't all have the same upbringing, opinions and views etc. what is important to you may mean little to nothing to others, are you able to accept that ? if not you are in for a stressful and hard time during your very short earth experience.
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Man you are impossible.
I will just appease your ego and say you are right about everything and i am wrong, yes i am a troll and i don't have the same stones as you because i am nowhere near the same caliber of a man as you, you are divine and supreme to all others in this thread and possibly even the world, i am not able to attain your level of enlightenment nor am i worthy.
You are a savior of smoking and phone using families, you are the bringer of righteous justice and a caster of pearls.
You are the voice of change and all are in debt to you and all you do.
Thank you oh mighty savior, all are blessed by your presence and beg of your mercy for all we do wrong and not in accord with your will and wisdom. May your voice be heard through out all lands as to save us from our selves and bring all to peace, security and safety.
For all this we all are forever indebted to you oh supreme one.
I will no longer burden you with words of a lower and lesser being and submit and agree with all your words, ways and wisdom.
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23 hours ago, TheMooseZeus said:Sooo people liked the moon pic so this is my first picture of Saturn
That is cool, what kind of telescope did you use ? i am actually in the process of saving for one atm, am thinking about something like a 90mm refractor, maybe with a budget of around 400-500 bucks.
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On 16/06/2018 at 7:56 AM, Crop said:Wow Paradox, perhaps you misunderstood me? My post was agreeing with you and telling you I was going to go back through our conversation with a more open mind. It’s all too easy in the passion of debate to miss things. You made some great points, though at times in a slightly condescending way. You then follow this last post up with a series of posts judging me as close-minded, and ignorant. More than a little hypocritical don’t you think. Didn’t we start this conversation with you making the point that you did not think hypocrites should have a say. You seem to have an issue with the fact I understand the meaning of the phrase ‘agree to disagree’, it’s a close-minded statement that means you are reluctantly willing to tolerate someone not agreeing with you, but you do not accept or respect that person’s decision. Not exactly what I strive for, yet it may well fit your following posts.
I too am in Thailand and it is a great culture, but you seem to be a bit confused about lady boys walking past a mosque. Lady boys are very much accepted in sharia. It’s Christians who have a problem. If I remember rightly, the Ayatollah Khomeini himself, once gave a detailed speech explaining how they fitted in to Islamic theology. Unfortunately, I’m ignorant so???
Man i have just read through the thread to catch up cause i had missed a lot and i think paradox and i are trying to express basically the same view/point but it is going way over your head with your right fighting ways.
You can have your views as others can there own, what is condescending is thinking you know better than everyone else and your view is Superior to views which conflict your own and why do we need to accept or respect your your views or decisions ? whats wrong with being diplomatic and agreeing to disagree lol
As for the sharia law lady boy scenario, yes it seems it is true that transsexuals are widely accepted by Muslims but i think you get the point he was trying to make yeh ? just alter the scenario a little and hypothetically place a church in place of the mosque.
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On 16/06/2018 at 7:50 AM, Crop said:So your links defending smoking with children where simply trolling. I must admit I don’t understand the concept.Please help me out. It costs you so much. Posting things like this make you appear stupid. A reputation as a troll devalues everything else you have to say, as it leaves people guessing whether you are saying something you believe or something merely to elicit a reaction. So given this high price what do you get out of it?
No i am not trolling, the links don't defend smoking with children and i wouldn't smoke with a child in close proximity (in fact i quit smoking) the point i was attempting to make perhaps crudely is i could believe a study that contradicts your beliefs, when someone claims to have the ultimate truth and enforces that belief or personal truth onto others with a belief that is not congruent with your own is what i would call somewhat authoritarian in attitude and a bit condescending, then i further elaborated by showing many examples of toxins that children are commonly exposed to and how you choose to attack one but not the others, where it is that you draw the line with that type of attitude. re-read the comment if you like, honestly i have no control what you think, say or do and i wish not to control any of those aspects of your personal freedom, i am simply testing the validity of your beliefs, views and statements.
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Crop, I think there is a consensus here about it not being a good thing for a child to smoke lol
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https://www.youtube.com/user/PaulHBeckwith
For anyone not very familiar with the topic i think this guy seems to explain things fairly well, albedo effect, feedback loops, jet streams etc.
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Dual, it's good to think outside the box and explore ideas, tho i don't think you have thoroughly thought through the logistics of such a vision
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Well if this guy is right about what he thinks will eventuate then we don't have to worry, if he is wrong i think his general message it still applies considering we are all in a terminal condition.
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Ok all spoken for : ) send me a pm with ya details Xperiment and tonic and i will send them off as soon as they fully ripen : )
Here is a pic of the plant they are coming from : )
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I am prob not going to do anything with these so thought i would offer them up, i grew this plant from seed and i think it was from an alba but can't remember exactly, anyhow i am thinking i will do 10 or so berries each for the first three people, there may be a little wait as i want to insure fully ripe berries before i send.
So if ya keen let me know and ill send em out when ready : )
Will update when they are spoken for : )
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I also have some things on e bay if anyone is interested : )
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/L-W-cactus-x-3/123187542609?hash=item1cae8cba51:g:BwgAAOSwCRRbII7~
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/L-W-cactus-x-3/123187541052?hash=item1cae8cb43c:g:b~MAAOSw3uFbIIol
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Hi, i have seedlings in excess so i am putting some up for sale, I am doing three packs, there is 10 different hybrids in each pack ( i will add a couple random extras as well )
In each pack there is 1x - Yowie x rosei #2, Juul's giant x bridgesii bertha, werdermannianus ABG OP, Bruce OP, Macro Adelaide OP, scopulicola x super pedro (pic with lighter ), MB Scopulicola x Anakie, psychoO x hausca 'red', MB scopulicola x J2, and some ones without a label (i will add a few of these).
I think $75 each pack with postage included is a fair price : )
Post within australia only.
Cheers : )
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Northerner, that is very cool
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Garden Update 2018
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Lots of people argue that and lots of people do there decks that way but the ridges are actually there for air flow to help prevent moisture and mold and should be faced down ward