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any of these perhaps? http://plants.usda.gov/cgi_bin/gallery_pag...nails&pagenum=1

And about the innoculant, ofcourse it is needed but ususally planting the plants near each other, and making a dh2o suspension from the roots and pouring that into the other plants roots works fine, just be sure to check the plant/roots for signs of disease. also check for acremonium fungis they are symbiotic endophytes you might need with the plant to make it "shamanic" in some cases. i have survived without commercial rhizobiums so-far, and hope to until ive got the skills to isolate a pure strain of rhizobium myself (shouldnt be long at all)

You mean invisa or other sensitive ones? wich ones look like pudica? ive seen invisa and the other sensitive one in australia (cant remember name but discussed here before in other mimosa thread), neither look like pudica to me.. ..please correct me if im wrong. ive also got few mimosa species growing, non of them look at all like pudica. please tell me wich mimosas look like pudica thanks. any tips on how to operate the gallery ? well i guess if not, i cant erase my fuckups. sorry.

shit fuck piss doom!!! i got some pics online but i put one pudica in the CACTI part, any way to change its place anymore?? if there is a way i just couldnt figure it out (stupid) anyway i think your "acacia" looks SO much like pudica it drives me nuts. thanks for the lovely gallery option and im really sorry i fucked it up with that non-cacti one :/

AND if there is some australian acacias with pink flowers please inform me about them. i only know http://farrer.riv.csu.edu.au/ASGAP/jpg1/010413.jpg that one for now, and that is defiently unique, normally yellow flowers that i have seen. but you are thee OZzie plant masters so i rely on you providing info on your local plants.

what plants look totally like pudica? i would be very very interrested to know. I have pudica growing and well yes, if its not sensitive, im sorry i speculated totally wrong. if it is, its pudica, my pudicas look exactly like that plant in the pic. but since im not sure they are pudica anymore, even though they were labeled pudica from the garden store, if theres sensitive lookalikes im not too sure about mine being pudica either, since they look almost identical to that pic. yes my ID is definetly based on only looking at that pic since lacking a sample of that partivular plant. but since im also growing acacias (various) and none of them resemble any mimosa even closely, if you dont count baileyana/dealbata and other mimosa style leafed ones. i would be very interrested to know wich acacias look so much like pudica in close-up picture.

I`m 100% positive that is mimosa pudica (sensitive plant). 100% sure.

PS: chemicals dont stink if you evap. them properly ;D

btw: hoodoo! 1 more question since your from japan, i gather: any experience with desmodium species ? i managed to harvest few hundred grams of desmodium paniculatum foliage and some oxyphyllum foliage also.. ..so far realtively unresearched (i prefer unresearched plants myself !!!) i also found at least 3 desmodiums i couldnt ID on the spot, ive got pics and will ID them though.. lots of desmodium somewhat rich in tryptamines there too (like motorium cagneticum etc), and its at least as plentiful as LBJ and grows in the same places.. ..and desmodiums are also called HAGI ! i guess its just from the shape of leaves and flowers why though.. ill get to go to japan again next new-years and plan to research the plants there more that time.

quote: "Apothecary: I smoked the water extract concentrate and it did exactly the same thing that it did when taken orally, it was a boring sedative. If the fat and other nonessenitals were removed (they were not) it may prove more interesting to smoke (subjectively)." hmm.. i dont think smoking dimy-salts (water extract without basification..) is really very healthy, never mind the fats and oils, they are not that unhealthy, but smoking a salt is very bad for your lungs.. well.. since usually vasculary plants with variable content dont contain any freebase form of alkaloids, a water extract will be totally inactive when smoked due to the fact its in the ionised salt-form, and how to seperate 1-meo, well chromatography ofcourse! by the way i got 100 seeds of LBJ )) !!! yes, hardiness is something great for us ppl from the cold! hmm.. well ofcourse if interrested in D then maya mhrb is the way to go.. ..if just interrested in researcing the enzymic processes inside a varying-content plant.. then maya mhrb is the least interresting to research.. ill post pics of my ethnogarden and natural habitat gallery soon for you to see.

Yes! i am very interested in this one, i am also very used to variability and interrested especially in that particular aspect of plants, since i been working with many plants with variable contents, a.baileyana, phalaris etc, im not put off by a insteady content! yes but is the japonica gonna be available too? sure hope so, for sake of research.. ..ill tell you soon whats the % of tryps in JAPONICA if notable (im not talking bout bicolor here,though i do plan to report that too someday)

ahh found the other ref to Lespedeza Bicolor Var. Japonica, slightly more detailed in someway, at least in listing of different compunds: * Lespedeza bicolor var. japonica [DMT,5MD,l,rb] 5-METHOXY-N-METHYLTRYPTAMINE Bark, BUFOTENINE Plant, BUFOTENINE-OXIDE Fruit, N,N-DIMETHYLTRYPTAMINE Fruit, N,N-DIMETHYLTRYPTAMINE-OXIDE Fruit, N-METHYLTRYPTAMINE Bark, HOMOORIENTINE Leaf, LEUCOANTHOCYANIN Plant, LEUCOPELARGONIDOL Plant, ORIENTIN Leaf, SAPONARETIN Leaf, VITERINE Leaf

About the "japonica" names given to plants growing here, I know what you mean that they "sometimes" add the name to some plants there, BUT there is japonicas that are only found in japan, i found a few and got pics too. one the lespedeza japonica, then phragmites japonica, TSURUYOSI http://had0.big.ous.ac.jp/~hada/plantsdic/...i/tsuruyosi.htm of wich the rhizomes ill research someday. and also calysteiga japonica, http://protist.i.hosei.ac.jp/Asagao/Yoneda...CD2522/D/05.jpg of wich i managed to take cuttings from, also will love to research along with Calysteiga Sepium and Convolvulus Arvensis (Both found in my home country) but i know what you mean about "japonica" being added to some plants native to somewhere else too. dont let it fool you though Lespedeza Japonica contents ill tell you when i know too..

ps: i cannot afford trouts books, though i do know where to purchase them. i might get a peek of the info where they sell them if i ask the mama nicely.. thanks for the tip though. i really appreciate it

and i most definetly dont want to have anything to do with any ayahuasca admixtures, yuck disgusting maaan.