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    It's weird seeing all the people cheering and shouting "USA USA" when the police caught the alleged bombers. That's more scary than the thought of two people out of several hundred million being able to make a dodgy bomb. Hell, more people die from legal guns every day in the US! They don't seem to have a great deal of awareness of what's actually going on around them, no wonder overseas is such an alien world to them.

    I wonder how different it would be if the majority of Americans and people from the middle east were atheist. American foreign policy and corporate expansion are partly to blame but the underlying and historical issue that's rarely discussed or critiqued is religion and it's influence on people. Allah achbar/one nation under god.

  5. Posted · Edited by botanika

    Couple of observations/responses to botanika's posts:

    1) I find it hard to take seriously journalism that characterises any attempt to explain an event in ways that conflict with official and mass media accounts as "nutballs and magical thinkers.". Anyone who cares to do some basic research on conspiracy theories will find that among the innumerable conjectures out there, there are solid examples of states telling bald-faced, premeditated lies to the public about events on all kinds of scales. To dismiss speculative dissent wholesale as nutjobs nutjobbing is intellectually lazy and dishonest, if not outright and intentionally ideological.

    2a) “Paradoxically, it is much easier for people to accept the idea of a government conspiracy than it is to believe that it was just a random act.” - I would've thought a ranking cog-sci academic would be able to use the term paradox correctly. In the context of human cultural history this is hardly a paradox; we've always sought out ways of explaining seemingly random events by way of storytelling, often by referring to a higher authority or power. e.g. thunder being linked to the power of god during the sermon on the mount, rather than being seen as random (since meteorology wasn't much of a thing in those days).

    2b) The Boston bombing is hardly being characterised as a random act. We've already been given numerous suggestions for where to place the blame: on Islam, on Chechnya (together with implications of Cold War paranoia), on social misfits… we've already been fed numerous explanations and been given scapegoats, as well as-

    2c) Conspiracy theories! No one seems to be mentioning that the official story we're hearing is itself a conspiracy theory. Specifically, the accusation is that two young men, at least one of whom was supposedly deeply influenced by radical Islam, conspired to bomb the marathon and carry out more bombings. The official story is a conspiracy theory, too. At least until factual evidence is discovered or manufactured.

    4) "It’s much a better picture [sic] to have an enemy whom you can blame." Once again, we had already been given this picture within days of the event. Numerous pictures, in fact, of not-quite-whities who are apparently threatening our freedoms. People didn't need to go searching for an image of evil upon which to transpose their blame. We were forcefed that image, pre-packaged with a number of prejudices, through the barrage of worldwide news coverage. I think botanika's explanation regarding the notoriously cavalier mass media and the conflicting accounts of events are a much more likely basis for producing speculation that differs from the official stories.

    5) "I think they’re watching themselves being ignored, and that’s the one thing they hate" If this is an issue about subjectivity and recognition, how do we explain the torrential discussion of the topic on majority anonymous boards like 4chan where no-one gets recognition nor recognised?

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    6) "There are over a million people on the terrorist watch list. It's nigh impossible to monitor every single one of their movements and plans in realtime." If Tamerlan had been visiting a region that is known chiefly in the US for its militant Islamic cells and training operations this should have been a huge red flag. And the US will check that shit at the border every time. I've been hassled for entry for having the most banal European stamps in my passport (among numerous other things). With how paranoid and over-resourced the border cops are in the US it seems unlikely to me, personally, that this kind of overseas trip could have flown under the radar of terrorist paranoia once he returned to the States.

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    edit: unrelated to botanika's posts, i'd like to add that characterising the pressure cooker bombs as WMD not only trivialises the falsified justification for invading Iraq in 2003, but links the boston bombings to the US's globalist prerogative already long in motion in a manner which renders "suspicious" an understatement.

    speaking of trivia, did anyone else find it amusing that it took the media a couple of days to move from stating that Dzhokhar couldn't make a statement because of a neck wound that affected his speech to realising that in our modern age we do have means of communication other than speech. hint: i'm using one such now.

    But nowhere can you prove the alleged bombers are innocent nor are you helping create a solid case for exactly who carried out the attack if you believe it to be someone else. If you think it is an act perpretrated by a government agency provide evidence. If the bombers are innocent provide evidence.

    The older brother didn't fly under the radar. He was on a watch list. His homeland is the north Caucasus and his religion is Islam. He was known to the FSB and the FBI. The FBI dropped the case when the FSB did not provide them with information requested by the FBI. Should he have been arrested for visiting his homeland/relatives and being a muslim?? Tamerlan was seen by Dagestan police making six visits to a known Islamic militant in a Salafi mosque in Makhachkala. Can he be arrested for visiting a Mosque? Did amyone have evidence to warrant an arrest at the time for Tamerlan? Is it not conceivable that he became radicalized and motivated to carry out a bombing attack? Motivated enough for the younger brother to follow suit? Perhaps we will never know the full story of motive and influence as Tamerlan is dead. If he was alternatively trained by the FBI or CIA or the US government, where is the evidence? Let's see what happens at the trial.

    I don't agree with the way Bush originally defined Terrorism but one cannot deny that terrorists exist or that radical islamic followers are capable of harming innocent people with fairly unsophisticated methods.

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    Funnily enough I used to laugh at conspiracy theorists until 9/11, and I started looking into it. Yes, there's a lot of shit out there, but I'm still convinced it was a setup by the government, a "false flag" attack. There's a lot of information out there to make me incredibly suspicious of the American government and it's bedfellows, corporations.

    There's an enormous amount of false information put out by CT's on 9/11. Certainly the american government has some responsibility because it failed to act effectively against the attacks - they had warnings - and some very clear warnings from the Phillipines government prior to the event. Bush, Cheney and Rice all got scolded by the commission for that. Certainly they also utilized 911 to push for a war in Iraq. But that does not mean the US government, or corporate interests, planned and carried out 911. There is no evidence for it. CT's after more than a decade still do not have a clear case and they never will because they are pushing lies and speculation. They profit from a gullible public that has not done its homework or simply doesnt care for the actual facts.

    There are some very powerful groups in the world, that is nothing new, but one does not need to be a Rockefeller to make the headlines.

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    There is no evidence to support this. In fact the evidence is to the contrary. The FBI would not put them on a watch list if they were employed by FBI. It's plausible Chuck Norris could have funded the terrorists but that doesn't mean he actually did.

    This is the whole difficult battle. There are over a million people on the terrorist watch list. It's nigh impossible to monitor every single one of their movements and plans in realtime. But some terrorism plans are intercepted so its better than doing nothing right?

    I chased 911 ghosts for years until I actually started doing my homework and realised the CT's were completely wrong. I am a lot more skeptical of CT's these days than I am of governments and media networks. Irrefutable facts and evidence trump motives and hypothetical scenarios.

    Control fear of random evilness perpetrated by the government? I am happy to accept scientific evidence of proof that something happened a certain way. That does not automatically make me accept that a corrupt government like the US or Britain could not create such an act to forward their agenda. While the official story is quite plausible, so is:

    1. The government agencies set up the brothers by offering them encouragement and tools

    2. The brothers were being 'run' by the agencies

  8. Posted · Edited by botanika

    lol big freudian slip by Boston commissioner who calss Tamerlan and Dzhokhar ''Actors''

    Not really - it's not a slip at all - criminals/terrorists are often called 'actors' in legislation just as terrorism or a criminal action is called an 'act'.

    Title 2C, NJ Criminal law:

    2C:1-14. Definitions.

    2C:1-14. In this code, unless a different meaning plainly is required:

    a. "Statute" includes the Constitution and a local law or ordinance of a political subdivision of the State;

    b. "Act" or "action" means a bodily movement whether voluntary or involuntary;

    c. "Omission" means a failure to act;

    d. "Conduct" means an action or omission and its accompanying state of mind, or, where relevant, a series of acts and omissions;

    e. "Actor" includes, where relevant, a person guilty of an omission;

    f. "Acted" includes, where relevant, "omitted to act";

    g. "Person," "he," and "actor" include any natural person and, where relevant, a corporation or an unincorporated association;

    As you see, the "perepetrator" or "do-er" or "defendant" fits in with that legal definition of "actor" and that term is used in lots of the individual statutes use that term, like this excerpt from 2c:2-3:

    "e. When causing a particular result is a material element of an offense for which absolute liability is imposed by law, the element is not established unless the actual result is a probable consequence of the actor's conduct."

    Because the term is used in NJ criminal law, the police just tend to use it in their reports and news releases. Lots of states that use the "model; penal code" as the basis for their crimnal law use the word "actor" a lot.

    The evidence against training drills is this:

    1. Actual training Drills are never, ever run during the Boston Marathon.

    They are always run in March, prior to the event.

    In an eerie foreboding of the deadly Boston Marathon blasts, the state’s top emergency agency ran a training drill in March 2012 that specifically activated a plan for an attack that included bombs at the race finish line as well as one under the VIP grandstand on Boylston Street, officials said.

    “It was always something we had to be concerned about ­— that someone would want to target it to make a political statement,” Peter Judge, director of the Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency, told the Herald. “This isn’t just our little race. There are 200 countries represented here, and it’s being watched across the world.”

    Judge said the agency, which coordinates disaster response plans, runs training exercises every March that focus on responding to a variety of crises, including terrorism, dangerous weather, accidents and mass casualties at the marathon.

    Source: The Boston Herald

    So - how does the official story explain the two points used as evidence of a training drill?

    1. Two Sweeps for Bombs DID occur.

    The police have stated that two sweeps for Bombs did occur. These EOD sweeps are totally routine and happen every year at the Boston Marathon.

    It's totally possible that the runners were told not to panic at the sight of the bomb squad checking, as there was no known bomb threat. It's also totally possible that the words "this is just a drill" for example, might have been used to convey that.

    2. Dry-Run disasters do not include Bomb drills.

    From the Boston Herald article linked above:

    Although the principal goal during such events remains the safety of everyone involved, organizers have realized that these annual gatherings of hundreds of thousands of people present the perfect opportunity to evaluate new technologies, exercise disaster plans, and build vital relationships between public safety agencies and the private sector.

    For example, a tracking system that utilizes barcodes and hand scanners to log a patient's condition and location has been tested during past races. During a real disaster, this technology could provide authorities quick access to the location and condition of casualties, information that currently takes hours, if not days, for friends and families of the injured to ascertain.

    This year, as always, even more important than testing new technologies is the development of relationships between various public safety and medical communities, as well as with the private sector. Homeland security specialists often talk about the importance of not waiting to "exchange business cards at the scene of a disaster." This means that counterparts from different agencies meet each other before a disaster thrusts them together for the first time.

    Just so people are clear on the motive, listen to the mothers words:

    “If they are going to kill him. I don’t care. My oldest son is killed, so I don’t care. I don’t care if my youngest son is going to be killed today. I want the world to hear this. And, I don’t care if I am going to get killed too. And I will say Allahu Akbar!”

    Many CT's would rather side with terrorists than facts. There are some genuine dangerous religous values out there that should not be ignored in favour of in vogue CT's. Islamic fundamentalism is dangerous and it is real.

    The American press is notoriously flaky at getting actual facts. A fair bit of reporting is done via anonymous source - most of whom get their information via hearsay - because getting the story first is much more important than getting the story correct. The news cycle is no longer 24 hours - it's 24 seconds. Whoever breaks the story first, gets the clicks.

    It's also not a coincidence that the birth of the Internet has also given birth to massive conspiracy theories, often based on mismatching press reports. It's because we are able to more readily compare sources of information that we are able to see the inconsistencies between them.

    Boston Bombing Conspiracies and What’s Behind the ‘False Flag’ Crazies

    by Lloyd Grove Apr 25, 2013

    All the reality-based evidence in the world wasn’t enough to suppress the flood of conspiracy theories about the Boston blasts, from Michelle Obama’s Saudi visit to a naked Tamerlan Tsarnaev. Professor Stephan Lewandowsky tells Lloyd Grove where it’s all coming from.

    The night of the Boston Marathon bombing, Slate political reporter David Weigel posted an essay arguing that unlike other tragedies and major crimes that have fired the imaginations of conspiracymongers, this one boasted too much reality-based evidence, especially photographic and video evidence, to give much encouragement to nutballs and magical thinkers.

    “Why the Conspiracy Theorists Will Have a Tough Time With Boston,” the piece was headlined. It advanced a host of compelling reasons—notably that too many hard facts and high-def images were widely available on the Internet, that social media would quickly debunk bogus rumors and bad info, and that politicians wouldn’t be able to exploit the carnage to their advantage—to explain why crazy-paranoid conspiracy scenarios would rapidly fizzle.

    Weigel’s prediction was overly optimistic.

    In the 10 days since the lethal explosions, strange and alarming hypotheses have descended on the Web like a swarm of locusts: the Boston bombing was staged by the government; Michelle Obama plotted with a Saudi national; Tamerlan Tsarnaev was taken naked and alive, then killed by authorities before he could speak the truth. The proliferation and sheer power of such ideas come as no surprise to Stephan Lewandowsky, a professor of psychology who has made a study of the conspiracy-obsessed.

    “Whenever there is a seemingly random tragic event, people seek to explain it in a way that reduces their fear,” Lewandowsky told me from Bristol University in the United Kingdom, where he is on sabbatical from his academic chair as a cognitive scientist at the University of Western Australia. “Paradoxically, it is much easier for people to accept the idea of a government conspiracy than it is to believe that it was just a random act.”

    Lewandowsky, whose study of conspiracy-minded climate-change deniers was recently featured in The New Yorker, continued: “Now that sounds really weird if you think about it: why would a conspiracy make you feel happier than a random act? But it turns out that there is some data on that. If people have a specific enemy, that actually gives them a sense of control in their response, instead of to a diffuse sort of threat. I think that’s what’s driving this, in part—the need to control your fear of random evilness. It’s much a better picture to have an enemy whom you can blame.”

    “I think they’re watching themselves being ignored, and that’s the one thing they hate. So they just crank up the volume and spread their falsehoods and nonsense.”

    http://www.thedailyb...ag-crazies.html

    A GOOD QUESTION TO BE ASKING IS HOW EFFECTIVE IS OUR SECURITY? AUTHORITIES AND SECURITY COMPANIES DID PLAN FOR THIS EVENT BECAUSE IT IS A HIGH PROFILE INTERNATIONAL EVENT. BOMB SWEEPS WERE DONE. SECURITY OFFICIALS/CONTRACTORS WERE PRESENT. YET TWO YOUNG TERRORISTS WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY DETONATE A BOMB AND KILL AND INJURE PEOPLE. SAME THING WITH 7/7 AND 9/11. THE ONE THING THE GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY CAN'T HIDE AWAY FROM IS THAT NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY IS SPENT ON FIGHTING TERRORISM, NO MATTER HOW MANY DRILLS, EXCERCISES, TECHNOLOGY IS APPLIED - ALL IT TAKES IS RADICAL MOTIVATION AND A RELATIVELY UNSOPHISTICATED STRATEGIC PLAN TO DO A LOT OF DAMAGE. That's what we are really fighting.

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  9. Posted · Edited by botanika

    Three more questions for debate.

    #18 Bombmaking just isn't that easy. People without training get killed that way. Untested bombs often end up being duds. People without weapons training can shoot a gun, but they generally can't hit what they're shooting at. Who was the bomb maker? How was he trained? Where were the bombs tested? What firing range did they use for target practice?

    #19 The bombs and weapons wouldn't have been left just lying around the home of a student with an active social life or in the home of a house husband. Where were the bombs and weapons stored?

    #20 One of the brothers was an unemployed student and the other was an unemployed house husband. Both had serious money problems. Their father was sending them money to pay their living expenses. Who paid for all the explosives and the weapons?

     

    # 18

    Their bombs were not impossible for them to make though. It was a pressure cooker bomb. There is nothing to suggest the bombers were expert shots and Im not even sure how relevent that question is ultimately. They killed a campus cop early in the night, which was a relatively easy target. Through two lengthy gun battles no other police were killed. Further it appears the younger brother even failed to commit suicide in the boat and shot his neck out instead. That's in addition to the allegation he ran over his older brother in a car while trying to escape. They didn't need to be expert marksmen - their plans primarily involved home made bombs, not all of which went off. They were young, amateur and possibly niaive. These guys ruined peoples lives including their own and their families.

    # 19

    It's unreasonable to suggest they 'just left them around home'. Not really that hard to hide the limited items they had. They weren't hiding cruise missiles. Hopefully the trial will procure more information.

    # 20 I'm sure more than a few of us have used parents money for things other than what was asked :D They weren't carrying around an inventory that required vast sums of money.

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    Was the Boston Bombing a “Dry-Run Disaster” Gone Live?
    Posted on April 18, 2013
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    By Lucas Bowser
    Because the mainstream media outlets continue to treat questions concerning the possibility of false flag terrorism in the Boston bombing as absurd, the alternative media is left with the job of investigating this angle. For those considering this possibility, the evidence of drills is key in determining if the attacks might have been carried out through the establishment bureaucracy. So how likely is it that there were drills being run at the Boston Marathon?
    A 2008 article from the Boston Globe indicates that it is very likely, as it explains the value of holding disaster drills during massive events like the Boston Marathon. The article by Arnold Bogis titled, “Marathon as a dry-run disaster” states, “today thousands of runners and hundreds of thousands of spectators are unwittingly taking part in a planned disaster.” While that may sound dangerous, Bogis assures us that the people are not only safe but they are actually making the, “citizens of Greater Boston safer in case of a natural catastrophe or terrorist attack.”
    As a former policy analyst for a Department of Homeland Security grant at George Washington University’s Homeland Security Policy Institute, Bogis goes on to explain that organizers see these, “annual gatherings of hundreds of thousands of people” as perfect opportunities to, “evaluate new technologies” and “exercise disaster plans.” He states that to successfully manage the marathon, public safety agencies, “must have relationships…with a diverse set of private organizations” so that, “When a real disaster strikes, these contacts can be called upon to lend needed supplies and other assistance.” He finishes the article by saying:
    “Massachusetts is better prepared for a real disaster because every Patriot’s Day and Fourth of July is treated as a ‘disaster.’ Instead of constant warnings about the inevitability of another terrorist attack or natural catastrophe, the public would be better served if this type of local homeland security innovation were promoted and adopted elsewhere.”
    Every Patriot’s Day is treated as a disaster? Is there any reason to believe that this wasn’t the case this year? Arnold Bogis updates us in a Homeland Security blog in April of 2011 with an article titled, “The Boston Marathon: In preparedness, the old is new again.” His blog post outlines, “similarities between what (Presidential Policy Directive 8 ) calls for and the actions of Boston officials in preparing for and running the Boston Marathon as a ‘planned disaster.’” He explains:
    “…today, in addition to being Tax Day, is Patriot’s Day in Massachusetts and the day on which the Boston Marathon is run. Why is this relevant to homeland security? As I wrote in and op-ed in the Boston Globe a few years ago: Today thousands of runners and hundreds of spectators are unwittingly taking part in a planned disaster.”
    A recent ESPN article adds more information, reporting that, “… in recent years the Boston Marathon has become a training ground for state and local officials to develop their response to large-scale catastrophe, whether man-made (like terrorism) or natural (like an extreme heat wave.)” It goes on to say that the 2008 marathon turned into, “something of an anti-cataclysm laboratory as local agencies cooperated with tech companies and research facilities, bringing an impressive array of hardware to defend the event from disaster.”
    According to the article, similar efforts were made at the 2009 marathon when, “the City of Boston first used an ‘enhanced situational awareness’ system developed by Raytheon.” The project named Athena, “integrated video, mapping and tracking software across the city’s police, fire and port security departments into one set of information that any public safety official could use.”
    The dry-run disaster training continued into 2012 when the marathon, “deployed the Next-Generation Incident Command System…” The NICS is a, “sort of real-time virtual whiteboard developed by the Lincoln Laboratory, a federally funded research center at MIT.”
    This presentation put out by Richard Serino, the former Chief of Boston EMS, describes some of the aspects of these, “planned disasters.” It is titled, “Marathons – A Tale of Two Cities and the Running of a Planned Mass Casualty Event.” The document itself is not dated but the URL includes the year 2008. Under the section titled, “Collaboration” it recommends utilizing, “special events and drills as opportunities to plan and train together…” The subsection titled, “Working with the Media,” states, “Their mission is to get a story. Building a longstanding relationship with journalists and reporters ensures that they get the right story and that they serve as a resource when needed.” Serino was appointed by Obama as FEMA’s Deputy Administrator in 2009.
    Another presentation by Serino, dated, “sept 2007″ in the URL , includes the Boston Marathon being used in, “Planned Disasters,” under the section, “Special Operations.”
    So while the public thinks of the Boston Marathon as a yearly sporting event, the government views it as a yearly disaster planning/counter terrorism exercise. Since these exercises have been carried out from at least 2007 to 2012, it seems perfectly reasonable to believe they would have had similar drills this year. In fact an NBC affiliate, Local15TV.com of Mobile Alabama, covered a reliable eyewitness report of this kind of drill taking place at the time of the event. University of Mobile’s Cross Country Coach, Alastair Stevenson, told the local newscasters that, “They kept making announcements on the loud speaker that it was just a drill and there was nothing to worry about. It seemed like there was some sort of threat, but they kept telling us it was just a drill.”
    While alternative websites covered the report, the mainstream media ignored it and failed to follow it up. Instead the job was left to independent journalist Anthony Gucciardi who did what a real journalist should do. He got an interview with the eyewitness, who then confirmed exactly what he had said earlier:
    “At the start at the event, at the Athlete’s Village, there were people on the roof looking down onto the Village at the start. There were dogs with their handlers going around sniffing for explosives, and we were told on a loud announcement that we shouldn’t be concerned and that it was just a drill. And maybe it was just a drill, but I’ve never seen anything like that — not at any marathon that I’ve ever been to. You know, that just concerned me that that’s the only race that I’ve seen in my life where they had dogs sniffing for explosions, and that’s the only place where there had been explosions.”
    Pictures showing a man walking on a rooftop at the scene seem to add weight to the eyewitness observations. Other pictures from the event have surfaced that appear to show members of a private military/security firm who were standing near the finish line at some point before the explosion. Gucciardi compares the pictures of their gear with that of private military/security firm Craft International.

    http://victorypost.com

    fuck damn.....

    No-one is stupid enough to actually authorise running an actual bomb drill during a live public event. The EOD sweeps that did occur are standard procedure at any large public event.

    The NICS is nothing odd - it's just software that links together the current software systems that they have. They're integrated systems for command purposes.

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    The yellow strat with the maple neck. is it just the light or are those frets Scolloped out I think Ritchie Blackmore does that .

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    That scolloped neck is pretty sweet, hows it feel to play?

    It's a JYM strat (malmsteen). Really deep scallops. Great for string bending and heavy vibrato!

    Nice strat Andy!

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    That purple burst is gorgeous. And the Warmoth website is great, just checking out all their stuff now.

    Hmm, I should show your pictures to my wife, maybe that will help to convince her that my three guitars are not nearly enough :devil:

    Just remind her of her shoe collection...

    and white lie about the price of guitars and amps - they probably white lie about the cost of their shoes and products hehe

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  14. Posted · Edited by botanika

    Awesome Botanika, thanks! You have some very nice guitars :)

    I love the strats in the first pic, flame maple? How did you do the sunburst on the top body? Is it sprayed on or rubbed on like Wudtone?

    (I haven't made or assembled any yet but have been looking at a bunch of kits since I started playing again recently. I'm keen to get my creative juices flowing again, you could say it's my current obsession :) )

    Thanks heaps for posting those pics!

    Oh I just ordered the bodies from Warmoth in the USA - they have a showcase gallery with bodies already made so I bought the purple burst and washed black quilted top from there along with a neck or two. The washed black has a 70's neck on it and I installed an arcade killswitch. The purple burst is awesome going from maple flame to a deep quilt. Both have chambered mahogany bodies with a maple cap so they're light but resonant. I don't have the skills to make guitars entirely...I just put bits together and solder in the pickups. I've painted the VH guitars though but that's pretty easy - spray cans and tape! Cheers

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    I'd also like to see some of your guitar collection Botanika. I've recently started playing again. Do you dabble in luthiery?

    Not a luthier but I have put together guitars and painted a few. Haven't got photos of everything...but here's a taste

    A couple of recent Warmoth builds

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    I like strats

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    Jarrell black sparkle

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    Ibanez jazz

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    Gibson R7

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    Gibson ’61 Reissue

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    Washburn N4

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    Pointy and flowery

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    Real men play tele’s

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    ESP

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    Van Halen style guitars (some home made)

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    Vintage Japanese guitars

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    The rabble

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  19. Posted · Edited by botanika

    what do they claim haarp is actually for? I mean if there is no evidence of anything sinister, why do we spend all this money building them all over the world?

    'Study of Ionospheric physics and radio science'. They are not building specific HAARP facilities 'all over the world'. There are a few other related facilities in the US and europe. Naturally the Australian Bureau of Meteorology, in network with other regional and international observation groups, also studies the ionosphere. As it should - adverse conditions in space environment can cause disruption of satellite operations, communications and navigation, leading to a variety of socio economic losses. Radio wave propagation in the upper atmosphere is a complex phenomenon and manifests itself differently for different types of systems. I have no idea of it's relative funding significance to other scientific facilities though.

    On another note, weather manipulation has been taking place since the Vietnam war...FACT.

    Many countries are quite open about its use, especially in arid agricultural areas, but it can't perform miracles.

  20. Posted · Edited by botanika

    You're right if you mean there's no mainstream reports or admissions. There are however plenty of reliable sources to contest it's real time activity in Aust, you just won't find em in your Sunday herald. Me or anybody else saying "we know such and such" or "I've spoken with such and he said X" won't weigh in on an Internet forum, I just wanted to reiterate that they ARE seeding and flooding its country, so why wouldn't they be using other technologies under advisement from our strongest allies?! The site at exmouth was only recently handed over to the Aust govt, after it went under massive upgrades an overhauls. I believe that information is publically available.

    The US government and military have never tried to cover up their HAARP facility, why should Australia if it had one?

    Regarding the Alaskan facility:

    • HAARP, while not a public facility as such, hold open house events for anybody interested (typically during the summer).
    • HAARP among their research staff employ foreign nationals
    • HAARP has maximum output power delivered to the antenna array of 3.6MW, less delivered and absorbed in the ionosphere - effectively the intensity is less than 3uW/cm2, which is much, much less energy than is absorbed from space.
    • HAARP has very limited directional variability, in other words it pretty much sends the emitted energy straight up (+/-15 degrees).
    • The ionosphere is a fluid dynamic system and one cannot reflect anything off it and expect it to hit a certain spot
    • Weather happens in the troposphere, not in the ionosphere which is much higher.

    There is no evidence australia has a 'HAARP' facility (like Alaska) or that HAARP transmissions are, or can be, used to intentionally influence weather in dramatic ways (or purposefully against civilians to cause loss of life and damage).

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    Botanica, do you also think its rubbish our govt commissioned weather modification before and during the 2010-2011 floods across nsw/qld? Do a quick google search before you answer tho ;)

    What I am saying is there is no reliable evidence that HAARP exists in australia.

    Cloud seeding is not HAARP.

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    Try Shiva run by some Jamaicans. They have a cave like area downstairs and its usually quiet. Smokeys is always a good laugh sitting outside overlooking the plaza and sipping those caramello hot chocolates.

    I forget its name but there is a coffeeshop behind the flower markets in a parallel side street run by a japanese guy. Its really good for a quite morning toke, coffee and paper read. He played some excellent japanese chill out music that was unsual when I was there late last year.

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