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You can buy cheap programmable UHF radios that can use dts/ctcss/dcs codes if you want more privacy or your own channel. Some cover just the CB bands, others go out of band

This The future of america will be more of the same. Expect more financial crashes. It might become like china: a ruling wealthy minority central communist government of Jewish bankers and media running a mass of mixed race people who through multiculturalism have lost ties to their original cultural identity and strength to fight back. During WWII Germany and japan opposed private banking - we should have let them continue instead of letting America into the war. We got scammed. The British empire collapsed, china went into a cultural revolution, the third world went further into chaos and the US had the federal reserve steal away it's liberty.

There are some fears that are fairly primal like loosing your parents - I would loose my mum in a shopping mall all the time when dresses or shoes were on sale - or the fear of water/drowning - or the fear of going to school the first time. But other fears are quite profound and directly the result of the media, intentionally or not. Its quite amazing to ponder what imagery we grow up with. Nukes It probably started for me around 1978 - as a 6 year old my parents snuck me and my sister in the boot to see star wars at the drive in (remember those days!). I was pretty young but I can still remember bits and pieces of star wars. That didn't give me much fear, it was awesome, but the movie beforehand did. It was a B grade film called 'Damnation Alley' starring George Peppard. I know the films name because I saw it many many years later on late night TV and kinda laughed that it had scared me so much as a kid. The film though was about nuclear holocaust and was set in the desert with all these giant scorpions and stuff. It was really the nuclear bomb that did it. This continued into school where I think I can remember we even did bomb drills (late 70's early 80's) of hiding under our desks (as if thats going to help you from a 20 megaton atomic bomb!). The media at the time was quite acute in expressing the potential of nuclear war if it broke out and endless footage of bomb tests in Arizona and Bikini Atoll showed clearly the immense scale of destruction possible. Growing up then, for a period, there was this fear that the whole world could be obliterated by nuclear war. Thankfully that hasn't happened, but that is a huge fear to take on board versus natural world fears. War There's so many war documentaries eventually as a kid you end up seeing some bad stuff on TV even if your parents supervise well. I remember being about 8 or 9 and seeing part of a program on Vietnam my dad was watching. It was mostly harmless but then on came some of those shocking scenes - the bullet in the head, Napalm, a school hit by a bomb and footage of a child being carried away with intestines hanging out. World War 2 documentaries seemed too far back in time - too abstract with the old grainy black and white footage and overdubbed sounds. But Vietnam was the first truly televised war and mostly in full colour. It seemed more realistic and immediate. Despite loving to play war as a child the idea that war could happen to anyone anywhere was quite disturbing. Animals might fear predation, or not finding food, but they are not continually confronted with being bombed by napalm or land mines. Murder Then in my early teens I rented a film from the video store one day called 'Killing of America'. Had I watched it as an 18 year old I would have been ok but as a 14/15 year old I was still quite sensitive and innocent. The film was made in the very early 80's and had a fairly spooky voiced narrator that helped emphasize the ghoulish subject matter. It was all about murder in america from serial killers to snipers to the late 60's riots. It was quite disturbing to see interviews with remorseless serial killers, imagery of bodies being dug out from shallow forest graves and footage of people being shot. That film haunted me for a while. If I wasnt wiped out by a nuke, I could be cut up into pieces by a serial killer. Funnel Webs and Great White Sharks Also as a teenager, and as I was exploring more bushland and the ocean, I became both fascinated by and scared of dangerous animals. The media would contradict itself by discussing the brutality of a shark attack whilst also playing it down for tourist reasons. Funnel web spiders were routinely talked about in terms of 'how long you will last before dying', 'these things will rest in your shoe waiting for your foot'. These are natural animals to be scared of but to this day I have never seen a funnel web or great white shark. The media exaggerates the fear for ratings (profit). Terror Then 911 came along later in life and the shear intesity of the footage just made my jaw drop. People falling from 80 storey windows, buildings collapsing into streets of dust, victims with skin hanging off them, planes slamming into buildings seemingly all over the place. The media presenting this fear that terror could happen anywhere, anytime. 911 accelerated the use of fear and the conspiracy theories happily added their icing on the cake. Had I lived on a farm with no access to the media at all I still would have had all sorts of fears but they would be immediate 'be careful of that cliff', 'there's a brown snake - hope it doesn't bite', 'my dad's on a long muster - hope he doesn't fall off his horse' etc. They are real and difficult fears but nothing compared to the sheer scope of fear the media has infiltrated our lives with. Peace Im now living overseas and a strange thing has happened. I have stopped watching the general media, primarily because I dont understand the local language here and so I dont bother watching local TV. I can't get much overseas media and Im not really into sat TV. Instead I tend to read more books, watch DVD's and occassionaly stuff at my leisure on youtube etc. I dont have to watch adverts, I dont read the newspapers, I dont watch crummy big brother shows and I dont miss anything I had before. I spend more time on my own projects - recording music, painting, organising expeditions with friends. I still of course watch some horrific fearful stuff but Im older and watch it when I want to. Anyway I dont know if there's a point to what Im saying except that the media places this layer of fear over society that is quite extraordinary and in many ways unnaturally burdening when you think about it. Since living overseas I have lost touch with it and it truly feels like a weight lifted off my shoulders. Every time I return to australia I find myself switching off the TV or not bothering with newspapers because it seems to re-inforce danger, terror, arguments ('I dont like it'), death, disgrace and corruption. I know those things exist but I dont need to have them thrust down my throat every single minute. The essential news will filter through no matter what, but the rest seems like more of a distraction in the end. By watching the news all we are doing is fearing ourselves unneccessarily and supporting big media cartels and their advertisers getting rich in the process. I thoroughly recommend not watching the news and most of the junk on TV. There are far too many other better things to be doing in life. Live like a happy child and smile.

iPhone. Htc (which also makes the experia) make some decent phones but they fall apart pretty quickly.

I would love to go to burning man one day. As a designer, artist, musician and hippy at heart it looks like crazy fun! Any SAB crew members been and would like to share their experiences?

... it may only be 10% of posts on this board ;)

The media military zionists have been doing this for ages, they didn't already know this?

The hate progaganda specialists of Hollywoodstein, Joogle and Jutube have made the internet a virtual culture gangbanging whorehouse casino. The internet is the new bible and we are lemmings praying to the screen, reciting hymns of 'teh pwned brootlz ftw lol' and cut and pasting Yahoo scripture. We bite into the Apple macbook of eden. If they took down the internet we might go out and invent something nice or paint tribal colours over ourselves or start talking to our neighbors about Israel and growing watermelons. Maybe WE should just not use the internet. See you all in the park in ten?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jul/24/internet-anonymity-trolling-tim-adams In a totally democratized, anonymous sea of chatter, how am I supposed to get attention for my starved ego without obnoxiously magnifying my opinions 100-fold?

Yes cultural aspects, like aussie rules, would likely be assimilated or continued (some might be completely obliterated as well (like cricket!)) and yes the strength of an invading, migrating or populating culture would be influencial as can be seen in the european colonies of Africa. But the underlying condition is that civilisations are a product of the people that create them and if the original people are displaced, removed or assimilated by another that civilisation usually falls or can longer be maintained to its original state. Naturally many first world European countries do not want to be displaced by 3rd world populations just as an amazon tribe doesn't want to be displaced by industrialization. If enough indigeneous australians moved to China and displaced the Chinese population, China would reflect the majority indigeneous population. If they physically wiped out the chinese and remained ethnocentric the chinese cultural legacies continued would be less if at all, if they assimilated and mixed with the chinese they would become a mixed race. It doesn't matter how strong or weak the Chinese culture is - if enough people from another race/culture move there, the society will change to reflect that new culture. Egypt is a classic example of a mixed race culture. Sometimes different races/cultures will take over another and in the end claim the original civilisation is their own. Again Egypt is a classic example of this. Other times an occupying new culture or race cannot keep up the sophistication of the original people such as can be seen in the white flight areas of the USA (like Detriot). Its all matters of degree. The Roman and British were also fairly similar racially (both european) so it was a somewhat easier assimilation there. In reverse many christian/catholic motifs, language and symbology are directed pulled from the original pagan/norse culture of Britain.

Hey EG I certainly don't condone this guy but I am only being presented with what the media shows me and its becoming lethargic grieving every 3 minutes for the latest CNN bomb and blame report. This stuff happens all over the place whether it's Kabul or Tasmania. I tire of the media circus that erupts every time something awful happens and it seems to always lean back to: 'Its your fault', 'revenge!', 'he's evil but it's ok because I'm good and would never do that', 'This is beyond evil and I just want to pray to the lord above for hope and thunder bolts', 'can we hang him already', 'Look everybody - it was him who dunnit!', 'No-one is to stone anyone until I blow this whistle, even if they do say Jehovah'. I really like the norweigen quote from before that maintains Norways course of 'we will not be worse because of the worst. We must be good because of the best'. There is no 'best' race - there are good and bad people and good and bad motives. One man blows up children and is promoted to General, another sentanced to death. It is the conflict between people that needs to be addressed. Why is it that middle eastern people suicide bomb or blow up civilians practically every day and we never know much about the actual perpretrator in question yet the media goes nutz when it's a Norweigan? The geopolitical influences between the two are often not that far apart. I don't discourage grieving or that the tragedy is insignificant but I want to know why it happened and how we can try change the media's game show theatre where anyone can get 5 minutes of fame, if they kill or offend enough people. Im also de-sensitised to horror now because of the media. As I wrote in other thread - I grew up as a kid thinking we might be blown up in Nuclear War with Russia! haha. The media will deal out answers like Las Vegas chips but what about Anders defense? Why couldn't we hear Bin Ladens defense? Does anyone remember Saddam Husseins defense? The Charles Manson case set a precedent: The Prosecution and Media made it 'helter skelter' - it won the case and didn't let the 'vulnerable' public get hold of why it really happened. In the Manson case the truth was that he was a conman, a drug dealer and pimp, who happened to be known within a few celebrity circles who came to the end of a string of bad decisions or reactions that ended in bloodied knives and guns. Did he get what he deserved with a life sentance? Maybe, maybe not. But in the Media's eyes he became the evil that was in the hippy generation: the protestors to war and preachers of free and love. He became a 'Satanic mind controlling LSD monster'. He became the mythical chief of an anti black, anti american, and possibly anti Beatles 'helter skelter' race war. The horrors his 'family' committed are evident and spectacularly brutal, especially because Sharon Tate was beautiful and famous, but the process behind what created the brutality has been distorted so many people still dont know why it happened. Is it going to be any different with Anders? Is this guy just another madmen who has taken some crazied literary and media soundbytes into a manifesto and seeks macabre fame to relieve himself from the drudgery of sloshy cynical Norway life? Is he a real actvist with a passion for getting a point across, a bumbling wannabe activist whose girlfriend left him recently for a musician or will the media label him 'whatever killer 2011', only to be forgotten about by next week when the media find a bigger loot of crazied geographic bloodshed, bombed children and baby rescues. It either takes someone who is very angry or very crazy to do something like Anders did. If he's 'just crazy' ok fine. But if he's angry I want to know truly what for. BTW This is not all directed at you EG! Or anyone else - Im just spouting words into the ether...

It's not a case of better or worse. It's cause and effect and if you think the world would be better without whites then I feel really sad because white people have also brought a hell of a lot of good - why else would so many people want to imigrate to white homelands? If white nations are not good why aren't we all immigrating to Nigeria or India? Why arent the 'oppressed blacks' of america fleeing back to the caribbean? Were all following ideals that get distorted and mixed and the mix is often volatile just like when two chemicals come together like a bomb. I'm mixed race and have gone and married an Asian girl - my son is a triple whammy- but I don't want white people gone anymore than I want lost tribes of the amazon gone. You have to ask the question 'are the problems of the world the result of the types of people we have or the amount of people we have or the dynamic between people?' Personally I like diversity of people but don't like overpopulations of people and want to learn more about the dynamics between racial conflicts. I wouldn't wish any types of people to vanish. White people have vanished in the past (the old Mediterranean race). If anything anti white racism is the most prevalent of all and often the most difficult to discuss. It's interesting you mention making people disappear because that is exactly what has happened in china - one of the reasons there are not many rebellious and anti social people in china is because they were and are taken out of the gene pool. Do we really want to be like that? I would much prefer Norway's tolerant attitude thanks. Yes the Norway incident is tragic and we should grieve - were all still grieving about the Indonesian earthquake and japan meltdown aren't we? Were grieving about overpopulated and starving india arent we? Are we grieving at the loss of life both the middle east and US military cause each day? Are we grieving for the 40 odd people that died on Saturday near taizhou in a train crash? (I was onboard the exact same train earlier in the day from Wuxi to shanghai btw). Once a week via the media we are globally supposed to grieve for something horrific like its some communion. Why can't we address why this happened and what the gunmans motives truly were? Thousands of people die each day, none of it is pleasant and hardly any of it is addressed because the media wants scapegoats and a blonde aryan norweigen is dynamite dollars for the media. I'm tired of the 'hitler was evil' 'bin laden is evil' 'Martin Bryant crazy dude' tripe - I want to know how we can prevent such things in the future. What kind of society produces serial killers and terrorists? No one man is truly evil - they are ultimately a product of their society and in Norway's case, its a changing society.

What's happening in europe is a replay of events that led to the fall of ancient european civilisations. 'All the great events in history have a racial basis: the very ebb and flow of history is understood only when it is seen that all of history is the result of racial or sub-racial shifts in power; of tribes and nations conquering others; of lands being occupied by different races and by racial conflict.' The fact of the world's current geopolitical stage is that non white lands (code: 'less developed nations') are overpopulating and migrating (code: becoming 'non nationals') whilst the white lands (code: 'developed nations' - i.e. Norway) head towards native population decline. That trend coupled with environmental stress and resource competition is the template for what will unfold in the 21st century. We can bicker about whether he's crazy or not, or how he should be punished or is it a NWO conspiracy or not but the hard facts are right in front of us: Europe, America, Australia, Canada and New Zealand are all changing. A civilisation rises and falls along with its originating population: This is the great lesson of history which applies to any race in any country. Once the racial composition of a society changes, than that society itself changes. Unless checked, the demographic trends show conclusively that whites will be a minority in Europe, America and Australia by 2100. If you think people like this should dissapear 'the sooner the better', well that's exactly whats happening. Ignore the mass media hype and look at the deeper demographic trends and issues at stake in europe.

While his actions are violent, possibly insane and not condoned, some of his reasons are valid. Civilisations rise and fall based on their racial homegenity. Europe, the USA, the UK and Australia are slowly going down the gurgler because of this. It's not neccessarily anyones fault - it's a complexity of cause and effect - and often by good intention (immigration and multiculturalism is bourne out of good intention but can have disasterous long term consequences). The world is sad only if you let it be that way and that's exactly what this guy let himself into - otherwise it's more of the same. History is violent and cruel, evolution is violent and cruel. It's also full of love but that unfortunately doesn't get written about as much. All over the world people express love far more than they express hate - its just that hate ends up being continually written about. Just because the Media focusses on the hate and the blame doesn't mean we have to. He should have learnt from the Unabomber and The Weathermen that it won't make a positive difference in the end. He'll go down in history for exactly what he is: a murderer. What he should have done is used his Geofarm to grow a huge load of flowers and dumped them at strategic locations. He could have let off art bombs that splash coloured jackson pollock paint over industrial buildings. All these terrorists lack one thing: Artistic Creativity. Quoting a young survivor: "If one man can show that much hate, think of how much love we all can show together". And another young Norweigen paraphrasing the Prime Minister Stoltenberg: "In the safest, most boring country, the worst lone gunman shooting happens. The worst in the world, in history. But it will not make our country worse. The safe, boring democracy will supply him with a defense lawyer as is his right. He will not get more than 21 years in prison as is the maximum extent of the law. Our democracy does not allow for enough punishment to satisfy my need for revenge, as is its intention. We will not become worse, we will be better. We lived in a land where this is possible, even easy. And we will keep living in a land where this is possible, even easy. We are open, we are free and we are together. We are vulnerable by choice. And we will keep on like that, that's how we want to live. We will not be worse because of the worst. We must be good because of the best."

Deep down you already know it won't work out. Be comfortable with that and happy for all the good experiences you had together. Start chatting up some new girls. I agree with the puppy analogy...except I would suggest finding a sex kitten. Ultimatums are pretty much useless in these situations with women as is spilling your heart. When I broke up with a long term ex in my 20's it took a while to get over it. If you date a girl for 4 years it can take half that time, 2 years, to truly get over it. I used to go out mountain biking. It takes your mind away from things. I.e. do something physical that distracts your mind and gets endorphins and fresh blood pumping.

I reckon it's awesome. If it looks good, it is good.

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The virus ones are funny because 1) more people die each year from the common cold and 2) a virus would ultimately be a very unsuccessful organism if it wiped out it's host species! Bonsai's are great. Ive got two on my balcony. Ones realy old and has an uber gnarly trunk. Better to look at green than a screen.

Nope. My children will be my afterlife. I hope I provide a nice tree with some nutrients when I die.

There used to be a boat that went around pittwater with a coffee machine and muffins onboard. Good job - boating around picturesque waterways selling coffee to rich guys on their yachts and sexy girls in bikini's at the beach!

A lot of History comes from stories, predominantly within religious, cultural or political bias. History is based on books written by previous generations of historians, who based their works on works of previous generations of historians, supplemented by archeological digs (great deal of assumptions made as people didn't usually mark their belongings with dates), so what mathematical or scientific treatment has been applied to history? The official historical timeline is accepted in the same way as gravity, and the movement of the sun; many nations have developed their identity based on official history but how much of the documents, places, names and dates have be accurately proven via contemporary scientific testing and methodology? How accurate is radio carbon dating in historical times? Are many ancient civilisations younger and more condensed than commonly thought? History textbooks and documentaries love to show us nice illustrations and re-enactments but where is the hard conclusive mathematical and empirical testing? A lot of people just accept history as fact. 'The story has been told for a long time - it must be true'. So few physical records have survived hundreds, let alone thousands of years that it casts even the most conventional understanding of what really happened into doubt. The dominating historical discourse in its current state was essentially crafted in the 16th century from a contradictory jumble of sources such as innumerable copies of ancient Latin and Greek manuscripts whose originals had vanished in the 'Dark Ages' and the allegedly irrefutable proof offered by late mediaeval astronomers, resting upon the power of ecclesial authorities. The Old Testament even seems to refer to mediaeval events. Ancient history is based on evidence "discovered" since the 15th century and arranged into a spurious standard timeline in the 18th century. (In some cases, the evidence was discovered much more recently: some Eastern religious texts were only uncovered in the 20th century.) It can be argued that all those ancient chronicles are different versions of events which really happened roughly between 1000 AD and 1400 AD. After a relatively short-lived Eurasian empire disintegrated, each nation made up their own version of the empire's history, and generally each new version of the story was set farther back into the past than the previous one. (The newest version is the Hindu Krishna myth which is set about 10,000 years before the present day.) It may be possible that human evolution is far more linear, gradual and irreversable than previously thought. Were all these ancient histories as ancient as they claimed? The compilation of the so-called Ancient Chinese History is reliably datable to the 17-18th century only. It is recognizable as the Ancient European history, reworked and transcribed in hieroglyphs as yet another historical transplantation. The civilization of Ancient Egypt is irrefutably dated to the 12-15th century A. D. with the aid of the ancient Egyptian horoscopes cut in stone. Islam with all its key figures is datable to the 15th/16th century A. D. We know strictly NOTHING about the events that predate the 10th century A. D. This is the basis of Anatoly Formenko's work: http://www.amazon.com/History-mathematical-statistics-Eclipses-Chronology/dp/2913621074/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1310353784&sr=1-1 I don't know myself but thought it could be an interesting discussion. Id certainly like to see more science in history. Its obviously highly controversial so like any revisionist theories it has its opponents however a convergence of mathematics, statistics, rigorous scientific testing and more accurate dating/cronology along with contemporary genetics could re-write history. It may be a completely different story to what we learned at school. Discuss

Yeah it's funny, Australians are so well travelled yet were still stuck with 1970's milk bars. Street food is amazing in Asia. They say Australia is a BBQ nation yet our bbs's generally consist of steak, chops, sausages and coleslaw. Seasoning is tomato sauce. America kicks our arse when it comes to BBQ and chilli cookoffs. Mexican food in Australia - forget about it. We could have so much more in Australia - our streets at night could be really interesting but we choose to sit indoors in our suburbs watching burkes backyard or the footy show. That's the price of freedom: good ideas are met with regulations and the 'not in my backyard' sydrone. I suggest the hotdog party push for late night shopping every night, street food streets - a permanent carnival atmosphere. And dancing Gogo girls!

Nice. I just saw your new ones but I like these better. Warmer colours.

Interesting discussion. What about animals that can count?

Mona vale pub - god that brings back some memories. The surf rock in collaroy! Oh thats a pokie machine den now. Go visit the rsl back of narrabeen, don't think it has changed in years. Schoona's might still be 2 bucks there. Used to work in Pittwater many years ago, but lived in the city. Best of both worlds for a while. Can't say I miss either now I must say! There is Slamet's Indonesian Restaurant in North Narrabeen. Have never been there so have no idea what its like sorry.