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Hey guys, I just wrote a final update on Indiegogo and I want to share it here too. There were many people who bought a copy outside of Indiegogo and it just feels great to share this final update on SAB too. It´s my pleasure to let you know that all the books are shipped. I literally just finished loading the last boxes on the Deutsche Post Truck and the books are on the way to y´all now. The first that will get them are EU and Germany, and the shipping time to non-EU countries is 2-6 weeks. Most will arrive sooner, but it also depends on the speed of the carrier in your home countries. All books are shipped, without exceptions and all books are numbered, signed and stamped. The books look terrific and we are all very proud. Together with the book, you will also get some additional flyers and postcards to make sure you have plenty of fun when you unpack everything. I tried to give everyone the lowest number possible, but there were situations when I went with a higher number in favor of a more beautiful book. I wanted to make sure you all get perfect books without any scratches or dents and that was my top priority. All numbers from the campaign are below 300 and come stamped with the official Trichocereus.net stamp of approval. ;) Nothing more to say now and I don´t want to drag this on for too long. Thank you all for your support and patience. It´s been an honor that I was given the chance to write this book for you and I hope you will enjoy your copy of THE SAN PEDRO GROUP. If you have any questions or in case the shipping takes unnaturally long, just let me know!

Hey mate, glad to see some of the seedlings! I will reactivate this thread sometime in the next week with a new batch of seeds!

Hey mate, that´s Haageocereus acranthus.

Hey guys, thank you very much. Greatly appreciated. Didn´t really celebrate because I was packing all the books today. I wanna make sure you can unpack them asap. Hope you like it!

Hey mate, on the first look I´d say it´s Trichocereus pasacana. The spines and areoles are too different from the ones on a T. werdermannianus and T. terscheckii is usually not so spiny at that size.

Hey guys, just an update here on SAB. The books were just cleared by customs and shipping starts as soon as I have the books here.

Totally agree that this is caused by way too much water and cold weather. The splitting is the direct result of the plant taking in more water than it can hold and the most of the other problems are caused by a combo of too much rain, cold weather and not the right soil. The soil is the least of the problems though. I think it´s just the wrong climate for this way of growing cacti outside. If you are from the Netherlands and intend to overwinter the plant outside I do not think it will make it. Very few cacti can manage the wet European winters and Trichocereus are none of them. You will need a greenhouse or something like that.

Tried that because, you know, science, but I didn´t feel anything. LOL

Ha Ha. :-D You know, we are all hybrid lovers here and I appreciate it when we are having a discussion about stuff like this. There is no right or wrong about this because the number of genetic possibilities is endless. For every rule, there is an exception and everything is possible with hybrids. Nature is full of hybrids and hybridization play an important part in evolution and the basic concept of survival of the fittest. I am not a geneticist and I can only judge about the experiences I made in practice. I know that I have to cross for many generations until I get the best possible results and it´s just rare that you have crazily uncommon F1s right away. I wish that would not be the case because it would make hybrid cultivation a lot easier. I know growers that dump loads of seedlings every year because they outcome was too normal compared to the parents. I am not one of them because I hate to throw viable plants away, but it´s common in the circles where every grower has special goals and objectives. So yeah, I just wanted to make sure everyone knows that I do not question that there are many cool hybrids. I am in the middle of cataloguing hybrids for my book and I´ve seen some remarkable plants. It´s just that there are many normal ones too and I don´t want to give anyone a false viewpoint of hybrid cultivation. Getting great hybrids can sometimes take many generations and hundreds of plants. Breeding life forms in general is a very rewarding, complex and interesting subject and everyone who deals with it ends up with more respect towards the general principles of life. It´s a crazy world we live in and it´s just fun to play around with this.

Are all your colleagues growing t. scop/cordo hybrids etc or are you talking about Echinopsis hybrids?? Cactus hybrids. Everything. Every breeder has a different field of expertise, but most of the crosses are with Trichocereus and Echinopsis. There also are crosses with Ariocarpus, Lophophora, Hildewintera, Ferocactus, Astrophytum, Epiphyllum, Turbinicarpus, Soehrensia, Lobivia, and so on. Botanically, T. cordobensis is nothing special. It is a cactus like any other. I don’t disagree with your comments about hybridizing, but surely every genus in Cactaceae isn’t the same case??? I would recommend that you look into the general principles of hybridization. Not only Mendel’s laws, but also about dominance, which take place between crosses of different species. There is more to genetics than Mendel´s laws and a phenotype is a complex construct consisting of various traits. Here is a quote about F1 hybrids, which is especially important. It is safe to say that there is less variation within the F1 than there is in further hybrid generations like the F2, F3, etc. Most great hybrids that are produced over many generations and the stabilization of hybrids is a necessity. Homogeneity and predictability—The genes of individual plant or animal F1 offspring of homozygous pure lines display limited variation, making their phenotype uniform and therefore attractive for mechanical operations and easing fine population management. Once the characteristics of the cross are known, repeating this cross yields exactly the same result. Also interesting is this part on monohybrid crosses: Generally, the monohybrid cross is used to determine the dominance relationship between two alleles. The cross begins with the parental (P1 or P) generation. One parent is homozygous for one allele, and the other parent is homozygous for the other allele. The offspring make up the first filial (F1) generation. Every member of the F1 generation is heterozygous. Crossing two members of the F1 generation produces the second filial (F2) generation. Probability theory predicts that three quarters of the F2 generation will have the dominant allele's phenotype. And the remaining quarter of the F2s will have the recessive allele's phenotype. When the F2 generation numbers several hundred or more, the observed results are very close to the predicted results. There are principles in genetics that apply to every plant. Alternatively, would you say that the principles of evolution or genetics are different for certain animals or only apply to apes, but not to chickens? Our world has some very strict laws of nature. There are some underlying principles that are needed to make evolution possible...one of which is phenotypic variation and the ability for a certain life form to branch off into a different direction. Here is an excerpt about phenotypic variation: Phenotypic variation (due to underlying heritable genetic variation) is a fundamental prerequisite for evolution by natural selection. It is the living organism as a whole that contributes (or not) to the next generation, so natural selection affects the genetic structure of a population indirectly via the contribution of phenotypes. Without phenotypic variation, there would be no evolution by natural selection.[7] Also important is that in many cases, you can only cross species or genera that are botanically close. If your parents are too far away (genetically), the cross fails or you end up having poor health. You can stabilize bad hybrids though. Hybridization plays a part in the large number of different plants grown from just one seedpod, but it´s not the most important reason we are getting wildly variable results from growing cacti from seeds. That is phenotypic variation, as mentioned before. Regardless if you grow hybrids or botanic species. This is a well-known fact and people take advantage of that by raising thousands of seedlings and only selecting the few interesting ones. There certainly are genetic differences between certain plant families, genera and sometimes species and the way they reproduce. There is no doubt about it, but in the greater picture of Trichocereus cultivation Trichocereus scopulicola or the Super Pedro or T. cordobensis are not different to other plants from the same genus. The laws of genetics are complicated and influenced by many factors and genes that are not directly visible. In theory, it is easy to guess the outcome of a cross if you know more about the dominant and recessive genes of the parents, but nature does not work that way because you have no access to these informations. Like mentioned before, there are very dominant fathers, intergeneric crosses, and in all these crosses between species, there is a clear tendency to end up with a large number of seedlings that are similar to the mother´s phenotype. Targeted breeding between certain strains that you want to stabilize by intentionally breeding out certain traits are different story. For eg in my eyes a heap of seed raised spachianus would look identical to me, but my eyes see alot of variation in bridgesii. How many T. spachianus that were grown from seeds (where you really know that they were grown from seeds, not just where it is possible that they were grown from seeds) do you know? Even without knowing the answer to that question, I think it´s safe to say that it´s probably less than the T. bridgesii hybrid seedlings that were grown from seeds that you saw, right? This is not a forum where many people grow Trichocereus spachianus; and the ones that do often times take cuttings from plants that are already mature. If grown from seeds, there is as much variation in Trichocereus spachianus as there is in Trichocereus bridgesii. The more generations, the more variations. All the laws of genetics also apply to Trichocereus spachianus and it´s actually a numbers game to get interesting mutants. Another option is that there is plenty of variability, but you don´t notice it on the first look because it´s more subtle than it is in these T. bridgesii hybrids. Some of the most interesting hybrids in this forum are already in cultivation for many generations, which increases the chance of getting weird offspring. Alternatively, maybe you just saw cultivars that were relatively uniform in their look. Nurseries usually distribute a limited number of stable cultivars because it´s easier to clone them, than it is to grow them from seeds. I just think that these examples arent as small a percentage as you suggest. Okay, how do you know that? I mean, I can only judge about the examples you provided in this thread. One of them has definitely interesting spines and is totally cool. How do you know that the differences in the photos have anything to do with hybridization? In most cases, it´s just the natural variability that lies within these plants. Sure, I never said that hybridization cannot produce T. bridgesii spines on a T. scopulicola. It´s just that the number of "normal" seedlings outnumbers the one of the special ones. Natural variation is not only a concept of hybrids, but of plant evolution itself. The only reason that regional forms and varieties exist is that these plants are so variable and can branch off into different directions all the time. It´s natural selection in effect. Of course this also has to do with natural hybridization, which takes place everywhere. However, if you use this wording then there are no pure species; only hybrids. The ability to produce regional forms is a fundamental element of evolution. It is not only about hybridization...it is about the phenotypic variation of life to make things possible, to create new strains in order to gain an advantage in life. I am certainly unsure about the photos that arent mine, Yeah, but that is an important problem. It´s just not possible to judge about fundamental principles of hybrid cultivation just by looking at photos where there is not enough data available. There is a large number of possibilities for the plants you posted. They can be hybrids, but there are also other options that just cannot be completely ruled out unless you have full control of the whole crossing and plant production, from the pollination to the adult plants. When cleaning seeds, one corn from the wrong fruit is enough and you have a very different plant. I have no doubts that some of the extraordinary hybrids shown here are correctly labeled. I know many people here take hybrid cultivation seriously. It´s just that you do not know anything about the genes of these plants. They could be fifth generation multihybrids, which change many things in the genetic markup. They could be preselected over many generations and it would take thousands of plants to produce a really funky one. Isn´t the name of the one parent “Funkoid”? Sounds like there is something weird going on with his genes, doesn´t it? From a hybrid point of view, it is a very interesting parent that should be used for further crosses. You just cant use that as an example of an average result. You know, please look into the process of hybrid stabilization to know what I mean. Sometimes, it takes generations and hundreds of plants to get one good result within a line of breeding. Sometimes it doesn´t because you have a very dominant father that just happens to meet the right mother under the right conditions.There are dominant fathers and Mendel´s laws have a huge influence on all the traits that these plants produce, but the phenotype is also affected by other factors like dominant genes. When Mendel came up with his ideas about pea genetics, it was pretty much the birth of genetics, but it wasn´t everything. The second plant you posted looks like a typical hybrid with Trichocereus bridgesii as mother. It´s possible that this cross is the result of a very dominant father, but there is also the chance that it is mislabeled...or just a very uncommon hybrid. Maybe it was actually the reverse cross, or maybe a seed corn harvested from another fruit. As I said, I do not want to speculate because everything is possible here. I do not question the existence of dominant fathers, but I share my first hand experiences about dominant phenotypes and the frequency I encounter them. I just don´t think that the two photos you shown disprove anything I wrote before. I don´t know how often I wrote about natural variability, so I do not want to repeat it again here. I just think that every case is unique and produces different results and with growers like zelly, interbeing, masterB producing hundreds and hundreds of fruits, we are starting to (and will continue) see some very interesting, strange and unexpected plants.... These days, many growers produce hundreds of fruits per year and even over multiple generations. It´s just logical that the number of weird hybrids goes up...but at the same time, I see very normal hybrids being posted all over our forums and groups and it´s rare that some of them are showing traits that I wouldn´t expect. It happens, but it´s rare. One of the reasons for this is that most of these hybrid crosses are not targeted and are not done over generations, as you would normally do if you would want to stabilize some traits. In addition, some of the hybrids produced are third or fourth generation, which means the risk of bringing out hybrid traits that are not visible in the F1 generation, is getting higher the more you stabilize a hybrid line. I see many hybrids a week. Many growers post the results in our Facebook group, and the number of plants that are very normal for what they are is much higher than the ones with irregularities. There are traits which are very variable, eg spine length, spine color, epidermis color, flower color, etc. The fathers have a great influence on some of these, but there are also limits to their dominance. Mostly because a large number of the F1s, which tend to follow the phenotype of the mother or the father instead of a mix between the traits of the father and the mother. Depending on their genes, and in all these cases (and later crosses with the same parents) the dominant parent will be the dominant one. Some traits can be produced depending on the genetic situation, but the overall phenotype is something different and affected by more than one factor. We are talking about something very fundamentally here; most of the plants we see here are hybrids between certain species, not even hybrids between certain forms of the same species. I don´t find it surprising that a T. bridgesii that was pollinated with the pollen of a T. scopulicola ends up producing plants that are (roughly) of the same species as the mother itself. You know, the fruit ripened on the mother, so there has to be a close genetic proximity in order to get a successful fruit and seedlings, wouldn´t you think? In hybrid cultivation, it happens a lot that seedlings die off because the parents were a genetic mismatch and in many cases the pollination fails. The chance of success is higher if the outcome of a cross is very viable in a genetic sense. And in many cases, this means that there has to be a certain proximity, otherwise the miosis does not work. I find that quite normal actually. Do not confuse dominant and recessive traits with a complete reversal of the resulting species. It is unusual that Trichocereus bridgesii suddenly produces Trichocereus scopulicola seedlings. It is not impossible, but I just haven´t seen it as often as the other way around. And many other growers with years of experience agree. The color of the flower is a different story entirely and I totally agree that Mendel´s laws have a huge influence on flower color or certain traits like long spines, but it is more rare that you suddenly grow a T. scopulicola out of a T. bridgesii fruit. The same applies to pure species in the sense of the botanic definition. One last thing that is important to me because I feel like there is some confusion about that here: I do not question natural variability or phenotypic variation. I know that there are plants that have longer or shorter spines. That´s very normal and is not directly related to hybridization. You would have the same if you´d cross non-hybrids with each other.

Both are Trichocereus bridgesii. Not sure if hybrids or not...if you buy seeds on the market that are not labeled as hybrid seeds, it often is just Bridgesii seeds from nature. There is quite some variability to be expected from seed grown plants. Sellers sometimes mix the seeds and offer it as just one strain, which then consists of a few strains.

It´s a Pachycereus pringlei.

It´s been publicized by numerous high profile breeders, eg Robert Gräser who published articles on hybrids during his lifetime. Germany has a very prolific hybrid breeding scene and most of my colleagues make 300-500 crosses a year and also raise them in order to get perfect flowers. A high number of crosses is needed, because there is a high percentage of discard. These are either hybrids which are pretty much identical to the mother (which is why they are discarded, especially when the breeder wants to get a great flower that is different from the flower of the parents) or which are just too similar to the botanic form to keep on breeding with them. I already mentioned that there are exceptions, so I am not surprised to see a Scop with longer spines and what is not shown are all the normal ones, the hundreds of hybrids that are commonly identified as "pure Scop" because it´s not possible to recognize them as the hybrids they are. I love to see new hybrids and I am glad for every good hybrid I see, even if they are somewhat normal. It´s just normal that for every unique plant you will have to raise twenty times as many totally standard ones. That´s okay because hybrids are awesome, but it´s just everyday life for a hybrid breeder. And it´s not only that, but you can also expect the same variability when growing botanically pure Trichocereus specimens from seeds. It´s totally normal that you have a wide variety of traits within the seedlings grown from the same batch of seeds. In reality, this is nothing else than evolution in full effect, but it has less to do with hybrid cultivation than it has with the natural variability of cacti in general. So yeah, sure there are remarkable plants, but there also are thousands of totally normal plants. I have archives that are filled with photos where you would never think that you are looking at a hybrid. There will always be remarkable plants and dominant fathers among them, but it takes a lot of selection to get to that point. Like mentioned before, there is something that is called natural variability, which can be misinterpreted as being the result of a hybrid pollination too. Raise 100 seedlings from one fruit, and you will end up with all kinds of different spine lengths, colors, sizes, etc. Regardless if you grow pure or hybrid seeds. Exceptions confirm the rules and it sometimes takes generations of breeding to get a great hybrid. Some other times, you get lucky and have tons of interesting hybrids just from one fruit. You never know which one it is, but the odds definitely follow certain patterns. When dealing with stuff like DNA and genetics, many things can influence the outcome of a cross, but in regards to the phenotype the mothers are usually more dominant.

The flower morphology on the Super Pedro makes it clear that it is a Scop. There is a very fat type of Scop that was described as Trichocereus crassicostatus by the original describer Friedrich Ritter. I´ve seen this plant and it is absolutely identical to the Super Pedro. Back when the idea about the Super Pedro being a hybrid came up, nobody knew about that old description of this very spiny and fat version of Trichocereus scopulicola. The Trichocereus peruvianus "Rosei 1" is a Peruvian plant with the flower of a Trichocereus peruvianus. Its flower morphology is nothing like the one on the Super Pedro. Hybrid breeding usually works out differently than most people think...in almost all the cases the F1 looks exactly like the mother plant, which would mean that there is a very high chance that a hybrid between Trichocereus scopulicola and the Rosei 1 clone (as father) would just look like any other Scop instead of a 50/50 mix between the two. If we were talking about a hybrid with Trichocereus scopulicola as a father, the flower morphology would look differently because the mothers are usually dominant in regards to the flower morphology. Like mentioned before, I am certain that the Super Pedro is a regional form of Trichocereus scopulicola, but even we´d treat it as a hybrid it would be really rare that you could just guess the father by just observing it because the fathers are often not visible in the F1. Most hybrids are extremely similar to the mother plant and if you would have to guess the parents of four or five Scop crosses, it would be extremely rare that you could guess the parents. On top of that, Trichocereus scopulicola is a Bolivian species, while the Rosei 1 Peruvianus is a Peruvian one. In the wild, they could not produce hybrids and due to the wide distribution of the Super Pedro, I really doubt it being a hybrid that originated from one grower. Most old plantings of the Super Pedro go back many decades, and that was before the time when hybrid cultivation became more common. Friedrich Ritter sold seeds of his Scop sister species Trichocereus crassicostatus for many years and Ritter is by far the most probable source. He was the one who discovered the Scop and almost all Scops on the market go back to him. That includes weird forms of Trichocereus scopulicola as well. These days, there are new hybrids by great growers like Misplant, Master B. Trichocereus.com.au, but back then the situation was different. There are crosses where you get weird plants as the result, but almost all Scop crosses I ever saw just looked like Scops.

Hi Trevyn, it´s a little too early to tell. You should put the plant in a good soil and let it grow for a while. It could be a Scop, but Trichocereus santaensis definitely looks like this at a younger age too. They have a similar rib count as Trichocereus scopulicola. Where is it from? Only few sellers offer this species and most that do actually have the correct one.

Hey Gavlooth, this is an Armatocereus or a Cereus. Both can produce segmented growth. It definitely is a great grafting stock!

Nice thread. None of these are T. pachanoi. The top view pretty much seals it that all are Scops. That rib structure doesn´t happen with Trichocereus pachanoi, at least not in this way. You can also see the bloated ribs, which shows all three are Bolivian Scop relatives. I wouldnt even say that the spine length is different enough to reliably tell them apart. There´s huge variation in spine length and it´s usually one of the worst traits to differentiate between certain strains. So yeah, interesting. I know about Lance being a Scop, but it´s new to me that Rob is a Scop too. I will look into older photos to see if it´s a simple mislabeling or if Rob is a Scop too, but some of these "clones" could be duplicates. How would you know? The only way to reliably test it is by trying to cross them and see if they can produce seeds or not.

Hey Matt, nope the site is not dying. The Facebook or Whats-app groups are taking away some of the traffic that usually went to forums, but forums like SAB will always be a thing. There also is a SAB Facebook group where there are many postings a day, which gets a fair amount of visitors and I think that this somehow counts als SAB visitors too. The past months were busy for many members including me, but SAB will not go anywhere. Facebook can kill their group feature at any day and that´s why the number of posts will rise again. On SAB, there´s always a place to go back to and Torsten will make sure that SAB will remain a great place to chill out. There will be a whole lot of updates on the site in the future and I am sure that SAB will be around for a very long time. Like I said, the times are changing and people are confronted with insane amounts of content through big sites/networks like Facebook, but that is not going to stay like this and just because there are less posts right now, it doesn´t have to mean that the site doesn´t have a great userbase that will stick around.

Yes, almost there. LOL. Thank you for your patience. The photos show that it was very worth it! We gave our everything for the book, and now we´re all just very happy about what we did. I´ll keep you guys updated and make another posting as soon as I have the books here with me.

Hey guys, the first samples of the SAN PEDRO book are here. It looks gorgeous and I wanted to share some of the pics with you. Please note that this is a huge book. The measurements are 221 x 303 mm, so it´s even a little bit bigger than A4. Get yourself a meter and check out how big this actually is. It´s a monster of a Trichocereus book. I´ll attach a pic of the finished cover, the index and some of the pages. There are 400 all-color pages and we made sure they are all great. There only are a few hundred books available outside the campaign, so let me know if you want to preorder one. You can message me here on Facebook or through my email EG [@] trichocereus.net. There only are hardcover books left and the price of those is 88 Euro plus shipping. Because of the immense costs of the color printing, this was the cheapest I could price them. It will be very worth it though. The cover is slightly different to the latest version because we had to exchange one photo because it didn't have the resolution it needed to have. I think it looks even better now. Thanks a lot to Torsten for walking me through this whole process. Without his help I wouldn´t be nearly half as good!

Hi guys, it´s been a while since our last update about the SAN PEDRO book and I want to use this chance to wrap the whole campaign up! Long story short, we are done with the book and the book is with the printer right now and will be printed within a few days. The books will be shipped very soon. In the past months we worked our asses off and did nothing but editing all day long and for seven days a week. The book had a professional editor and also got a very thorough botanic and taxonomic edit as well. It would usually take much longer to edit a book of that size, but we took absolutely no breaks, worked relentlessly and did everything in about three months. The result is nothing short of amazing and we are all extremely proud of what we did. The book contains up to date information about every species, has 400 pages (instead of the 300 that we originally wanted) and also includes information about DNA tests and cladistic studies. There are two bonus chapters and overall we are pretty sure that this book will be the most complete and beautiful book on the subject. It took more than two years to get it done, and you will all love it. I never did anything this good in my whole life, and I am ecstatic to get it out now! So yeah, we just wrapped the production on the final cover. The cover alone took almost two weeks. I actually wanted to use the old cover, but we wanted the cover to be very high quality resolution which is why we decided to make a new one. We had two graphic designers working on it and we finished the rest ourselves. I will add the final cover here for you and will post further updates about shipping dates as soon as the books arrive at my doorstep. It´ll definitely take a month or two until I have them, but I will start shipping right away as soon as they are here. There will be another update within the next 14 days with the first photos. We could not make an update any sooner because there was just so much left to do. I know we are a little bit late to the party, but we just wanted to make the best possible book....and we did! I wish I would have had a book like this when I was younger! You will love it! See you in a week or two when we have the photos from the printer. Big thanks to Torsten for his hardcore support! Couldnt have done it without him! Also thanks to the whole SAB crew who helped me helm this project! Everyone´s photos helped to make this book possible! Tried to upload the full sized version here but somehow it´s automatically downscale´d. Here is a link to the cover. http://trichocereus.net/wp-content/uploads/file-page1.jpg

Hi Guys, time to show some of the toys that you had when you were young! God i miss those times.... Mario 3. It was one of the games that i played on and on and on. Masters of the Universe. Full of lead paint but best Toy Series ever. Spydor was my favourite! That Spider looks so cool Starcom. I still like these magnetic toys. They werent as expensive as MOTU and STAR WARS and thats why i ended up with a Starcom Spacestation- Mask. Nice stuff but a weak TV Series. yeah. Back in the days, It was THE game to have. You never ran out of friends if you had that one at home. Show some of yours...i love nostalgia!

Hi guys, here are some new updates for my seed list. All seeds mentioned here are available. I love trading but can also sell some of them if you want! Needless to say that all those types were harvested from culture plants and NOT illegally taken from the wild. If you are interested in anything, let me know. I am located in Europe, which is why this posting needs a disclaimer that not all seeds can be sent to Australia. Most Trichocereus types are not a problem and if you are interested in anything else, let me know and I´ll have a look at the AQUIS list. Enough talking, check out my list! Trichocereus Pachanoi / Peruvianus Intermediate (pic 1) This is one of the most badass Pachanoi types on the market. But it can also be very spiny and is somewhere between Pachanoi and Peruvianus. Viability is great and tested. Trichocereus pachanoi x Tr. peruvianus Trichocereus tunariensis (Cochabamba) Trichocereus tarapacana / Soehrensia taracapana Trichocereus bridgesii type from the Rio Abajo / La Paz in Bolivia Trichocereus puquiensis from Puquio. I do not know much about this type yet. What I do know is that this is probably a five ribbed version from Puquio that´s somewhere between Tr. cuzcoensis and Tr. peruvianus. . Trichocereus poco / Trichocereus Tarijensis Trichocereus tacaquirensis (Tacaquiri, Bolivia) Trichocereus narvaezensis (no real info on this one yet) Trichocereus taquimbalensis (Lecori, Bolivia And the rest of my seed list: Trichocereus Bridgesii Australian Hybrid Seed Trichocereus Cordobensis (almost sold out now). Trichocereus Peruvianus Matucana Trichocereus Peruvianus - Rio Lurin Trichocereus Peruvianus or Cuzcoensis Huancavelica Trichocereus Tarmaensis Trichocereus Knuthianus from North Peru Trichocereus Andalgalensis x Tr. Grandiflorus Crassicaulis Trichocereus Mix Trichocereus Spachianus Stetsonia Coryne Matucana Madisonorium Lophocereus Schottii Trichocereus Camarguensis KK1414 Armatocereus Matucanensis Melocactus Peruvianus Azureocereus Hertlingianus Neoraimondia Roseiflora Oroya Borchersii Arequipa sp. Espostoa nana Haageocereus Acranthus Backeberg Loxanthocereus Hoffmannii var. Seniloides Tephrocactus floccosus Loxanthocereus Pullatus Rauh & Backeberg Echinocactus grusonii

Hey Che, that´s some form of T. peruvianus. Pretty amazing!