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    covid 19 vaccination

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    double post, oppsy
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    covid 19 vaccination

    Sorry, promised myself not to keep doing this.
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    The radio secret of DNA

    Morning Thanks for sharing @mnemosyne, what a video, packed with hidden secrets and advanced experiments, ya should have posted it in the covid vaccination thread, we are all waiting for quality information like this. Wake up everyone its 2021, the hidden secrets of DNA aren't secret anymore, the secrets public, and its on YouTube. @Cubism what am i seriously underestimating again? hehehe
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    covid 19 vaccination

    Sorry if u got your knickers in a knot over my comments dude, i wasn't trying to take some sort of higher ground, just keen for the point in time when people understand what I'm talking about. Regardless of how much scientific knowledge in whatever field it may be, nationally and globally respected, provides no guarantee they will understand my points. I'm not easy to understand, doesn't mean those who don't get me aren't clever or worth trying to communicate with. The "innovative radical" statement is a reference to a joke i made at a camp a few years ago, some blokes here will get a giggle out of it, ya had to be there i guess.
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    covid 19 vaccination

    "In medicine, miRNA can be considered as a novel and attractive biomarker for therapeutic targets. On the other hand, it has been reported that plasma from SARS-CoV-2 infection recovering individuals can be used to treat patients with COVID-19 due to the presence of antivirus miRNAs and antibodies. It is estimated that the miRNAs involved in blocking the ACE2 or TMPRSS2 can regulate the cytokine storm in SARS-CoV-2 infection." https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/10.2217/fvl-2020-0389 One day people will be able to understand what I've been talking about, and i look forward to that point in time. I don't like the idea of using modified nucleotides as antiviral, but while most people don't know what nucleotides are, idunno if they will understand my concerns. Sorta like how they don't understand why I'm so excited about the possibility of using miRNA to control gene expression. Just another "innovative and radical" thats way ahead of his time.
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    covid 19 vaccination

    Influenza, an ever-evolving target for vaccine development https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/130201_flu SARS-CoV-2 evolution and vaccines: cause for concern? https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(21)00075-8/fulltext
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    covid 19 vaccination

    Change happens just as its suppose too, and I wouldn’t want it any other way. Love ya’s all, feels abit like 1984
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    covid 19 vaccination

    If know ones interested in an intelligent discussion about which vaccines are more effective based on evidence and clinical data, then I’ll move the discussion back to the most logical and pertinent point, we need a treatment that saves lives, if saving lives and preventing the healthcare system from being overloaded is your major concern, then we have the same goals and should be able to debate this issue in a constructive manner rather than wishing death upon those who oppose your point of view. People really keep forgetting we are all on the same Team, the division this pandemic is causing is extremely concerning, considering we should all want the best outcome for humanity and therefore, be able to put aside our differences to work constructively together towards the common goal of preventing pain and suffering for fellow humans. Perhaps if we could work together as a species, 9 million people wouldn’t die from starvation per year. Perhaps if we stopped debating politics, and seeing other humans as enemies, our hearts might open to the fact that every death is a tragedy no matter which political team they were from. Politics has turned some people, into heartless, unsympathetic cold humans, and it hasn’t done much good for anyone, so what’s the point of continuing this nonsense. Debating this issue through a political lens, is about as constructive and intelligent as denying the existence of the virus because you can’t see it with your eyes. It’s time to transcend the stupidity of the current status quo and stop living in a world where its ok that 9 million people are dying from a lack of food while we are living in a wealthy wasteful society that’s doing very little about it. https://www.jpost.com/health-science/covid-90-percent-of-patients-treated-with-new-israeli-drug-discharged-in-5-days-675961?fbclid=IwAR3TYL-ektsjSC3X2nQuREOvP9ZZ4eYo7kIiich9BCyrYXBu_PiPdio9OmQ https://forbetterscience.com/2021/02/08/operation-cytokine-storm/
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    Is herd immunity possible?

    Is herd immunity possible? seems like an important question to answer.... Five reasons why COVID herd immunity is probably impossible https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00728-2
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    Is herd immunity possible?

    Its mind blowing how long the media takes to catch up to what scientist have been suggesting and Its very sad people respect media and polititcans more than published researchers who dedicate their lives to understanding complex phenomena in order to benefit humanity. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-17/pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-herd-immunity-delta-covid-evolution/100366038 No suprised though, the latest religious psychosis is governement, and money is their god. We have been living in a world where 9 million people die from starvation every year. If we couldnt get together to solve the starvation crisis, how are we going to unite to solve the covid crisis.
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    covid 19 vaccination

    Could someone please post up the best available science papers researching vaccine efficacy against delta. Every time I trace the statistics being quoted in the media, back to the papers they are referencing, I come to find the selection criteria for the people in the study is they showed up to the hospital unwell and I can’t understand why more people aren’t talking about how this makes the statistic representative of people who need hospital treatment, not the general population. “This is a retrospective study of individuals who underwent SARS-CoV-2 polymerase chain reaction (PCR) testing at the Mayo Clinic and hospitals affiliated with the Mayo Clinic Health System” https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.06.21261707v1.full-text Anyone who is thinking critically and assessing this data can see that the reason why we are talking about “reducing hospitalization time” instead of “preventing infection” is because the studies are looking at how long people are infected for, not if the vaccine prevents infection. Therefore, why are we even talking about vaccination targets to allow for normality to return. Has anyone read the Doherty report, the assumptions this report are operating on is wild and I’m not entirely certain if our government officials have the ability to scrutinize the validity of this report. "If you define its efficacy against preventing people getting sick enough to go to hospital, it is as effective as any of the other vaccines," Professor Kelleher said. We dont need to change definitons, we need to invest in research and development Then if the research is interpreted by politicans who dont understand it, progress will be slow. https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/efficacy 1. the ability of a drug to achieve the desired effect. 2. the degree to which an intervention accomplishes the desired or projected outcomes.
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    2021

    Waterboy and I "I said we is better than you and me"
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    2021

    ^^ wise words, love you brother, There hasn’t been a more important time to expand our working definition of “Love". Expand our consciousness, expand our perception and definition of “Love”, it’s the antidote to all the fear and chaos that’s dominating the current cultural zeitgeist and its resided within our hearts.
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    covid 19 vaccination

    Morning Halcyon, I appreciate the significant risk being posed by this problem; however, I don’t see any value in the political discussion being conducted. These idiots were telling us not to wear masks for how long? Their credibility has slipped well beyond repair and the only way to put a pause on this misinformation machine is convincing people to turn it off. Morning Zedo, Don’t let fear be the emotion you frame your reality through. Now is the time to embrace love and positivity. Things are likely going to get worse before they get better, so it’s important we don’t let fear spiral out of control and stay strong for our loved ones who surround us. Try not to stress about not knowing what to do, and no light at the end of the tunnel being in site. Life’s not about things going the way you want them to, it’s an experience that you should try and make the most of regardless of your situation, and making the most of your situation becomes extremely difficult if you waste your time listening to this polarising political debate that’s achieving nothing more than division between people who didn’t even dedicate there education to understanding scientific tools that could contribute to solving this crisis. If either of you 2 are keen on some Spring time gifts for the garden, PM me your postal details and ill do my best to put a smile on your face :) Springs vibes are just around the corner
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    covid 19 vaccination

    Morning Gentlemen https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02039-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01827-w A computer simulation of the structure of the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2.Credit: Janet Iwasa, University of Utah Source: Structural image from Lorenzo Casalino, Univ. California, San Diego (Ref. 1); Graphic: Nik Spencer/Nature An animation of the way SARS-CoV-2 fuses with cells.Credit: Janet Iwasa, University of Utah Fused cell structures (syncytia) seen in cells expressing the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (green). Nuclei are in blue and the cell skeleton is in red.Credit: Mauro Giacca
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    covid 19 vaccination

    I feel for ya Halycon, this must be a really difficult time for families especially with members in vulnerable age groups or with pre-existing medical complications. I hope you can see im not attacking you personally, im attacking the media, and the polarity of this left versus right debate, because it’s distracting us all from making progress in their constant quest of political point scoring. We need to reject the system dictating the norms and replace it with an updated model designed to serve us. It blows my mind reading some people commentary of the various state government responses. As if it demonstrates their political team are doing a superior job compared to the others. Its both confusing and sad to see people celebrating the miss management of the pandemic because it was done by their political opposition, and they would prefer to point the finger rather than have the problem solved. This is all the left versus right debate is, pointing the finger rather the offering realistic viable solutions. Politicians are not problems solvers, therefore expecting them to solve problems is redundant Clearly both political teams are robbing us blind, and F***ing up the response, we are 2.5 years into this pandemic, and we still don’t have a clear solution in sight. All we have got, is some business leaders talking about what they are going to do to minimise the effect upon the economy. Meanwhile the inequality continues to rise…. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/covid-19-pandemic-exacerbating-wealth-inequality/13089128 Then long covid only complicating this issue further https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-021-00984-7?fbclid=IwAR0aevXfZ5yfIFrlQl7jWveR7XaVUym6Prr4W57BXfd1xoVNKQY04-drC94 I’ve been worrying about this for a while, now take it with a grain of salt because this pre-print is yet to complete the peer review process, however it is suggesting corona virus can insert itself into your genome, which explains how “long covid” may function. If this is true, it really should have been taken into consideration well before we started designing vaccines and medications to control this novel viral infection and would be important to consider as it will most certainly affect results generated by PCR testing. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/12/coronavirus-may-sometimes-slip-its-genetic-material-human-chromosomes-what-does-mean https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.12.422516v1.full.pdf
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    covid 19 vaccination

    Morning Halcyon Daze, Im sorry if you felt attacked by my comments, that was not my intention. I just wanted to point out these opinion pieces are bias towards their team. For example, this last opinion piece video you have posted featuring “Dr Gottlieb” from the board of directors of Pfizer is dripping with bias. Sure, Dr Gottlieb is a doctor, but all he does in that video is chat about his opinions and states a few unreferenced facts to support his claims. Real scientist present data (Results), discuss the methods used to collect the data (Materials and Methods) and discuss the interpretation of the data and the possible implications of the results being generated (Discussion). Then they publish it in journal, scientist don’t need the media to report their finding, media coverage doesn’t do anything for a scientist career, its all about publications and their impact factor. On the other hand, if your on the board of directors for a pharmaceutical company, you need the media to put out the messages that you want the public to hear, which is why Dr Gottlieb has time for media interviews, rather then being busy in the laboratory working on ground breaking medical research. So, in regard to Buttstacks comments, yes scientist can be purchased just like politicians. But it simple to pick which scientist are working with an agenda rather then working towards generating independent data for interpretation, all you need to do is look at where their funding is coming from. Are they on a salary from a multinational pharmaceutical company or are they receiving grants from the “Australian Research Council” or similar independent research organisations. Earlier in this thread I shared some opinions about how id like to see small RNA technologies being researched as treatments for covid infection, if your interested here is a summary of transcription and translation inhibitors being developed as cancer treatments, because RNA based viruses rely upon translation mechanisms to express their proteins, we could be using similar mechanisms to prevent serious covid infections from occurring. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fchem.2020.00276/full And here is summary of Clinical Research thats’ been investigating microRNA technology as potential therapeutic agents https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6532434/ “Reject the system dictating the norms” “Time for Change”
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    covid 19 vaccination

    With all due respect, opinion pieces like “Anti-vaxxer nurse dies of covid” hold relatively equal value to opinion pieces titled “Women dies from blood clot shortly after being vaccinated”. Its cherry-picking specific data points that support your team. The Left and the Right have wasted enough of our time, its time to bring forth a new political paradigm, the scientific revolution. When we decided to elect officials with science backgrounds rather than commerce backgrounds things will change. Until then we are stuck in a cycle of repetition where the wealthy elites continue to reap the benefits of having commerce leaders controlling policy development in their favour. Time for Change
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    covid 19 vaccination

    Morning Cubisum, Thanks for responding, I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts, you’re a clever human and ive always enjoyed reading your posts I look forward to continuing the chat another morning when ive had more than 3 hours sleep and ill be sure to check out Nick Brown. But for now its time to pump some tunes and keep the good vibes rolling Love to all PS, did anyone notice the size of the Diamond earings that "Gladys Berejiklian" wore during the press conference yesterday? holy moly, those were some big rocks
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    covid 19 vaccination

    Morning Cubisum Thanks for your link, I had a look over it, and it appears to be referencing a different study from Benha University in Egypt. The link I provided is a meta-analysis, looking at “Twenty-four randomized controlled trials involving 3406 participants” and to my currently knowledge it has not been discredited like the single paper that’s references in the “Guardian media” article you provided. So once again, the media and politicians are cheery picking studies to discredit each other’s studies in this stupid political football game that’s the mass media keeps brain washing the public with. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/ This is precisely the point im trying to make, media outlets have become so tied up in this ridiculous political battle, that it becomes difficult for the regular citizen to look at the evidence from an independent perspective. While we keep debating this from the perspective of left versus right, we are just letting political morons control the response. We are 2.5 years into the pandemic at some point people will wake up and start blaming politicians miss management and lack of scientific integrity, rather then blaming the left or the right. Imagine if scientist received funding = to political salaries and donations, progress might actually be made.
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    covid 19 vaccination

    This is a perfect example, of why politicising issues brings us further away from the truth. So many left wingers and right wingers who have zero scientific understanding, drew conclusions on this issue, based upon what political team they were on. Then because they spent their time researching politics rather than science, they would discredit each other’s opinions arguing for their own bias, whether it be the lab leak hypothesis, or Zoonotic transfer from Bat to Pangolin to Human. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-16/who-urges-china-to-share-more-information-about-covid-source/100297904 The political debate around this issue got so noisy, that it drowned out the conversations being had by evolutionary biologist that were presenting sequence data to confirm or deny these hypothesis’s. Therefore, the public was distracted by the left versus right debate, while the opinions of people who have dedicating there lives to increasing scientific understanding went unnoticed.
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    covid 19 vaccination

    Morning Sayn and RC Lets keep politics out of this, there isn’t any point discussing agendas of the right and left wings of politics. That’s all a distraction designed to divide us into teams that will forever be in conflict. We should be debating science, presenting data and discussing the interpretations of the data. We may all be pawns and we may all know nothing, but it only took one Jesus to change the world, and we hold the same potential inside our souls.
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    covid 19 vaccination

    Morning Cubisum, Im confused about what the point of things are too…Is the point of the vaccines to prevent transmission via herd immunity or is the point of the vaccine to prevent serious illness requiring hospitalization. My confusion about these vaccines is mostly sparked via the WHO recommendations don’t seem to be lining up with Australian health authorities. I agree that we want to be reducing the burden upon the health care system, and from what I’m reading about Ivermectin, it seems to be effective as both a preventative and a treatment, therefore dosing people in high risk areas would reduce the strain on the healthcare system by preventing infections from occurring at rates similar to what is required to achieve herd immunity. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/ And i totally agree with the investing in hospitials comment, its extremely disapointing that rather then investing in Australian healthcare and medical research we just keep outsourcing the funding to multinational pharmaceutical companies. This is likely due our leadships being more concerned about funding big bussiness than about supporting Australian scientist and their research. idunno why they cant seem to get their head around funding Australia science would allow for a science Boom in australia, sorta like the mining Boom. I probably boils down having dinasaurs controling most of societies investment, if you got wealthy with a concept as simple as digging coal out of the ground, its unlikely your going to see the value of science research.
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