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Cheers Geebus , i'll take those. I'll offer some.. S.rhombifolia HBWR E.pach X E.scop OP Yowie and a small bag of quality ground Yohimbe Bark

Ooh cool giveaway mate. I've been trying to research this mysterious liana for some time and never has a plant sent me in so many circles. The Genus name Alicia honors the French Botanist Alicia Lourteig(1913-2003). There are only two species in the genera which belong to the family Malpighiaceae. The other species being A.macrodisca. Both species are widespread in South America, growing in forests and woodlands, secondary vegetation and along rivers. One of its distinguishing features are densely hairy white/pink/lilac petals that are completely concealed by the sepals during enlargement of the bud. I could go on a bit here but i'll spare you all the incomprehensible botanical jargon. In terms of its ethnobotanical usage, well.... Every scant piece of data I come across seems to have an equal and opposing force so to speak. Some internet sites claim that it contains both beta carboline and tryptamine alkaloids and yet analysis have proven otherwise. Some sites speak of it being used for divination in the same way that B.caapi is utilized yet I challenge anyone to find a Paper with reference to its usage in any traditional/medicinal form. I found an obscure paper by a ethnobotanist who was studying traditional aya usage with the Matses(I think from memory) who states that he took a sample to a tribal elder and was told that it was "just a jungle vine". On related Ethno Forums the subjective experiences seem to be conflicted. None of this is conclusive?? In terms of the scientific botanical literature, the plant knowledge in the Amazon Basin and Guiana Shield is vast, there's a hell of alot we don't know. The Ethnobotanist was only with one tribe of many in the region that utilise Aya. The forums are merely conjecture. And just because it has tested negative for B carboline alkaloids doesn't mean it's not active. My personal opinion is that it does not have a history of ethnobotanical usage. Whether this is from a mis ID in the field like what may or may not of been the case with P.cartha (Shultes&Hofmann 1992), or a language barrier/ miscommunication between a Traditional Healer and a western Scientist, or even dodgy oversees vendors whom are finding something else to pillage from the Amazon and sell to discerning customers. This is only my opinion and I would love to be wrong. At the end of the day it is a beautiful liana with shimmering silver leaves and gorgeous flowers typical of the family. It would also grow very well in FNQ

No seriously, I laughed, I cried, for a moment I thought my head was actually going to explode...Beautiful, eloquent, pure fucking gold!!!

Who is this mysterious Pat Uri and why are his posts so awesome???

Toque make some beautiful snuffs, there Toasts especially. Nearly but not quite on par with Wilsons of Sharrow and Fribourg and Treyer's(now owned by WOS), which is feat considering how long they've been at it comparatively speaking...

FNQ

All gone, thanks guys . Will update this thread with some more plants in a few days..

All Done

Not prepared to ship to the US sorry Highdesercacti..

Aricampa and Matucana icaros all gone..

All good Hukstable, have a couple of Aricampa and matucana icaros.

Way to expensive, even for artisan snuffs there prices are insane! They do have some interesting products though.. Kambo sticks yeah . There's an old thread on here somewhere about a member trying kambo. Interesting read, not sure i'd be game

Erm i'm pretty sure the UK allows tobacco export, certain in fact. Aust customs limit is 1.5kg without a permit, the duty and handling hurts though. Isn't this company kakutina based in the UK? That's why I asked, I'm pretty sure most of there products would be sweet to import to OZ

Why non oz members only?

Olive, leave her root bound mate, it induces heavy flowering..

I'll second that . There's a few different variants of this species which are hard to tell apart. Nice specimen olive , there a nice genus all round the Dendrobiums..

Pics?

Hey all, For some time now i've been trying without much luck to research whether this plant actually has any true use from an ethnobotanical stand point. It seems to me that apart from a few vague reports on Nexus, which when read closely, seem IMHO unreliable at best, that the only persons actually claiming that it has been used traditionally are the oversees vendors flogging the root bark, and one local nursery selling live plants, that does nothing other than vaguely refer to internet forums. When you look at websites which are devoted to botany and/or nomenclature their is no mention whatsoever of any indigenous usage of this liana. Was wondering if anyone has come across any legitimate papers or has any knowledge other than the general air of speculation that seems to surround this vine. I'm not saying that it doesn't have a history of indigenous usage, nor am I convinced that it does, am merely trying to start a conversation about this somewhat mysterious Malpighiaceae.

I'll trade you some catty backchat for some white sage

Are u in Aus?

Tobacco brews are dangerous, nicotine, nornicotine and related alkaloids are quite toxic. Smoking, snuff and oral tobacco use is self limiting in a sense. As in you will get nausea and vomit from an overdose well before a LD is reached. Brews on the other hand can be fatal. I imagine N.rustica was used?? Just an assumption.. People need to educate themselves in regards to harm reduction. The retreats should also IMO educate people in regards to the risks of Tobacco Purge. I'm not saying do go there but at least be well aware of the risks involved. Even as a long time user of tobacco, therefore with a tolerance for said alkaloids, i'd be very careful drinking a tobacco brew at home in Australia, let alone in the middle of the Amazon with no access to medical help. As I said earlier, i'm not saying don't do it, just that people have a responsibility onto themselves in terms of education and harm reduction. As do the businesses charging people good $ for these retreats.

Haven't seen that magazine but I do own a book they produced a few years back on herbology which I can't speak highly enough of..

First flower of the season..

Bedofspines looks like he's nailed it??

M.heyderi?, i'm not great with Mammillaria species though..