Pleurotus eryngii growlog

[Rev]

Sory to have been out of the game for a while

i havent managed to dicument as much as id have liked buts heres a taste

my next file to build is the rest of this eryngii grwlog

its basically sorghum spawn ala polyfill then used to spawn a mix of sterilised euc sawdust, bran like material (80:20) with gypsum and a little urea for extra N all in a large spawn bag

however with some tinkering you could avoid using sterile material and just pasteurise instead - its still an oyster after all

when colonised i shallow buried and cased with compoist and loose straw mulch

yile don first flush was about 300 g tho its going again now. slug pellets help as they love shrooms

best time to fruit is autumn

they can also be grown similarly on shallow buried short logs which will crop perrennially

this is an excellent thing to do either amongst flowerbeds or even in the veggie garden

they intercrop very well with veggies which give some shade cover

immature shrooms

fully mature - pick between first and second pic stage for best flavour

i left till this late cos i wanted spore prints

at harvests

cleaned up and ready to use for cooking

store in paper bag as usual if refrigerated

i want to continue this theme of buried blocks and i have some reishi spawn ready to go so ill keep myself busy...

hope u enjoyed the mycoporn

[Evil Genius]

These are fatasses!Bon Apetit! They grow wild on my compost and occur in raw masses; very big fleshy mushrooms.But i´m not sure if mine are really eryngii. Don´t think so. Probaply your patch will last for a very long time when kept alive. Please post some pics of your Reishis too, when finished!

[ 04. July 2005, 09:11: Message edited by: Evil Genius ]

[Rev]

You may also have pleurotus ferula - the white elf

its very very similar looking to P eryngii

i have heard they cultivate these commercially now in germany

The reishi will take a while

2 weeks to colonise a bag,( 2-6 months for a small log)

1 month resting

and if the conditions are right itll start fruiting but it take 2-3 months from there for conk formation to finish

they are quite easy outdoor shrooms to grow

[Evil Genius]

You are right. It is probably Pl.Ferula, not eryngii.It occurs almost like a weed in my garden, in very large patches.Pleurotus is really a very effective genus to cultivate!

[ 04. July 2005, 09:38: Message edited by: Evil Genius ]

[Prophet]

Sweet.. i'm interested in growing some oyster mushrooms myself but wouldn't know where to start. Is this a tropical species? where can you obtain propagating material and will they grow easily in sawdust?

[Rev]

tropical - no

but they fruit in nthn nsw and SE qld in autumn

i sell prop material of this one

i doubt youll get it anywhere else in oz

not even on the shelves yet

sawdust- yep just like i did

or on shallow buried logs

stay tuned for more growlogs

[Prophet]

Awesome, how do you start them if you were to start growing them? can you just chop a bit off and plant it? i am new to growing fungi but would love to grow a few. any particular type of logs that they prefer?

peace

[gerbil]

prophet, get growing gourmet and medicinal mushrooms by Paul stamets.

There's many different ways to do things, you must research it and trial and error, give yourself alot of time to get things understood and to produce clean cultures.

Starting them,

get a myc syringe from funky fungus

culture on agar or grain, the rest rev has already explained.

There's lots of good links around the place, also check out funky fungus website for more links and writeups, very helpful.

Logs they prefer would be deciduous hardwoods.

[Prophet]

kool, what would be the chances of success by inoculating the substrate directly? such as straw or sawdust mix in a bag? would this work or does it require substantial growth first of the mycelium in a grain mixture and then tranferred to the appropriate substrate?

[gerbil]

You are aiming to have a desired mass of spawn in full vigorous healthy growth, feeding off nutrient rich grain and supplements then innoculate this into a nutrient rich bulk substrate and fruit, or case grain and fruit or bit of both.

Or innoculate further bags of spawn tailored to log innoculation, like sawdust, then spawn sawdust into cut logs and seal with a wax or something.

You want to achieve quick even colonisation of the substrate. If you use grain spawn and break it up and spread it through the substrate you'll have much higher number of innoculation points, if you simply squirted a myc syringe into a bag of straw, there is little chance the desired mycelium will colonise before contaminants do or the substrate goes off.

One 10cc myc syringe has the potential for a riduculous amount of production, it would be a waste trying to squirt straight to bulk.

[Rev]

oysters are pretty hardy beasts

once you have them growing you can do all sorts of cool things

like with common and pulmonarius you can even bury your scraps under the soil touching a dead stumps and they can actually regrow and colonise the wood

not as good as dowel spawn innoculation but better than nothing

of you can put your offcuts onto a cut sufrcae and cover with something to hold humidity and the mycelim will regrow into the wood

just like how sub stumps reshoot when wrapped in moist paper or cardboard

but thats lazy tricky stuff..

do what gerbil says...

[Rev]

look at and download all this info

its pure gold!

i kneel to the treeguy

( i'm not worthy! :D )

http://www.treecareindustry.org/content/pu...t_Mushrooms.htm

noooooooo!

the info is all but gone!

but read the text and as i said download what you can!

soemwhere on my puta i have a full file with pics i saved a long time ago

[Rev]

ok here it is

http://home.iprimus.com.au/reville1/Method...s/Grow_logs.htm

it works as right click download

but can anyone tell me why it wont open with simple double click?

[ 05. July 2005, 13:45: Message edited by: Rev ]

[Prophet]

ok thanks. Are there any subtropical species of oyster mushrooms available in australia? i was reading about an interesting one called Pleurotus tuber-regium but not sure if you can get it. I would be ideal for growing outside and you can chop up the sclerota and start new ones as well from what i hear.

peace

[gerbil]

It downloads it when you click because that's the way your browser is setup...i think??. To open it in browser, just right click and open in new window ( i think this should work, my acrobat isn't installed atm)

Either way, you still have to download it, save to disk will make a permanant copy you open manually, open in new window will make a temp copy, depending on temp file settings etc but open automatic.

prophet, p. djamor the pink oyster is a subtropical or tropical i think? (sorry can't be arsed getting a book). Rev sells this and it's extremely hardy, i've got colonised jars with lids off sitting in the backyard for over a month, no contam at all, just sitting dormant-ish. Still smells quite fresh mushroomy, more of a dry smell atm.

[Prophet]

I went to funkyfungus.org but i can't find Pleurotus djamor

[Rev]

Thats cos its out of season

in SE qld you can grow all the oystres but at diff times of year

In spring and summer ill reoffer warm weather types

like pink and gold oysters and warm weather isolates of common types

i dont have the tuber oyster yet

id be intereted in atrade if anyone does

it has been recorded wild in Queensland

its not the tastest of shrooms i her going tough quick

[Prophet]

ok i will wait till you have some pink oysters available. That's cool about the tuber oyster growing wild, i wonder if any other oysters have the potential to go wild i might have to test that theory sometime.

maybe someone could order a spore print by mail of the tuber oyster if no one is growing it here.

[foolsbreath]

Yum

[Rev]

I picked up some large offcuts of Mango wood from a treelopper today

quite excited about trying the techniques in the pdf linked above

for Pink oysters and reishi i would definitely think Palm trunks would work as both species naturally occur on dead and dying palm trees

Pleurotus pulmonarius and P ostreatus are already well naturalised in Australia

i often find them popping out of sodden haystacks

[occidentalis]

Great work Rev, keep it coming.

I have some edible cultures arriving soon from Bluemeanie so I will document my experiments and get more growlogs happening.

As for Oysters going wild - Don't forget Pleurotus australis, the native oyster mushroom. Common in the SW apparently but I haven't seen it yet.

[Rev]

will do

yeah the native oyster is a very vigorous grower

unlkie other species in its habits - def no close relation of P ost or pulm

maybe closer to cystidiosus

wierd one

youl find it on Agonis flexuosa (peppermint myrtle)

south of mandurah

particularly common in denamrk to walpole areas

[gerbil]

Sorry to hijack rev.

Just want to show success with millet.

On the left is p. pulmonarius and right is p. eryngii. Millet rice cookered, bit of gypsum added, took 14 days i think.

Compared to WBS+BRF+gypsum jars which were innoculated a day earlier than the millet, and are only just ready to expand, definately not as thick and vigorous as millet, i think i may have screwed the moisture levels with the WBS, will try again, but millet is fantastic so far

Will have to get some big bags of sorghum and millet v. soon. Will keep you updated, probably fruit straw bags and a few diff chip mixes. yumm can't wait.

[Rev]

that looks lovely :D

and please feel free to 'hijack' anytime with mycoporn

Millet is a great grain

-Superior nutritional value

-many greains equal more innoculation points equls more homgenous mixing of spawn and substrate

BM has oft commented on his views with superior medicinal potency using millet

sorghum is similar. I find it great for oysters in parrticular. It does have a much lower nutrtional contenst and is much larger so less innoc points

but i like it better than wheat or rye

heres a P eryngii grow idea

ragadinks potsed

"Some time ago I have tried out to grow some Pleurotus eryngii on newspaper.

The newspaper and cardboard was prepared via the "washing machine tek":

- Put some newspaper and cardboard in a pillow case - if it's too big tear it a little bit apart till it fits into the pillow case.

- Close the pillow case with a knot and put it into the washing machine

- You can pour some chlorine in the drawer of the washing machine for pasteurization

- Then let the washing machine do the whole program at 90 degrees Celsius ( rinsing, washing, rinsing and spinning )

- If the paper is still too wet after spinning you have to wring out the pillow case afterwards

After that procedure I have spawned the paper with grain spawn.

It took the substrate quite a while to colonize, but there were no contams.

The problem was that the eryngii did not fruit on the paper substrate which I think is because of lack of certain nutrients.

Therefore I buried the colonized paper in a shady place in the garden and after about a month after some rain the first fruits came out.

Here a two pics:

(just below - right click view images)

"

if using sawdust n chips or newspaper eryngii benefits for up to 20% supplemnetation with bran or similar susbtances

it doesnt mind a little urea also (2.4g/L at makeup)

commerciual eryngii grow

[ 13. July 2005, 12:57: Message edited by: Rev ]

[gerbil]

WOW those look delicous! so meaty.

Bottle culture with them looks very interesting.

Will definately be running 20% supp. Need to get more supplies am running v. low. Will supplement the millet next grain master and see how it differs.

lol yep i remember bm and his 'millet is the shit', has been pinging around my mind for a while. I wasted alot when i first started p. djamor, kept turning it to porridge trying to get good moisture content, rice cooker is perfect now.

It's interesting, you could easily see the nutritional benefit of straight millet over WBS (or at least i'm guessing it's that, but as said possibly moisture conent, and higher innoc points per whatever area. or something else) All millet jars are at the same stage, and have thick marshmallow land forming on the top, nothing else is coming close with this batch.

hmm i'm seriously considering doing small scale mushroom farming to sell to local restaraunts or something like that in the say next 5 years. And actually i've got a question to ask you about this, will email you. The whole process has me hooked, i think i'm in love with mushrooms :D