shoes Posted August 15, 2010 Hey there people, swim has been smoking dope for 3 1/2 years rather heavy and have stopped for a drug test to get a better paying job after reading many many post about how to beat a test swim decided to pay an independent test to see what was up basic results and details as follows Body weight 75kg (6ft) Smoking.1-3g daily more on weekends Cutoff levels for cannabinoids are 50ug/L emit or 15ug/L Gcms Test 1 - 36hours after smoking Prep - not too much, downed 5 nicotenic acid pills(not to beat test but to open up blood vessels and allow metabolites to pass into urine) Drank lots of water Results - fail cannabinoids detected Amount 82ug/L Also creatinine levels@ 1.4mmol/l below 1.8mmol/L which suggest dilution Test 2 - 2weeks after smoking Prep - no strenuous exercise (just want to see what happens remember) took 2o to 30 nicotenic acid tablets,lots of water, more protein rich foods than norm, lots of tea,lots of juice, Cranberry,pineapple,orange Results - fail cannabinoids detected @ 62ug/L But this time creatinine was at 5.1mmol/L Test 3 - 28days after smoking(this test was paid for by a local employment company so don't know the figures sorry) Prep - none, work for exercise, no B3 pills, regular diet lots of.water Results pass BUT technically failed according to them have to retest due to low creatinine levels suggests possible dilution, Retest results have not been validated as yet will post ASAP *swim puts low creatinine levels down to drinking.to much before the test, also a possible excuse to postpone random tests further for those worried So after all that swim wondered if a possibility of actually beating the test could be done via following method Depending on all the variables strength of green(defs no hash ha),frequency of use,speed of individual metabolism and relative body fat content let's.say 1 weeks notice Strenuous workouts daily combined with B3 flush and lots of water then day before test no exercise, defs no exercise on the day, drink water 1L plus b group vitaminws for colour and weight and.high protein drinks ie creatine powder mixed in "x" Would it help any if at all,.also if any toxicologists are.available to comment would be appreciated other questions are in regard to cytochrome P450 swim has.read.this.enzyme is responsible.for the metabolism of Delta-9-THC-COOH swim is also heavily skeptical of dilution of relative Thc levels via high fat diets could someone please comment on this.topic as its the 1st post and swim is keen to learn more on this topic, hope this post.can be usefully please don't comment with "proven" methods which are biased confirmation, if proven please.explain clearly as swim read a lot of posts and a lot of useless crap was.written and waste swims and others time, also do not reply with abstinence is the only cure, that may be true but its not why people are looking this topic up, cheers swim likes this article "review of biological matrices as indicators of recent or ongoing cannabis use" XLIV "A SEARCH FOR KNOWLEDGE" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr me Posted August 15, 2010 How much did you pay for the independant tests? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoes Posted August 16, 2010 How much did you pay for the independant tests? Each test was.a standard consultation from doctor,ended up costing $60ea for.the 1st two tests, test 3 free(via employment agency) $75 for the retest(different clinic) also received a $35 bill from a pathology company in Melbourne,, costly but hopefully the info.can benefit the group somehow, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoes Posted August 16, 2010 Results are the retest was a pass with creatinine levels higher,could the protein bar eaten 2hours before the test? Could creatine shakes help boost creatinine levels for those who dilute.their sample without causing suspicion? Anyone have any ideas anybody got a test coming up and will to try the method in the original post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted August 18, 2010 drinking too much water in a short time can lead to terrible headaches or even death, don't overdoo the water intake!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoes Posted August 18, 2010 Totally agree plant helper,.water.intoxication can be fatal, perhaps I should say replace fluid intake with water no point drinking too much as your body will only absorb so much, the rest will pass through, hence clear pee an frequency (according to pathology), some forums say to.drink ten litres a day that's ridiculous and dangerous if.you ask me, I'm considering writing an article.to.debunk myths about testing and such, am learning a lot along the way if anyone has any.advice or.criticism no probs just pm me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites