Guest Silly Billy Posted July 7, 2000 hi i was wondering how much opium costs in here in Oz? and how much would a first timer need to purchase? thanx (mind u im not intending to buy any opium , far from it i am simply tring to make conversation) [This message has been edited by Silly Billy (edited 12 July 2000).] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reville Posted July 9, 2000 silly billy dont you know opium is illegal silly billy poppies make lovely garden flowers though , especially as a massed spring display. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Natura Posted July 9, 2000 Far from Shroom, and Cannabis, I have no reason to grow Poppy except for lovely garden. I love to learn from the Plants, however isolation of opium from poppy flower sounds quite "Cocaine syndicate" in Columbia..... Personaly, I want our lovely members to participate in this forum to create and share the "IDEA" and "Green Wisdom". Take it easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Silly Billy Posted July 9, 2000 my question reffers to the price of opium in australia not your views on it or my wanting some! but thanx anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest UV1 Posted July 9, 2000 Originally posted by Silly Billy:my question reffers to the price of opium in australia not your views on it or my wanting some! I don't think there's a commercial market in Australia. Proobably on the prescription medication black market you could buy Papaveretum, which is basically opium or Palfium which is quite opium like complete with "Pipe dreams" . No idea on prices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest theobromus Posted July 10, 2000 Preparation of opium from the poppy capsule sounds to me like a respectful act of worship of the Corn Goddess Demeter whose compassion for the grief of others, having lost her own daughter, led her to weep tears that bring a temporary forgetfulness of the pains of the mind and the body. The gifts of the Gods are two-edged, abuse of Cannabis and Shrooms can be detrimental to the mortal who dares them for too long. Shiva's dance creates and destroys. From my historical reading about the Victorians (from the reign of the British Queen not the Australian state) the quality of opium varied markedly from the crudely prepared matique (which is just boiled down poppy capsule tea and rather sugary) to the most potent where smoking even a matchhead's size will have profound effect. Palfium is, of course, fully synthetic and only related to opium in its action not its chemistry or origin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reville Posted July 10, 2000 If its not for sale , does it have a value assigned? more specifically - does the australian government make financial transactions with itself (?!)in the movement of its own tasmanian opium from production site to processing.I mean morphine and other derivatives have a value but is it a closed financial loop prior to that/or what? sorry to appear condescending before, i didnt know if it was answerable for the above reasons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rkundalini Posted July 15, 2000 The tasmanian poppy industry is entirely based on chemical extraction of poppy straw, there's no "opium" in the sense of the tarry smokable stuff involved. This is supposedly for economic reasons but no doubt it aids security to do all the concentration and preparation at a factory rather than in the fields... And given the legitimacy of the industry I imagine prices for the straw would be pretty low compared to black market prices in terms of morphine content. Anyway, as others have said, they make a lovely spring display. Time to plant about now. Not in Australia of course though because that would not be legal no matter how feasible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
