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How about making meads using active honey? There must be some interesting honey down in Tasmania, I think it would make a great mead.

I think its getting close to the time when certain people living in the USA should think about moving. It doesn't seem to be a good time to go to dance events in the USA at the moment, and Ok, its in one of the most conservative states, but how long until it starts happening in other 'red' states? A video of events unfolding http://cutup.org.nyud.net:8090/dir/fascism.mov and details of what happened (yes I havent posted details of what happened, just the links) http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/08/1761428.php http://www.music-versus-guns.org/ http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Dance_party_br..._in_Utah%2C_USA http://stonefruit.blogspot.com/2005/08/all...-belong-to.html sympathies to anybody in Utah!

Hi, I just thought I'ld mention that Bruce Fuhrer's new A field guide to Australian fungi. 360 pp is now out " A definitive field guide covering more than 500 fungi species with 548 superb colour photographs." http://www.andrewisles.com/AndrewIsles/sea...s_book_number=3 as opposed to his 'A field companion to Australian fungi' which is only 162pp. I should be bringing along some for sale to Entheogenesis Australis at a price much cheaper (I will be picking some up from Bruce) So if you want a copy, just let me know. (I can also get copies of his other books, but I will stick to Mycology books in this forum

are you going to EA?I will have to show you something

Hi guys, as further research, here's a list I made of Fruit Wines, so I could then find out which places were using *native fruits in their fruit wines (not that many as it turns out, nearly all in Queensland, apart from one place in Victoria and one in SA) And yes, I have banana's as a native fruit (well its originally from New Guinea before it spread around the tropics if anybody wants to argue the point) Queensland de Brueys Boutique Wines 189 Fichera Road Mareeba, QLD 4880 Ph: 07 4092 4515 Fax: 07 4092 4515 *Bush Cherry / Jaboticaba / Lime / Lychees / Mango / Star Apple Endeavour Valley Winery P.O. Box 530 Cooktown, QLD 4871 Ph/Fax: 07 4069 5611 *Cedar Bay Cherry / Jaboticaba / Java Plum / Mango / Passionfruit Golden Pride Wineries 227 Bilwon Road, Mareeba, QLD 4880 Ph: 07 4093 2750 Fax: 07 4093 2668 Mango / Lemon / Lime / Mandarin Murdering Point Winery 161 Murdering Point Road, Silkwood, QLD 4857 Ph: 07 4065 2327 Fax: 07 4065 2247 Lychee / *Lemon Aspen / Mango / *Davidson Plum Pacific Blue Winery Foster Road, Kalunga (Via Herberton), Qld. 4887 Ph: 07 4096 2117 Fax: 07 4096 2116 Grapefruit / Tahitian Lime / Passionfruit / Mango / (Tahitian Lime & Chilli) / (*Davidson Plum & Blood Plum) / Black Sapote. Paradise Estate Winery 6/3 Dewar St Mission Beach, QLD 4852 Ph: 07 4088 6888 Fax: 07 4088 6889 (*Banana, *Coconut, Pineapple and Mangosteen) / (*Bananas, Red Mango and Dragon fruit) / *Banana / (*Bananas, Bush Limes, Mangoes and Persimmon) / (*Davidson Plums, Wild Strawberries, Blueberries and *Bananas) Shannonvale Tropical Fruit Wine PO Box 113 Mossman, QLD 4873 Ph/Fax: 07 4098 4000 Fig / Mango / Star Fruit / Lychee / Parsley / Passionfruit / Grapefruit / Rambutan / Jakfruit / Orange / Purple Star Apple / Water Cherry / Jaboticaba / Baku / Black Sapote / Ginger / Mulberry / Lime. WineWorks Downunder 42 Grigg Street Ravenshoe, QLD 4888 Ph: 07 4097 6968 Fax: 07 4097 6956 (Chilli & Lime) / PawPaw / Jaboticaba / Tahitian Lime / Lychee NSW Bramblewood Fruit Wine 80 Lindsay St, Belford, NSW, 2335 Ph: 02 6574 7172 Fax: 02 6574 7172 Passionfruit / Strawberry / Mango / Boysenberry / Lemon / Pineapple Lonely Palate Winery 7 Church St, Bellingen, NSW 2454 Ph/Fax: 02 6655 1714 *Banana / Elderberry / Jackfruit / Lime / Limon / Mango / Raspberry / (Lime, kiwifruit & mango) Victoria Giverny Estate 69 Cherrys Lane, Toolangi, Vic 3777 Ph: 03 5962 9421 Fax: 03 5962 9180 Kiwi Fruit Hickinbotham at Dromana 194 Nepean Highway Dromana, Vic 3936 Ph: 03 5981 0355 Fax: 03 5987 0692 Strawberry / Mango Monbulk Winery 13 Coulson Rd, Monbulk, Vic 3793 Phone/Fax: 03 9756 6965 Strawberry / Raspberry / Blackberry / Blueberry / Kiwifruit Mt Buffalo Vineyard (Bright Berry Farm) Great Alpine Road, Eurobin, Vic Ph: 03 5756 2523 Raspberry / Blueberry / Blackberry / Apple / Blackcurrent Mt. Markey Winery PO Box 160, Swifts Creek, Vic 3896. Ph: 03 5159 4264 Fax: 03 5159 4599 Mirabelle plum / Elderberry Port Parwill Swill 199 Moorabbee Rd, Knowsley, Vic 3523 Ph: 03 543 91238 plum / apricot / feijoa / cherry Schmidt's Strawberry Winery Osbournes Flat Rd Allans Flat, Vic 3691 Ph: 02 6027 1454 Fax: 02 6027 1452 Strawberry Sunny Ridge Strawberry Farm 244 Shands Road Main Ridge Vic 3928 Ph: 03 5989 6273 Fax: 03 5989 6363 Strawberry Wyanga Park Winery Baades Rd Lakes Entrance, Vic 3909 Ph: 03 5155 1508 Fax: 03 5155 1443 Blackberry / Kiwifruit / *Boobialla Tasmania Hartzview Winery 70 Dillons Road Gardners Bay, Tasmania 7112 Ph: 03 6295 1623 Fax: 03 6295 1723 gooseberry / blackcurrant / blackberry / blueberry / cherry Hillwood Strawberry Farm Hillwood, Tasmania 7252. Ph: 03 6394 8180 Fax: 03 6394 8150 Strawberry / raspberry / blackcurrant / apple Petcheys Bay Vineyard 560 Cygnet Coast Road Petcheys Bay, Tasmania 7112 blueberries Sorell Fruit Farm 174 Pawleena Road, Sorell Ph: 03 6265 2744 Fax: 03 6265 2661 strawberry / raspberry / tayberry / silvanberry / cherry Wilmot Hills Vineyard 407 Back Road, Wilmot, Tasmania 7310 Ph/Fax: 03 6492 1193 blackcurrants / raspberries / elderberries / (Blackberry and Elderberry) / apples South Australia Concordia Fruit Wines Lot 5 Barossa Valley Way Gawler, SA 5118 Ph: 08 8523 0238 Fax: 08 8523 0238 Apricot / Ginger / Peach / Apple / Pear / Quince / Satsuma Plum / Mandarin / Rose Petal / Mulberry / Raspberry / *Quandong / Cherry / Blackberry Thorogoods Apple Wines PO Box 83, Burra, SA 5417 Ph: 08 8892 2669 Fax: 08 8892 3040 Apple / (Apricots and apples) / (sweet apple and Mandarine) Western Australia Birdwood Park Fruit Winery PO Box 26 Balingup, WA 6253 Ph: 08 9764 1172 Fax: 08 9764 1288 Friary Plum / Pear / Apple / Satsuma plum / Apricot / Peach / Pear / Sweet orange / Wild Cherry / Strawberry / Apple Port / Mango Port Eden Gate Blueberry Farm Eden Road, Youngs Siding Albany, WA 6331 Ph:/Fax 08 9845 2003 Blueberry Thornhill Wines R.M.B. Bessell Rd Margaret River, WA Ph: 08 9757 5054 Fax: 08 9757 5116 (plums, raspberries and blackcurrants) / Boysenberry / Kiwi / Dark Plum / Mango / Pear / Nashi / Raspberry

Hi Tryptameanie, there is a native elderberry, the white elderberry, Sambucus gaudichaudianahttp://www.newcrops.uq.edu.au/listing/samb...dichaudiana.htm http://www.utas.edu.au/dicotkey/DicotKey/O...S/gSambucus.htm perhaps we should be encouraging that?

Hi Benzito I dont know where you live, but do you have and friends going to EA to bring home a copy for you?otherwise I can also suggest Green Book http://www.bloomings.com.au/fungiGBC.pdf as they are having a special on it so with postage its still as cheap as Andrew Isles.

Hiya 2b it should be under $45, exact price not known as yet, Bruce Fuhrer has to pick up a new box from his publishers after this weekend.

which of course is quite amusing, as its a native plant of Australia (across up to India), but it isn't native to Hawaii.

Hi all, as part of my project on alcohol from native plants, I have built a list of Meads I have found so far that are made in Australian/New Zealand. ** means its produced from honey derived from a native plant * means it might be, or it has some native plant material in it ? means Im still working on finding out (this is a work in progress) Meaderies Western Australia **Bartholomews Meadery RMB 1067, South Coast Highway Denmark WA 6333 Phone/Fax: (08) 9840 9349 Dry Honey Mead 750ml (various Eucalypt honeys) Medium Honey Mead 750ml Sweet Honey Mead 750ml Metheglin 750ml Honey Liqueur 375ml Blackwood Meadery Lot 1 Brockmany Highway, Karridale WA 6288 Ph: 08 9758 2332 Fax: 08 6210 5960 Honey Honey and Peach Dry Honey Blueberry Rose Honey South Australia *Chateau Dorrien Cnr Barossa Valley Way & Seppeltsfield Road, Tanunda SA 5352 Ph. (08) 8562 2850 Fax. (08) 8562 1416 Sweet Honey Mead (clover honey) Spicy Mead (Cinnamon, Nutmeg, Cloves) Scarlet Mead (Chocolate and Cinnamon) Gran Miele (Jaffa - Chocolate and Orange) Quandong (uses a native fruit - one star) Fragolella Mead (Fresh Strawberries / Honey) Limoncello Mead (Tangy Lemon with Sweet Honey) Amaretto Liqueur Mead (Roasted Almond) Fernangela Liqueur Mead (Hazelnut Liqueur) Dennis Wines PO Box 30 McLaren Vale, SA 5171 Ph: 08) 8323 8665 Fax: 08 8323 9121 Sweet Mead (ground cover honey) Spiced Mead Maxwell Wines Olivers Road McLaren Vale, SA 5171 Ph: 08 8323 8200 Fax: 08 8323 8900 Honey Mead (Lucerne honey) Spiced Mead (Lucerne honey) Liqueur Mead (Lucerne honey) ?Twin Valley Estate Hoffnungstahl Rd Lyndoch, SA 5351 Ph: 08 8524 4584 Mead Victoria **Mt. Markey Winery PO Box 160, Swifts Creek, VIC 3896. Phone: (03) 5159 4328 Fax: (03) 5159 4599 Hours: daily 10am-5pm; closed Tue Olde Horny (Yellow Box honey) Rose of Australia Honey Meade (aged Yellow Box honey) **Walkabout Apiaries Snow Road, MILAWA VIC 3678, Phone: 61-3-5727 3468 Fax; 61-3-5727 3469 Eucalyptus Mead (River red gum honey) Spice Mead (Stringybark honey) Dry Mead (clover) Tasmania Taverner's Mead 1 Nichols Street, GLENORCHY, Tasmania 7010 Ph: (03) 6273 2466 Fax: (03) 6273 2467 'Good Ale' Mead (clover) (also used to make a tea tree mead) New South Wales *Dutton’s Meadery 59 Barraba St, Manilla, NSW 2346 Ph: 02 6785 1148 Fax: 02 6785 1247 several meads - some use Eucalypt honey or ground cover honey, depending on the season. ?Long Point Vineyard 6 Cooinda Place Lake Cathie NSW 2445 Ph: (02) 6585 4598 Fax: (02) 6584 8915 Pyramead Liqueur Mead **Mount Vincent Mead Common Road Mudgee, NSW 2850 Ph/Fax: 02 6372 3184 several meads use various Eucalypt honeys (if you can still find them) ?Windarra Winery 266 Debeyers Road Pokolbin, NSW 2320 Ph/Fax: (02) 4998 7648 Honey Meade Queensland **Barambah Ridge Winery, Vineyard & Cellar Door 79 Goschnicks Rd, Redgate via Murgon, Qld P.O. Box 108, Murgon 4605 Phone: (07) 4168 4766 Fax: (07) 4168 4770 Honey Mead (Eucalypt honey) **Dingo Creek 265 Tandur Traveston Rd, Traveston Qld 4570 Phone 07 5485 1731 Fax 07 5485 0041 Honey Mead (Blue Gum honey) Macadamia Mead (Macadamia honey) Felsberg Winery 116 Townsends Rd Glen Alpin QLD 4381 Phone: 07 4683 4332 Fax : 07 4683 4377 Honey Mead **Norse Wines 24 Damascus Rd Gin Gin Qld Phone: 07 4157 3636 Fax: 07 4157 3637 Norse Gold Mead Liqueur (Mangrove honey) Rimfire Vineyards & Winery Bismarck Street Maclagan QLD 4352 Phone: (07) 4692 1129 Liqueur Mead **Tamborine Mountain Distillery 87-91 Beacon Road North Tamborine, QLD 4272 Ph/Fax: 07 5545 3452 Honey Vodka (Ironwood honey - lots of native trees are known as Ironwood, I have no idea what species it is) ?Wonbah Estate Winery & Vineyard 302 Wonbah Road, Wonbah Via Gin Gin, Queensland 4671 Ph: (07) 4156 3029 Fax: (07) 4156 3035 Honey Mead Liqueur New Zealand ?Bulmer Harvest Customhouse Street Gisborne, New Zealand Ph: +64 6868 8300 Fax: +64 6868 4742 First Knight Mead Mead liqueur ?Celtic Organic Winery 24 Hokio Beach Road Levin, New Zealand Ph: +64 6368 4465 Fax: +64 6367 0080 Celtic Mead **Cottage Wines 81 Branch Road New Plymouth, New Zealand Ph/Fax: +64 6758 6910 Mead Medium (Taranaki honey) Red Mead Medium (Melomel of Mead and Boysenberry) **Haewai Meadery 236 Houghton Bay Road Houghton Bay, Wellington, New Zealand Ph: +64 4387 9541 Festive Mead (multifloral? pohutukawa, tawari or kamahi) ?Havills Meadery Plasketts Road, R D 1 Fernside, Rangiora 8254, New Zealand Ph/Fax: +64 3313 7733 Authentic Medium Mead (clover honey) Authentic Dry Mead (clover honey) Authentic Rata Mead Summer Mead (clover honey) ?The Honey Hive Huka Falls Loop Rd Wairakei Park, Taupo, New Zealand Ph/Fax: +64 4298 1717 Lovers Mead Winter Mead Bees Nees Cream Liqueur ?Nectar Wines PO Box 72 Golden Bay, New Zealand Ph: +64 027 414 2710 Le Champs de Miel **Valhalla Wines State Highway 1 Otaki, Wellington, New Zealand Ph/Fax: +64 4565 1056 Manuka 'Sack' Mead (Manuka honey) Moonlight Rose Gewurtmede Wintermede Gingermede (+ ginger spice) Moonlight Silver Moonlight Gold Heather Gold Liqueur Mead (Heather and Manuka honey) Manuka Gold Liqueur Mead (Manuka honey) **Virgin Gold PO Box 185 Cromwell, Central Otago, New Zealand Ph: +64 3445 4141 Mobile +64 27 445 4143 Manuka Honey Mead (Manuka honey) Kamahi honey mead (kamahi honey) Virgin Gold Honey Mead (rata honey) ?Waireka Honey Cnr SH1 & Rongotea Road Manawatu, New Zealand Ph: +64 6324 8224 Fax: +64 6324 8098 Waireka Gold So any additions, corrections, free samples would be great

Hi Rev Might you be talking about Maori kava?http://www.entheology.org/edoto/anmviewer.asp?a=67&z=5 The plant contains about 0.1% essential oil by steamed distillation which is composed of up to 41.3% myristicin and about 3.1% elemicin (Briggs et al., 1975) also The Rose-leaves Anise, Scandia rosaefolia of New Zealand has up 0.2% dry weight essential oil in its leaves composed of up to 47% myristicin (Briggs et al., 1975). the best of the Australian plants is Zieria covengi with 2% dry weight essential oil in its leaves composed of up to 23.4% myristicin, and also small amounts of safrole, methyl eugenol & elemicin. hope that helps

Hiya Rev Well I was hopeing to find someone who is overthere (or in South Australia) and is coming out for 'Entheogenesis Australis' and can pickup some bottles for which i can pay them back.And I want to hear about how your experiments go.

Hi Smogs its Eucalyptus gunnii, the Cider Gum.Its probably one of the most popular gums in the UK due to its cold tolerence, as it grows on the mountains of Tassie. http://trees.stanford.edu/ENCYC/EUCgun.htm "Specimens of that species called the cider-tree, from its extruding a quantity of saccharine liquid resembling molasses. When allowed to remain some time and to ferment, it settles into a coarse sort of wine or cider, rather intoxicating if drank to any excess." yep, this one is also in the book (in the sap wine chapter), and someone in Gippsland, Victoria has a plantation as they hope to harvest the syrup.

you could be right, but Im relying on the Australian Plant Name Index, when I do a search on Galbulimima at http://www.cpbr.gov.au/win/index.html all it comes up with is Galbulimima belgraveana, although it does have a G. baccata in the system. Himantandra baccata is a synonym of G. belgraveana http://www.anbg.gov.au/cgi-bin/apni?taxon_id=42010 leading me to believe that G. belgraveana is the correct name at the moment.

yes, on a purely research level I have made a list of all the Allyl & Propenyl Benzene Essential Oils in Australian plants for bush food safety data. As the occurence of these in high amounts is a concern for the Bush Food Industry, eg:Tasmannia Lanceolata: Developing a New Commercial Flavour Product www.rirdc.gov.au/reports/EOI/99-124.pdf

"Question 10 of 10: 9. I prefer this new idea better than the old format (Library and or Rubys)? " I suspect there can be more than two options here. This one will be better for certain activities such as bushwalking than the other two were. But if its pissing down rain, then the other two would be more confortable (we are in winter) even with the cabins.

Hi Maca yep, its from Repke, D.B., Mandell, D.M. & Thomas, J.H. 1973. Alkaloids of Acacia baileyana. Lloydia 36(2), 211-213.

Might it be a Grewia species? Grewia polygama has a history of useage from the the Gulf of Carpentaria.

Hi Darcy, I thought it was Galbulimima belgraveana nowdays(sorry, just being pedantic) and as to D. leichardtii, I disagree with the reasons for classifying it as introduced. 1. Ngameni of central Australia know it as Tjultrani (one of the reasons for classifying as introduced was that aboriginies had no name for it) 2. It was discovered and described in Australia long before the gold rush, the obvious point for the plant to have been introduced from Mexico. It was found in Mexico after gold rush miners started returning to their homelands (although most stayed in Australia). 3. There are two subspecies in Australia, and only one of them is known in Mexico.

I hate to say it, but it all depends on what type of experience you want, and also time limits, access to materials, etc. There are heaps of natives that are shamanic in one way or another.There are native tobaccos, Pituri (not common), Lobelia's A native Datura (also not common), Duboisia along with Anthocercis, Crenidium, Cyphanthera Acacia's, morning glories, mushrooms (many sorts) some of the Tabernaemontana's Grewia if you live up north Clerodendrum's cuold be interseting if you live over WA way, possibly some Lycopodium's the lsit goes on.