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awww shucks, thanks and much love to all. flat out atm so im coming back later. just wanted to say thanks and share the love.

*pulls out the chisel and stone plate* sweet so King Edward Park 21st of February. Does anyone have time commitmetns? personally ill want to head in there about 10am if its a hot day, that way im not walking up the huge hill in the heat. and id try hang about all day. what times are people good with? morning or afternoon?

ROFLMAO!!! that is a very valid point, ive known 6 people that this has happened to, and we thanked the doctors as we were informed that they were giving extra morphine to "help them sleep". some of the time the patient is unaware but in either case the doctors are thanked for their compassion. it is an odd state of affairs.

thats a shitcunt load to think about. my whole argument was an oxymoron. i mean i can see both side quite well. personally tho i find that later something changes to make me thankful i didnt act on that impulse. and really thats where i drew my opinion from, was my own personal experience and self reflection over this topic since i discovered the undeniable truth behind such mental illness as others and my own. it is hopeless, your future is either learning to deal with it as best possible, or give in and accept the pharmaceutical sedation. one wishes it would go away or there was a magic cure but really the only 'cure' is death. death ends suffering. but life isnt all suffering and moods change. i believe in each to their own so maybe instead of removing the right to decide as my opinion appeared to reflect, society just put precautionary measures in place. for example when one seeks a divorce it is compulsory to attend state paid counselling (depending on state), when one seeks euthanasia one goes through state paid psychoanalysis. thing is most who consider the idea have already tried and failed countless programs. i myself recently failed the very experimental, severely outdated, and ethically wrong DBT. but ive got to remember im looking at this from a way to personal level, so my arguments are warped by emotion in a way. ive been lucky in learning to accept and how to deal, others arnt so lucky. what about a 10 year old kid with a terminal illness? the parents concent if you shouldn't kill someone whose perceptions are warped (re depression) then what if they're terminally ill and in chronic physical pain, and they're not thinking straight. the suggested psychoanalysis maybe, ofcourse in conjunction with medical/surgical data. all others i say each to their own. or someone who is happy but old? (old age is terminal too) -- about 10 years ago there was a case of a healthy and happy old woman who had decided that she wanted to kill herself because she didn't want to be an invalid in the future. this one reminds me too much of the movie "Logan's Run". but each to their own. i do believe if you want to die you have the right to, but personally im glad its not that easy as i am one who tends to act rashly at the worst of times. think im too emotionally involved in the subject matter. its one ive been thinking about of over a decade.

OMFG!!!!!! im someones father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this was a c-section under general anesthetic if i forgot to mention it. hehe i never doubted you Hunub, nor bacchy, nor obtuse, nor any other the other fathers that told me the same thing LMAO. but yeah was a c-section so a slightly different experience im sad to say, so i cannot relate 100%

fuck no. and i am speaking as someone who does suffer sever depression. its been about 15 years with no end in sight, but maybe im lucky to be manic. if it wasnt for the ups i dont think i could justify tolerating the downs. but one NEVER remembers that in the depressive state.... i say this because moods change. just got to give it time. might appear to take a while but your mood will change. if you experience depression then you MUST have experienced some sort of happiness in life. you cannot have one without the other but in the depressive state there generally is no other. from this i see that perception is warped by the emotion. (IMO what our mind considers reality is only 1/10th reality and 9/10th's perception, so if ones perception is squewd by emotion like depression then their perceived reality of that moment in time will be inaccurate when one considers the time spent in a depressive state against the average life expectancy in this country[race considering]). personally i have exausted all my options. the things i have found that work only work in part. i have made ALL the essential lifestyle changes to better my mental health. but i still believe i should not have the right to be able to die if i choose to unless i have a terminal illness. some could say with my mental diagnoses that my quality of life could be lesser than the standard joe blow (i like to call them muggles). but i disagree, i have the ability of bi-polarity. it is a blessed curse. the yin and yang of mental illness. now im aware that it was depression that was mention, not manic depression or things of the like. but depression is catagorised as a temporary state of emotion. by definition it WILL pass, i wish i could find the reference im thinking of for this.... anyway, i think ive made my point. tho the individual suffering may think its their only option that fact of the matter is that they consider that to be the only option out of an altered perception. which IMO is acting rashly.

my two top wisdom teeth came through sideways and impacted on my rear molars before they fully emerged, shattering them and cracking my molars. was homeless at the time and in NSW dental care aint free (Well there is a free waiting list but my name has been on that since before this started) so i was between a rock and a hard place. i had two options, let them move and fall out themselves or make it happen by attempting to surgically remove them myself. i decided im not that stupid so i let them go themselves. for the 1st year with letting them move out themselves, after that it had cut my gums so much there were two huge callaces growing over the shards of wisdom teeth. sterilized a pair of scissors and removed the scared tissue and re-exposed the tooth stubs myself so i could continue letting em grow out. had plenty of abcesses and infections throught out the time. i expect to have lost all rear teeth in the next 5 years at the current rate of degeneration. annoying thing is the right one has stopped impacting and moving. so on that side i have quite litterally half a tooth. cross section not down middle. moral of the story..... dang i dont know, avoid being homeless? i took care of em but the growth is what screwed everything.

On behalf of my lady, myself and little J.Bob, id like to thank all of you for your love, light, support and well wishes with equal respect to those of you i know and those i have not had the pleasure of meeting yet. it helps to process this whole experience. My friends, sisters and brothers i love you all. Jimmy we will love you forever my little buddy! even if your covered in poo. WARNING!!!! photo contains blood. might upset the squemish. my favorite photo i caught, 4 seconds after his emergence.... just like his daddy with his big feet, large head and huge balls. wow this is insane. im over the moon!!! a perfect little dude!!! i just cant believe it, ive been walking round most of the arvo going "oh wow", "my goodness" and "(sigh)....shit..." in disbelieve, shock and awe. he is exactly 3kg's. exactly on the nose of 3000gm's. 50cm's long and cranium is 40cm round(large skull like his daddy). and again these are exact. there is no milimetres or points or anything. exact measurements. HE IS PERFECT! holy shit this fucking rules!!!!! its amazing...watching the surgery and his emergence was so..... beyond words. im still gathering my thoughts, been home hour and a half and im still piece things together. fucking wow.... ive got this wierd feeling that i cannot shake, that ill wake up tomorrow and this will have been my mind playing tricks on me. not a dream but me tripping balls virtually. this is surreal. EDIT - removed one pic as i got sick of seeing that persons face (not my baby)

ARG wish i hadnt missed it, would have been most interesting. personally im all for it in reguards to people that are suffering IF they choose it. each to their own as i love to say over and over. gotta say, that word "shitcunt" reminds me of a woman i encountered in ER. she had a hysterectomy. surgeon MUST have stitched things together wrong as white, dry and old fecal matter began passing out of her vagina some weeks later. wait what? are we talking about abortion or euthanasia? euthanasia is sympathy killing right? like putting down a wounded animal due to its suffering and poor quality of life. im positive ive got this one right, but my memory has been screwing with me lately so i could be wrong, but im like 100% positive, like the other times....

:D should be a boy by the name of James Robert [(1st & 2nd name) aka JR, Jimmy, Jim, Jim Bob.] much love to you all, ill prolly post pics afterwards if anyone is interested.

thank you all sooo very much for all the warm wishes of love and light. greatly needed right now. Justed showed my lady this thread and she looks all smiley and teary and loved. LOL now she blushed. "your all so nice and lovely" - Caitlin (My Lady)

thanks all. she will be going under the knife and getting a c-section. she has alot of complications to the point they cant give her a spinal block or anything round the lumbar. she broke her back some years ago, it was encased in a cage with some bone from her hip carved into shape of a spare vertebrae, held in place with hutchinsons rods, and was paraplegic for about a year till she somehow recovered and got feeling and movement back in her legs and is now able bodied again. the cage makes it impossible to inject into the spine, so she will be going under general anesthetic with a remefentalin/nitrous and isoflurane/thiopental/succinylcholine cocktail. so its all rather hairy and such in some places, but the way the anesthetics are metabolised none should reach baby so SHOULD be ok. unfortunately natural birth is not an option as she is at risk of re-paralyzing herself. she is an amazing piece of woman this one (sorry if that sounds sexist, not intended).

i remember being in a similar situation countless times. ahhh puppy love aint it sweet. wish i could help

hmmm might be able to make this one..... will see how it goes. would be good if i could for a change. lol miss the sydney crew and bot gardens, but looks like most wont be attending... sall good would still be good, love the gardens.

thanks bud, yeah im already excited and nervous. i feel like its xmas eve and im like 8. and yes i am hoping he will be a sound sleeper. all other bubba's in my family are so im hoping my little one follows suit. totally loosing my mind in a good way. all these hormones have really done a number on me. have been overly sympathetic during pregnancy which was really odd. just totally not with it on ANY topic really, any topic thats not about baby anyway... im generally not so obsessed but yeah. gonna be an awesome event!!!!

didnt we sit down and plan this one camp trip? either mass micro-chipping or conscription im sure we planned to be going out west and go into hiding and then start finding others to create or join a little community of outcasts out in the desert. living underground mainly and wandering above ground from time to time to gather the necessities of a night to try and avoid the government created tracking and chipping drones (you know, the ones that hunt down those without chips and forcibly chips them and returns them to the city for a full course of 'love the leader' programing) id want to remove everyone's chips and plant them in birds. seriously if this shit went down id try my darnedest to get my little family somewhere safe and live outside society as best possible. head up to lightening ridge and tunnel out a house deeper than usual into the bedrock. actually i met a dude who is planning on starting a cacti farm/zombie apocalypse safe house/retreat. IE untill the zombie infection begins it will be simply a cacti farm, then when needed we pack up and head up there to defend against whatever/whoever, government or zombies. it should be ideal if he ever gets the $ to get it started.

what do people think of the 21st then? it good? can we carve it in stone?

hope you feel better dude.

Atleast they give us warning so we can setup a safehouse somewhere inland and make a run when they start chipping people. if it happens i can see rag-bag attempt of civil war and revolt as those who refuse will find they will have to run. logically one would head inland away from the major cities, and possibly consider setting up just inside upper SA or lower NT aera, close to the borders. i can see this area becoming rife with anarchy and a few souls rising up to lead the rebelion as more and more people cross over into this place, now know as the "badlands" by those in the cities, to have their chips removed and join the fight against the powers the be. then i wake up and remember how lazy Australians are.

Awww dang that fucker!!!. But as said Karma will take care of you after all this atleast. and if there is anything after this life then im positive youll be reaping the rewards so to speak. puppies dont act like that, its a sad thing that people do. dont let it jade you tho, you ARE a good person and should stay as such. just dont put all of yourself on the line like that and let the authorities handle it if there is a next time. "dont change man, dont change..." - Spoonie Luv from up above. "Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES!" - Bill and Ted words to live by....

Thats an awesome photo, i look at the things in the background and i see beautiful artwork, beads, lamps and pringles. I LOVE it! Great idea tripi, will be great to read about your progress.

1st weekend of feb is no good for me, my lady is going in for her c-section so ill be tied up. 22nd of feb or anytime after is good here. Also IMHO King Edward Park is the place to meet. its pretty easy to find, pretty in general, shady, cool, lovely view and a short walk to cliffs or beach or anywhere. swung by there a while ago to meet hunub ku but time ran short on me . its still nice there. and temperature wise its one of the coolest places to hang about. its easy atleast 10 degrees cooler than anywhere else in Newcastle, unless your in the water itself ofcourse.

dang i need sleep bad habits die hard. from my time working in ER i got in the habit of refering to any CVA as a "stroke", then after they move to the stroke unit/ward the developed diagnosis was given so in this case my experience fails me. The 24 hour window is advised by the world health org, but yeah i fudged up there as its to divide stroke from transient ischemic attack. got my facts mixed up there. EDIT - Also the WHO info is outdated i notice.

Ahh ha! now i understand the reasoning, but really what if the lad was on meds and ran out. sure i have to admit one shouldn't/wouldn't be that wreakless if they required it so badly in the 1st place, and it is highly unlikely, but that doesn't mean its not possible. Yeah that's if it was overdose etc, ive been thinking it was a stroke myself, and what i was leaning to with my comment on it potentially being too late. There is a window of about 24 hours where one must get checked out or it could lead to permanent disability or death. And Mind Expansion is correct it does appear like the symptoms of stroke. but yes festivals in the area he was found in are a possible indication to how he got so disorientated, i can see why its a possibility. ROFLMAO