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Nice, hope it all goes well for them. Maybe after its shown to be effective, other governments will be forced to look at the positive statistics.

Hiyas, Iv just been pissed off lately about the ban on kava and most probable ban on Qat,that i was on google trying to find an australian pro legalize salvia site (which i sadly couldent) and found myself at a link to the TGA website,so i thought what the hell, iv had some time to burn and some reading wouldn't be bad for me,so i did a search for Salvia and came up with this http://agencysearch.australia.gov.au/searc...amp;form=simple Where there was only 6 documented entries about it 2 done in 2001 and 1 in 2002. ANyway, of those 6 only 3 have any info about it other then the mention of its name. So i thought ild do a quick cut and paste of all the hard work, consideration and time they put into banning Salva. Quotes will be from first to last in time frame. NDPSC Record of reasons, Meeting 32, 21-23 August 2001 NDPSC Record of reasons, Meeting 33, 20-22 November 2001 The last one, And with most information. Record of the Reasons 36th Meeting 15-17 October 2002 End.---(To sum it up to anyone who cant be bothered reading it all, its total shit.) K,so apart from the last 1 the other 2 are pretty short, but this shits me. Most of that is written there should back the legalization argument of it and the people who were is charge should be charged with negligence at work for not properly researching everything. Anyway, So what im getting at is what can we do 5/6 years on with the extra knowledge about it proving its harmlessness? and is there a legalization crew for it? I may have missed some pages before when i was looking for australian pro sally sites, but i found none. What can petitions do? or is their any way of submitting something to someone (that can help) about re-legalizing it? And im not just talking salvia.. i mean we need to fix the wrong with the kava situation, the kratom, the looming cactus situation up in NSW and/or Queensland, and most recently the Qat battle that will lay ahead (im sure i missed some), but no plants should be left behind!. Sorry for the long post but yea, what can be realistically done to stop and even reverse some of these ridicules bans? (Main point of the thread) Peace

Why does it matter who he married? hes not a celebrity like David Hasslehof or something.

whos a lesbian?

civil disorder = government control. ED- Or rather the right to control.

Obama wont win, i got a feeling, even though it seems nearly impossible that he lose.

I actually think the republicans are going to win for some reason. I think in the latest US poll iv seen obama is losing his steam, and ontop of that he's choice for Vice president isent any better then the republicans. Joe biden, or whatever his name is from a little research i done on him since he got chosen says he was a part of the people that put the Drug czar together, and a war on drugs policy maker. So its looking pretty dim no matter who wins. On a side note, with the so far 3? assassination attempts of Barack i wouldent be suprised if there wont be more. some maybe even with some high up governmental support but who knows. If that happens and the democrats win then biden wins top job. so basically a republican in democrat clothing. AND before i go, if Barack obama does get killed, (god forbid) maybe Charles Manson's predictions of Helter Skelter will come true lol. Strange world we live in. gotta love it

Maybe the stronger bees will learn to cope with the change and evolve to learn to thrive from GM crops, as will humans. maybe.

Any updates Niall? hope all is well.

yea, it is kind of stupid lol, but i donno, guess its just the fear of the fear you feel in those milliseconds. a possible "hell" that lasts a second, but from what i remember when i thought i was going to die wi th my panic attack the feeling even though it lasted a second felt like an eternity.. Im working on it slowly, i think the way you view is it of a Buddhist nature? which is good and smart, just harder to attain for some then others

War is war, iv said this b4. its in our blood,what we do. Imagine this, the usa (or any other country)becomes peaceful, gets rid of its nukes and halfs its army. all the people in the us turn to a 60s mentality and everything is peaceful. Meanwhile, the people not too far who happen not to embrace this new and un naturalistic culture see it as a weakness and decide since that they dident get rid of their nukes, and they have an army of a a few 100k why not invade this peace loving nation witch no army? who is going to stop them? There is always crazy people that get into politics to push for their own racist,imperialist, corporate, superiority complexities or whichever other interest they happen to be in. All it takes is a few people to turn a peace loving people into a warmongering people with a few cleaver tricks. SO yes, war is shite, but it happens and everyone has to be ready for their DEFENSE. Tho, on the other hand, another theory iv thought out lately is that maybe war is ment to happen.i mean most biological organisms fight, animals. maybe we must fight till there is just "one" left, thus unity = peace. but that is fascist type thinking. Plus, that can be done with diplomacy one would hope. ED- For as long as we have been controlling the sea borders and access to oil that comes with it.

Im not so much afraid of it, i dont have any strong believes in what happens when you go as yet, but i fear it in the way that, whichever way you go there is a pain to it, since i had my first and strongest panic attack where i thought i was going to die without a shadow of a doubt, well thats what i fear, that feeling. And after watching my grandmother die in the hospital last month while she was sleeping (induced coma) , i saw the moment she left, and even in her sleep she let out a little shock/jump with a last hard gasp of air. so everyone that says its good to go in your sleep i think are mistaken, theres no difference. when you go, like it or not, afraid of it or not, you feel it. i fear the feeling of it.

Quite true.. the eternal slumber of peace...Fade To Black. (only bad part would be the few minuets before you go )

AH, just did a quick wiki search, yea their south american. Saw this cool picture too - The Cane toad invasion, *enter doomish music here*

I cant remember who interoduced them, but im pretty sure noone wants em. i saw this this ages ago about a town in queensland that has a cane toad whacking day, alot like the one in the simpsons..strange but i guess their supposedly causing harm to the natural order of things as they are introduced to australia, regardless who of introduced em. Their native area is south america yea? i cant remember exactly n cant be bothered doing a search atm

Wow, from the testimony torsten gave your brief, and the new information you gave out i cant not believe that somthing interesting is boiling. Nice work Niall, sorry for doubting you ill help in any way i can. Like yeti said also,ittle be a good for everyone to get ready for a PR campaign once it goes public. Everyone here that uses Facebook (i dont, but ill make an account ) should get ready to spread the word, send a msg to friends and tell em to send it to all theirs and so on, i think that might be a good way for individuals to find out about it. Also, im not on the nook or ega so anyone whos on those should let the people there know. Keep it up, and give your friends a kiss for me

Well done guys, I havent been on long enough to post for abit, but i like where this thread has gone. Ill start compiling some studies focused on different plants,their uses and stuff like that until we get more organized. Good links everyone, ima have a good read of em soon and nice going on the other thread yeti. Peace

Yea, theres mainly only fruit bats where i live in melb. This is weird, i wonder how long it takes Chavez to denounce these bats as imperial scum.

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Keyword- overseas.

It sounds like alot like your opinions on the matter stem from the abuse you mention that youve gone though Bap, and thats kind of understandable but think how much more information you could have had if there was a gov backed scheme to inform people smartly and supply clean chemicals. Your bad experiences shouldent stop a million other people from having a good one.

Cool, so only 10 or so days till we can hear the master plan? I dont know why, but your confidence fills me with doubt. Ill be waiting for your next update tho.

Thats what i wonder Torsten, how much of a dent has it really made to them specifically (the mafia). Also, What a spicy meat a ball! I remember watching a documentary about the Sicilian mafia in the 80s i think it was, about the heroin trade to the USA though Sicily, anyway they used the same method, they where shipping "tomatoes" to pizza shops all over the east coast of america. but then they got brought down (Theres also a movie about that, think its called Falcone, thats the name of the guy that brought em down.) and the american connection was broken for a decent amount of time. I wonder if this is going to compair to the 80s busts, because it sounds like they got some high up people, unless thats just talk.

Thats not an argument, thats just a fact.

Lol