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  1. Posted

    2 days before heart surgery:wink:

    Wasn't because of it... But it wasn't helping. After having the chest cracked open I really want to avoid that shit again. My resolve was bolstered after being taken offline during that event. 

     

    I'd been on and off a few times, of prolonged and at times pretty heavy death stick use. Kicking off when I could just walk in and buy them in my school uniform of a morning. 

     

    I never was a user of "spin", I still don't understand that. Spin users I've noticed Really struggle to kick the things. I at one stage had two bowls on the go mine and another for my brothers from other mothers as most wouldn't tackle my bowl. 

     

    Still use tobacco on occasion in other forms smokeless, but ciggies can just F off as far as I'm concerned ... Ciggies are the lowest form of baccy IMO served up to us here   -  if at all, with some principally just being made mostly  of "sheet".... Substituted sheet alright. 

     

    FFS I found Indonesian ciggies as an example of being better quality than what we were, and now served up. 

     

    Do I want one.... Yes, yes I do for I am an addict:wink: because the things did what they were designed to do. They smell like shit to me now though, decent pipe and some cigars still smell really good though and tempting as all hell.

     

    Having as much time away from second hand smoke helps a lot, and hide /remove ashtrays :wink: 

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  4. Posted · Edited by waterboy 2.0

    Did a quick search, couldnt find anything relevant. 

     

    I started off a couple of pots of M. pudica to rotate through my lads classroom so he and the other munchkins had something to get them thinking about plants in a different way:wink:

     

    The light levels are low in the classroom location , so rotation is working well and... Lol.. Can give them a rest from the kids and lol adults provoking a response from the plants. 

     

    They are doing well... But I reckon I could push them harder:lol:. They are in a fairly rich potting mix. 

     

    Question... Anyone got any experience with how much of a feeding they can take? Are they prone to burn? 

     

    Probably an experiment I should get too, but currently want to avoid ending the plants whilst they have enquiring minds engaged. 

     

    Edit - my gut feel is they'd respond, however Temps are dropping and is probably the limiting factor

     

     

     

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  13. Posted · Edited by waterboy 2.0

    Curing is colour cured to end point  In case of tobac.  Yep you want to get it brown in presuming, that can take a month + hang, but if the humidity got to low during  it will hold green. 

     

    Heat with low/no  humidity is not desirable at all whilst chasing colour. 

     

    Month + hang is typical, and a fluctuation in day/night humidity is really beneficial. Even after its not unusual for extended hanging, 

     

    Stage 1 get it to final colour (air, sun, flue, heap ferment ect) , step 2 age (natural, kiln, ferment). 

     

    Rust will hold green into the veins hard to the  last point ,  but if the humidity gets to low it will stop curing and hold green. No fix once it dries off, it's dead as such and the processes stopped. 

     

    When heat gets used such as flue curing  for commercial baccy it's a high heat and humidity operation with a decent air exchange.  Used to speed up and provide a uniform product that can be planned for In production. 

     

    Regularly pull it apart and turn it/restack :wink:it needs daily, sometimes twice attention . It can cure it in a much quicker time.  Molds love the higher heat and humidity.... Typically you can first spot on the end of the leaf stem for most, but a few prefer the leaf surface. 

     

    Keep a spray bottle handy, it's unlikely down here but may need a little mist if heat producing advances fast. It's a warm/moist process, the heat as such internal driven. 

     

    If exploring a pile cure/ferment after getting it to Colour, hang and age a bit whilst bringing the moisture content back a little (reduce mold risk) , then age on in storage which should be at a lower humidity than at least Tassie ambient. 

     

    Hope that's of some assist bro:wink:

    Time for an early pharma breakky.... Lol

     

    Note - this is for getting the most out of your personal organic pesticide production:wink:

     

     

  15. Posted · Edited by waterboy 2.0

    They only go dormant if it's cold enough

     

    Edit - I'm not sure of the exact point, but it's defo under 8 degrees. It has to hold under the point, or they'll try to jump off again. 

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    After Colour curing, it really depends on what the intended end use is and how much time you plan for.... Stuff up the Colour cure and you will battle with subpar material. 

     

    Although I have read of dry green rustica being used in a traditional  snuff mixture. I'd imagine that's pretty rough... Lol... I'd still presume it's aged though. 

     

    You need to keep the humidity up whilst Colour curing, if it dries it will kill off the process and it'll hold green. Its lost from the cells, you can't get that back in. You can let it dry after Colour curing. 

     

    Ideally you want them "primed" at least which is starting into yellowing /browning before twisting free of the stem. If you can't get them primed, then a quick stack ferment helps set them off. 

     

    Rustica tends to cure straight to brown, skipping yellow, often holding green vein in for a while. A few months hang is not unusual, and an alternating day/night humidity helps a lot.

     

    If heap curing need to be vigilant with Rustica due to the nature of the leaf or it'll run to basically compost if neglected. It does speed up the process, but note it will have a higher sugar content than air dry. If you were to flue cure with heat, more sugars retained again.  Sugars are worth noting but no need to dive into it here. 

     

    Several ways to skin the cat....each to their own. 

     

    I've been an air and sun cure man on occasion when deemed the go, with long aging  myself. Aging is your friend... 12 months plus, the longer it goes the better the outcome. Every year brings out flavour and odor in most baccy varieties. It gets better with age pretty much with most methodologies though, part of its mystery. 

     

    Cardboard box and a lower humidity than out in the shed once Colour cured.. :wink: spray a little moisture on when you need to work with it to make pliable again. It's a fascinating thing to see at work... Something that could be crushed to dust become like a thin pliable leather quite quickly. 

     

    Fermenting basically is sped up aging..... Although some subtle flavour/odor can develop with some techniques like "perique" method. 

     

    Aging is important.... That's the part that's similar to bud curing. 

     

    Rustica is more frost resistant BTW as well, so it should tick over a bit longer than you think Humbolt. 

     

    Lol... Topping rustica I've found just makes it really angry and it'll make you work hard keeping up:lol:but it can produce a few larger leaves.

     

    There's no single way though... And that's worth noting. 

     

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    If you get up around launnie, it's in my main stomping grounds so it a good chance if I'm up for it :wink: I catch a few here and there in my travels, although I'm getting more hermit like.... 

     

    Taswegians don't need fanfare:lol:

    There would have to be biscuits.... But no iced VoVos. 

     

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  20. Posted · Edited by waterboy 2.0
    Spelling and shit

    An aside, today the initial "amped" up response after feeding is barely noticeable. (as expected). 

     

    The daily paddock wander and "work " surprised me. Usually end up with a rabbit or a hare or two,probably every 2-3 days.... Dragged 5 back today... Lol...  Coincidence me thinks, but quite keen

     

    Been less sooky when not In the same fence line... Although will stare at me if in view sending out the guilts.

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    You know I've looked into that RC:wink:

    First thoughts went there...

     

    Honestly the current CBD product pet market in the US is suspect AF IMO looking into it, the potential is there but.

     

    Lack of  study for a rapidly growing pet Industry is really intriguing. FA regulation is the problem.  It's selling well and making folk some good monies though.... 

     

    There's a lot of assumptions, wild extrapolation and baseless claims, not one study I can find that even suggests treatment of anxiety or associated conditions  in canines, and that's even chasing back through references of the very limited works. Basically there is no data...

     

    Apparently well  tolerated (from pain/osteoporosis studies)  , but some diarrhea is commonly reported side effect reported, that's probably a dietary change thing or the formulation of the product as a guess.... 

     

    Other than anecdotes and marketing praises the jury is still out with me on efficacy. 

     

    I'm not adverse to it saying all that.

     

    I've missed my opportunity for suitable profile material to trial:wink: but not in a position to expend coin, although if I was I'd work up from a human product than the marked up pet products for sure. 

     

    Certainly not going to feed anything with an adjacent thc profile:lol: 

     

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  23. Posted · Edited by waterboy 2.0

    Yes I have Alc, should have mentioned it. Nope, zero effect. The force is strong. 

     

    Benadryl as well was trialed but that just munts her down. She is supposed to be a busy dog:wink:

     

    Then the vets further suggestions are more severe chemical muntings that seriously mess/"mask" with her personality. 

     

    Dietary changes have been trialed as well. "raw" diet exacerbates her behavior which surprised me

     

    She's a lovely, loyal dog, crazy brave.... Just stresses herself stupid....The  breed combo is defo a factor. Probably the most intelligent dog I've had about. 

     

    Will also note, when we are all completely off property and she can hear the vehicle has gone she will settle down and relax on watching trail cam video. 

     

    Me dropping a couple times(and unresponsive for a bit)  when a true puppy really probably entrenched a bit of this. She really loves the shit outta me... Lol... 

     

    It may end up being that this is the nature of things, and that's fine it's not bothering neighbors ect... Just 

     

     

     

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    Not often I've read any animal angled material here or elsewhere. 

     

    I will slowly add to this thread, link some references and my approach, and how things are panning out. 

     

    The only "issues"  I have come across is the claim in one study of ataxia in male wistar rats with extract, with  antidepressant activity. The second is using unfermented raw material with wistar rats which displayed a reduced physiological stress response but produced inflammatory responses. 

     

    Cats and dogs have been examined at dosage ranges of 100mg/kg and 10mg/kg twice daily of milled material respectively with no adverse effects.

     

    Wistar rats in another oral toxicity study at 14 and 90 day durations have been observed to have no adverse effects with extract at levels up to 5000mg/kg daily(14 dys) and 600mg/kg daily (90 dys). 

     

    Why am I looking at this? :wink:

    Many dogs can suffer from anxiety, separation anxiety is one common facet with some breeds being more prone. 

     

    After the death of our older dog, the "pup" has really amplified her separation anxiety... Lol... Particularly with me... Yeah I be numba one. 

     

    Examples include making sure I'm breathing when I've gone down with fatigue on the couch(are you dead?) and getting up in my face. If asleep I'll get a light paw tap on my face to get a response. 

     

    Manically barking at me on returns home.... Even short periods. ("berating" bark). The others in the family get this to a lesser degree. 

     

    Highly territorial, strong guarding instinct .. Lol... I'll pity the fool that may poke around unannounced come nightfall. Very keen hunting instinct. 

     

    Constant "sooking"  when I'm outside the house yard doing something and have left her inside it. Previously she would break out and find me in the scrub, but now has established that that is not OK. 

     

    Occasionally digging, not often buy when it does occur its a decent excavation. 

     

    Gets a heap of exercise, lots of room, heaps of things to chew on ect... Loads of stimulation. Less socialized than desirable though, obedient but strong willed. 

     

    Would happily be a lap dog... Lol

     

    She's a crossbreed and currently entire, German short-haired pointer x border collie.... 

    (some are laughing... Yeah WB that might do it:lol:) . 

     

    So I have a dog capable of running down and taking down a deer, with the intelligence to do it in the most efficient manner. 

     

    But if I'm not about.. Lol... She stresses out. When the family is home and I'm out, she is pining and constantly  alert for my return .  It's quite manic at times. 

     

    Interesting enough the smell of fermented skelly is extremely attractive to her. I'll presume it's the "salty" smell it has. 

     

    If I have any in my pocket /backpack she is at it. So a few days back I pulled out a tin to chew on a bit and the dog is up on it.... Hmm.... So I dabbed my thumb in an held it out, and the stuff was gone... Lol... Just a dusting on my thumbprint. 

     

    Few hours later the already energetic dog has established a new personal best for laps around the house... Lol.. Later in the evening much more settled, rather than the constant vigilance to guarding. 

     

    Following day... Less needy, less noise,  anxiety appears to  be reduced. 

     

    Rinse and repeat for  three more days, and there appears to be some difference to the severity of the separation anxiety. 

     

    So.... Ima gunna drug her... Lol:wink:

    I'll start establishing a weighted dose and  do 30 days and assess again. 

     

    Fermented material, ground, sprinkled onto the morning feed. Initially I was thinking morning dosed as the initial increase in activity is quite noticeable.. Lol....

     

    I am reading that 10mg/Kg milled dry kanna twice daily in food  is well tolerated by canines with no identified adverse effects* (very comprehensive testing and monitoring). 

     

    This is where I will be starting this trial.... I'm hoping it can be used for a period to break some behaviors, but currently i am not adverse to ongoing maintenance use if well tolerated. 

     

     

    * Hirabayashi, M., Ichikawa, K., Fukushima, R., Uchino, T., Shimada, H., 2002. Clinical
    application of South African tea on dementia dog. Japanese Journal of Small
    Animal Practice 21, 109–113(in Japanese) 

     

     

     

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