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  1. unfortunately old growth forest is legally considered renewable!

    actually, burning old growth forest for electricity is considered a renewable source of 'green' energy, can you believe that :blink:

    Its not quite that simple.

    It could certainly be classified as carbon neutral as long as the area was replanted with a species that will capture the same amount of CO2 per unit area. Any firewood is considered carbon neatral as long as the forest it came from is replanted

    Renewable is a vague term that is not really applied to old growth forests as the time taken to attain that carbon is extremely long when compared with a plantation with the purpose of capturing carbon

    One could for instance say that coal and oil are indeed renewable if you are prepared to wait long enough.

    I think for a energy source to be renewable the process has to be able to repeated on a regular basis with a net return that makes the option viable in relation to the expenditure outlayed via inputs. If man could produce large oil or coal fields, that time frame could be hundreds of years, but for trees I think the cycle would have to be 4 to 5 growing cycles per human lifespan

    I however believe tha whole science involved with forest sinks is dubious at best as accumulation of carbon and the turnover of biomass (eg leaf fall and degredation which generates GHG's) is different for every climate and even every growing season, and bound to change with a changing climate. Furthermore, the carbon only remains captured for the lifetime of the wood product it goes into which could be a very short lifespan up to maybe a couple of hundred years at best, which means that at best you are only delaying that carbon being released into natural systems and ultimately the atmosphere by only a handful of generations of men.

    Now a cool tree friendly idea I got at xmas was a recycled paper card with a seed built into it. After the festivities are over you plant and water your card to grow a nice native plant! I was pretty stoked with that!


  2. yeah, the problem as I see it is the one strike and your out mentality of the zero tolerance regime set up by the last government.

    If people where faced with a justice system that allowed for people to make mistakes and learn from them ie positive outcomes rather than possibly ruining the rest of their lives for a silly youthful mistake, then these situations will arise less often

    Sure the dealer carrying around 100 pills in his pocket will still be fucked and I don't have any compassion for him, but if a young guy or girl ends up with a criminal conviction for a small bag of pills or meth bought for them and their friends, I think this is a bit tough.

    I travel a fair bit, and I know that If I had a criminal conviction for drugs there would be a lot of places I wouldn't have been able to see (I might not be living in Australia now!)

    Three of my past employers and my partners last two employers and all her future employers in her industry have done and will do criminal record checks. I dare say I would have been disadvantaged if I had ever been charged with a drugs offence.

    I definitly see where you are coming from Ace and that we had a different interpretation of insp Duthies statement. Yes I think it nonsensical to swallow shit in your pocket to avoid detection (especially when you can just drop it on the ground), but some people just don't think things through :scratchhead: especially when sniffer dogs are runing all over the shop :P and I would hope that the police realise this as a possibility rather than dismissing it as ludicrous as Duthie states

    LOL Ace I'm glad you don't think I'm an idiot :P and agree with everything you have said! My main gripe isn't even with the police who are just doing a job, but with the zero tolerance policy. It needs to be reviewed and rewritten to actually minimise harm that may occur B) and avoid the need for convictions - atleast on a first and minor offence.


  3. Are you kidding Foolsbreath? I can totally see the logic in this guy's words. If you'd rather swallow that bag of pills (or whatever it is that you're carrying) than face up and give them to the cop who is about to search you (and will likely notice anyway), then you truly are an idiot.

    Um Thanks Ace

    Firstly I think pills are shit and don't take them, or meth, its all crap. :BANGHEAD2:

    All I was saying is that its stupid to think that people aren't going to take whats in their pocket which may be a few points or a couple of extra pills than get a criminal conviction and face the consequences of that. Cause some people will. I didn't make a judgement call on whether that makes a person an idiot or not, only that I'm sure it happens and that Insp Duthie is naive for saying that that is "absolute nonsense" which I take to mean that he doesn't believe that it happens or that the police presence would catalyse such a situation in any way . Who knows what some people do when they are off their heads.

    I wouldn't be dumb enough to go there in the first place let alone for carrying anything shitty like that around. I honestly think the whole rave thing is pretty dumb

    For the record ace I wouldn't swallow a bag of pills, but I also aint that stupid that I'd go and hand them over to the nearest cop, But I wouldn't find myself in that situation anyway :scratchhead:

    I also have stated that I think hospital staff have every right to be angry when confonted with people fucked up on too much meth, just as they have the right to be pissed at people who smoke ciggies till they catch cancer, or eat so much they endanger their lives


  4. I'm pretty sure all the orthopaedics know each other, always buggering off to conferences as a good excuse to enjoy travelling around the world. Did you ever sit down with your dad as a kid and enjoy 'family television' that consisted of watching orthopaedic procedures? I found it fascinating and could probably attempt a total knee replacement but would need a willing victim :P

    What colour is your high horse? I've always thought mine was a brilliant white :P

    Unfortunately our medical system needs a lot of work, and I take my hat off to those who have the right intent and stick around in the system in order to make a difference. I totally agree that the human psyche can overcome the ills of the world, or more aptly put the ills of the mind. I feel that it will be a slow process but nature is wonderful at perfect balance.

    LOL we've probably crossed paths ourselves at some point in time! and yeah, we've been privi to a few of those vids, it was the reason we got one of those new fandangal VCR players back in the early 80's :)

    And yeah there are some real stayers in the health system, and it is usually the more down to earth docs who are in there for the good of all. It seems to be a real shit fight between them and the beaurocrats to maintain the essential services in the public system.

    and Back to the thread

    "Confronted with such a police presence, some individuals are tempted to unwisely consume all their drugs in one go, rather than throw them away or risk arrest," Mr Brogan said.

    "If police operations are increasing the risk of death and harm in the community, perhaps it is time to rethink."

    Acting Inspector Chris Duthie dismissed Mr Brogan's argument as ludicrous.

    "It's an absolute nonsense," Insp Duthie said.

    "If these people are that stupid to think taking drugs has better consequences than getting caught, that really is ridiculous."

    This is one of the most naive statements I have read :BANGHEAD2:

    If insp Duthie is that stupid that he thinks it "absolute nonsense" that people may consider this as an alternative to facing the australian justice systems zero tolerance policy, then that really is ridiculous


  5. Good point XipeTotec :)

    Foolsbreath - trying to change another's mind with words is a fruitless exercise :) I'm enjoying the discussion and curiosity often propels my questions and comments.

    LOL me too! :)

    Good point XipeTotec :)

    My father is also a doctor, an orthopaedic surgeon

    Mine too, They probably have met :unsure: that 7 degrees of speration thing is scarily true!

    Good point XipeTotec :)

    Why is it that there is an epidemic of people killing themselves, be it quickly or slowly? Resolve the cause(s) and the symptoms will vanish :)

    You got me, I was trying to duck out before this point was made :blush:

    It was screaming at me the whole time. That over eating and smoking are diseases in themselves much more obscure than the secondary and much more obvious diseases resulting from the addictions, but I still firmly believe that the human phsyche can overcome this, all people need are the right tools. This however is a much harder point to debate and be so onesided, and I don't believe anyone in a hospital can provide these tools effectively. For this you really do need a true healer

    I'll get off my high horse now LOL :wink:


  6. Most sickness can be avoided as it is often self-induced. This doesn't necessarily mean it is a conscious or informed decision :) Again, how does getting angry help the situation?

    This may be true, but when the cause, effect and preventative measures are well documented and made a matter of public notice one can't help but become angered.

    My father is a doctor and he becomes irrate when people try to pass the buck in such a way. The health system is collapsing under peoples self absorbant lifestyles and decisions and the consequences of these.

    To make an analogy in my line of work, say I run out of sulphur and a parcel of sulphur meant to preserve a product is lost in transit and the product perishes, one can not get angry at any particular individual, but when someone is asked to order sulphur repeatedly and they ignore you till the product perishes, I have every right to become angry because the situation could and should have been avoided.

    I liken this to someone getting cancer from eating a diet containing a little known carcinogen unbeknown to them as opposed to someone getting cancer from chuffing down a pack a day with a picture of a ravaged lung on the front of it

    Both self induced and probably avoidable, but completely different situations generateing completely different responses.

    I don't know anyone who wouldn't anger at the situation that has occured in my line of work, and see little difference between that situation and that situation that a doctor faces probably every day.

    'Just doing a job' rather than having a desire to help and heal people is indicative of the problems in our medical system. I feel comfortable applying the term 'healer' to anyone who helps someone to cure/treat sickness. I apply it to all manner of people, ranging from doctors to shamans to the old bloke who sits on a bar stool and offers sagely advice to all the youngens passing through. Healing can take on many more forms than eating pills :)

    I completely agree that healing takes more forms than eating pills, and that was indeed my point, that working in a hospital doesn't make you a healer. but if we were to try and fill the hospitals with only true healers, we wouldn't even have a health system as they are far and few between.

    I have many friends who work in the health sector and yes, unfortuanetly for some its all about the cheque at the end of the week. But it is a job and people will get angry when they are faced with a lack of care or 'poor management' in any profession, and that is what obesity through over eating and cancer via smoking is, a complete lack of care for and poor management of ones own vessel. Not only that its an epedemic, god they must be sick of seeing lives needlessly wasted!

    were going to have to agree to disagree on this one, cause you aren't going to change my perspective, and I'm sure I'm not going to sway your's either :) but I can understand why people can and do get angry with patients who would probably heal better if they weren't treated by someone who is pissed at them (or at least with the general malaise associated with these self inflicted diseases that are well publicised) :(


  7. I can certainly understand that sentiment, but how does a healer getting angry at a sick person help to heal them? Should we get angry at people who eat nothing but shit and cause themselves heart disease? Should we get angry at smokers who cause themselves cancer? Should we get angry at schizophrenics who fail to take their medication and have an 'episode'? I fail to see how anger is helpful in healing.

    Um I would say yes to the first two and no to the third

    Why shouldn't a 'healer' and by this I mean a member of the hospital staff, be peeved that they are wasting valuable resources when the circumstances could and should have been avoided.

    With a schizophrenic patient the circumstances are very different. Even on their meds they are still mentally ill, and the meds often make them feel very uncomfortable with themselves, it is such a terrible struggle for them when they are half sane. I am sure their 'healers' would be more compasionate in their regard for such a situation

    I also believe that many hospital staff are not true healers and are just doing a job. I don't feel comfortable about applying that term to anyone who has a part in a patients treatment as the term 'healer' would then have far too broad a definition

    A true healer would probably not be angered by anyones physical distress (obviously I am not a true healer, cause these scenarios do anger me :unsure: and am probably somewhat of a hypocrite as I do not treat my body with the upmost respect that it may deserve although I eat well, don't drink or smoke, I don't keep myself in peak physical or mental condition)


  8. Did you have any problem with it at all, getting it to change directions?

    No, pretty much straight away :)

    Who said the illusion had anything to do with shadows or arms? To trick the mind however, some people have to think of the animation in a certain way and the easiest way to do that, for me at least, is to put emphasis on the shadows. The whole body for me was too constant in it's direction to allow me to see it go in any other way.

    Not you! :) Thunderideal did, and I found that that had no bearing on the spin as I could easily remove all of those functions and still get it to change direction


  9. the shadows are the key - when it appears to be rotating clockwise, the shadow of her extended leg spins towards you and in front of her stable leg as she rotates clockwise.

    No, cause I can cover up the shadow and still get it to spin both ways not a problem

    Nothing to do with looking at the foot either, maybe it helps some people though cause of the thought patterns involved

    Breast entry appears perfect both ways :)

    I can cover up more than half the body and still get it to spin either way on demand

    Why do you say trixy TI? Because your brain is perceiving it in a different way? Isn't that what it is all about?

    I can also cut the picture of just below the breasts by moving my screen down and still get it going either way, ie cant see hands are most of the arms, In fact just tried it with only the head and no other part of her body and can get her head to spin both ways easily enough!

    LOL Thats funny shit, so yeah I really dont know how it works! But its got nothing to do with shadows feet or arms or the height of body parts, but probably that its spinning slightly off axis and the way your brain interprates this as a directional function?


  10. I see where this COULD help where family's are involved as it would mean that kids would have access to food, clothing etc (although these items might soon be pawned for a fraction of what they are worth)

    But my belief is children should not be in family's where there is hard core drug addiction. Take kids out of the equation and this is just an idiotic proposal, obviously aimed at getting votes from voters with no notion of what drug addiction involves or the consequences on the addict. People who have been unlucky enough to get caught for weekend misdeamenours would be unfairly discriminated against

    Unemployment + Apathy + Dissilusionment often leads to drug use.

    Really? I don't think so. I believe its more like

    drug use often leads to Unemployment + Apathy + Dissilusionment

    Most people I know who have run into trouble started with a job (usually at a young age) or straight out of school, usually living at home, had money to burn, lefty home, burnt too hard, became addicted, lost their job and then the downward spiral begins. problem is once you have been an addict it is very hard to reintegrate into the working society. there is often residual mental/anxiety problems, word gets around to potential employers about your past, when you do get some income its hard to resist old urges etc etc

    I think howards an idiot saying "oh we'll just offer more job training as part of the package" First you have to totally repair their mental and physical capacity to reintegrate which requires kid gloves, lots of love and patience

    I'd send them to an Iboga retreat and then 5 years living in a nature fishing to get food and living in a society where they learn to rebuild their trust in other people and themselves by becoming self sustaining and gaining an appreciation for all life.


  11. Well Thats it

    Don't thinkI can go

    Unfotunately I've had a bad virus which put me in hospital this week and I haven't been able to work etc etc

    So I think I'd better give others a chance to grab my ticket :(

    pm me if you want it or know anyone who wants it.

    Mainly looking for cash, but may consider trades


  12. Yes

    Me so sorry :blush:

    Had a broken puter thanks to the storms and a nasty virus keeping me down

    BUT

    the results are in

    For those who did not say which one they guessed on, the guess will be assumed as the middle and smallest which is the main prize winner

    the runner up prizes awarded for guesses on the right and left ones will get a small pach cutting each :)

    The tall one on the left was 1263mm and the closest guess is 1504 by goldfinger

    The smaller one on the right was 774 and the closest guess is 1011 by Maya

    The Major prize draw was for the smallest one in the middle

    Measuring 718mm and the closest guess is 732 by Lampy only a mere 14mm off :)

    Ok guys drop me an addy and I'll get those off soon!

    Cheers for playing and sorry for the delay :)


  13. Ok Guys!

    Sorry about the delay, My computer did a big poo all over itself, so I now have a new second hand and considerably slower replacement just set up!

    Please await confirmation of winning guesses sometime today :)


  14. Take a break mate, don't think about trying a high dose lsd or pre dosing to fix the problem. I have had more than one friend who went hard for longer than anyone 4lse. evrything was cool till they lost it, and guess what. They NEVER came back

    Yup fucked for life

    Cant even have a reasonable converstaion with them, good friends GONE

    Be careful, the warning signs may be there, not saying this will happen to you, but i've seen it happen

    Take heed of what your body is telling you


  15. NOO

    You have to figure out which one of the three scop arms to measure, you get one one chance if you think you guessed the wrong one

    This is all I will say

    I will find bonus prizes for guesses on the others so if ya's do stuff it up, your still in the running for something :) so ya's may as well guess on each one There, easy, done

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