Sonny Jim
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congrats but definitely post picks if you are inexperienced with subs. I often find lookalike species close enough to be considered the same patch as nice subs.
try to bruise a small but visible part of each stem in photos if you post some.
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i think it depends on what you are studying.
some subjects at uni are soooo god dammed much work that it would literally be impossible to do a proper job of the course work and actually work 38 hours a week on top of it all. That's definitely true for a science degree involving a lot of chem and maths.
it's not hard to find yourself in a position where you simply run out of hours in the day, even if all you do is study and work.
I worked nights part time through all my first degree and i was always worried about running out of time with course work. I actually still have dreams about it and wake up in a panic thinking i have an assignment due that i'd forgotten about.
but having said all that i'd probably advise you to go for it. Even if you fuck up first semester and realise you simply must drop a couple of units, it will be worth it. Heck, even if you realise uni is a crock off shit and drop out after a month it'l be worth it...just don't lose your job over it.
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anyway i read back through the thread and I wonder if I have inadvertantly made my first post sound like I was disagreeing or something like that with you in my first post when I said I don't think it is actually splitting hairs. Of course your response to the thread title was valid because the thread title kinda made it seem like the OP was trying to say Kratom is not an opiate...of course it is not an opiate but they are opioud type of compound in the sense that they reckon it works like one and does effect the right opiate receptors
I should have written something to concur with the first two post before I got carred away talking about indoleamines.
and it's OK I have already studied a lot of pharmacology and organic chemistry at uni, I don't like to be specific about my background because I don't want to identify my self but I am currently working through my second degree (just over half way finished) which happens to be in medicinal chemistry and my first degree was in the medical sciences so I am OK with a lot of the current theory if that's why you asked about uni. But I will also say that I don't think the usual pharmacology and chemistry units people have to do to get science degreess are necessary to put one's self through to be able to understand the current theory on what ever related subject, it just helps but it is also a lot of over kill and in the case of chem I know they put a lot of stuff into the work load of students that make it more about weeding people out and ranking students rather than making a semester that's all about building a genuine appreciation for chem. I have done chem subjects in both my degree which were at separate uni's and i have always been disappointed by the way organic chem in-particular is taught and the things they emphasize in exams. Org-chem and biochem for that matter were presented as exercises in wrote learning, not so much in the lectures and the pracs are usually grate. I have actually learnt more useful org chem in the year after i did the actual units, so much of org chems really is a waste of time to memorise and it takes ages to memorise, lie I could have spent every waking moment studying org-chem and nothing else (pretty much did) and ALL of it had been forgotten a couple of week after the exam.
Sorry for rambling on a bit I just wanted to say all that about uni study.
edits: for clarity
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did i do something wrong?
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sorry for all the posts but that part about the "The oxidative derivatives of mitragynine, i.e., mitragynine pseudoindoxyl (2) and 7-hydroxymitragynine (12), were found as opioid agonists with higher potency than morphine in the experiment with guinea pig ileum. In addition, 2 induced an analgesic activity in the tail flick test in mice."
that's pretty nice to know as the author states.
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"By the same logic cocaine is an atropine-related compound. You can argue it based on the structure but... When it comes to the crunch."
if your trying to say that there aren't important structural themes common to neurotransmission and that they aren't worth being interested in then I probably would disagree with that because structure and reactivity are pretty fundamental to all medicinal chemistry and looking for themes in nature is useful to understand any part of biochemistry. The indoleamines are a case in point, now we can learn about this aspect of their function in the animal that's all to do with keeping it alive and well. Very intersting to see this side to the biochemistry of indoleamines because it makes me feel good about tripping naturally on indoleamines. edit: and it's good thing there will be more to learn about indoleamines like how they regulate other hormones in the body like i am reading about thier role in puberty. easy find with google but i will try and the specific article i read a few weeks back if i can find it.
edit:sorry crazy typos everywhere
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Well I kinda hear you about not getting tooooooo caught up in the whole indoleamine thing but
indoleamines are well worth getting caught up in IMHO
"Indole groups are found widely of substances in nature, mitragynine and others have them yes but they're a tiny portion of its structure."
yes they are widely found in all life forms due to them being derived from the amino acid tryptophan but this makes them all the more worth getting caught up in.
also mitragynine is actually mostly indolamine not just a tiny part indoleamine but that's not necessarilyn an important concern when it comes to speculating on the properties of a given indoleamine.
I and many others are fascinated by indoleamines in general because we know that they tend to be amazingly important factor of biochem that's been a tad neglected by entheogentic forums...to my knowledge.
for example did you know that it seems all simple indolemaines are antioxidant and some are rediculaously powerful antioxidants. melatonin for example is suggested to be a very important antioxidant in the human. Just think, every time you catch eight hours sleep in the dark your functioning (hopefully functioning because, lots of adults succumb to calcification of the pineal gland and probably) pineal gland spews out heaps of indolemaines like melatonin which bath your brain in a powerful antioxidants, which probably also makes you dream like a champion at the same time.
Got to sleep in the dark!
So i am looking at papers that are giving me the impression that all indolemaine are potentially antioxidant… am guessing it’s the amines in the structure but i will have to check that.
Anyway, I got to go but i will post some supporting articles when i get back or do some indolemaine/pineal/antioxidant googling if you can’t wait.
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"Mitragynine, mitraphylline, and 7-Hydroxymitragynine are all indole alkaloids of various sorts:"
the fact that they are indoleamines found to be present in kratom catches my eye and does IMO make this article more than just splitting hairs.
it's interresting to me because indolemaines are often found to be active in serotonergic pathways. edit : indole alkaloid's/indoleamine's such as serotonin, melatonin, DMT, psilocybin, LSD etc etc
"The essential structural moieties in the Corynanthe type indole alkaloids for inducing the opioid agonistic activity were also clarified. The oxidative derivatives of mitragynine, i.e., mitragynine pseudoindoxyl (2) and 7-hydroxymitragynine (12), were found as opioid agonists with higher potency than morphine in the experiment with guinea pig ileum. In addition, 2 induced an analgesic activity in the tail flick test in mice."
ths is kind of the most interesting part of the article for me because they are saying this indole alkaloid (indoleamine) has been found to activate opiate pathways, which is/was not a particularly well known property of indoleamine type molecules. Not to my knowledge.
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No lies?
wouldn't he do better if he just promised to remove the carbon tax and then reneged on that promise after he wins the election.
what are the Australian people gonna do about that when it happens.....yell at their TV sets? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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sorry if this has been said but my advice after reading most of the thread is this.
maybe quitting caffeine isn't the biggest concern here in regards to your health. the 5 cans of coke a day is a lot of sugar, salt phosphoric acid and fuck knows what else and as far as i can tell that is the major health concern, not the caffeine.
as far as i can tell, 5 coke cans worth of caffeine is not all that much caffeine compared to coffee and if your enjoying the caffeine then maybe it's not at all worth quitting but obviously you'd want to do something to avoid diabetes etc.
so there's got to be some pretty awesome beverages that have a nice caffeine kick with naturally low sugar, you don't need zero sugar, you could have a couple of teaspoons of sugar in a coffee and be doing better than a can of coke because a can of coke is supposed to have 10 teaspoons of sugar plus like half a kg of salt.
coke taste's very strange and arterficial these days, i remember it was better before the changed the formula. these days i go for the cheap colas like RC-COLA which i think taste better.
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Thanks for that Lil Wayne vid qualia, I watched the whole thing twice, there's so many quotable lines in that 6 minutes he really runs his mouth like an absolute legend of a shit head
I like the part where he's teasing the British girl for not being able to pronounce the T's in "Lil Wayne".
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It looks like they're for real about all this. Mixing it with the soft drink must help this 13 year old to stomach the concentrated syrup and would reduce his risk of immediate overdose, helping to keep him alive long enough to advertise Lean
to his peers?.... or just an innovative and vibrant new youth culture?
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Lil Wayne's "Lean" documentary.
Is this for real?
fucking surreal...
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I had the worst trouble sleeping all through my childhood and twenties but I miraculously grew out of it a year or so ago. Go figure?
To be true it's not really miraculous because I am pretty sure I have a firm rasp of why I couldn't sleep and why I can now sleep but it was a bit miraculous in the sense that when I started being able to sleep I could really fucking sleep! I could sleep for 14 hours easily and would have to force my self to get up because I could have easily kept it going and often did. At the peak of my sleeping abilities it became a problem because I could pretty much choose to stay catatonic in dream land all day and that made me a bit sad after a while and I have managed to get some balance back.
It's so good to be able to sleep, relax and all that comes with it and I wish there was some advice I could give other than tough it out, keep working on underlying causes of insomnia etc. One important factor that makes things worse for me are drugs like alcohol, ghb, and benzos. I genuinely love sedatives but any of the gabba ones really shred my nerves. A few beers will leave me with an edgy feeling that I attribute to alcoholic withdrawal. There must be many young men who have done their dash with sedation via enhancement of gabbanergic (word?) transmission and have a similar reaction to those drugs. Interestingly, K and related drugs also do leave do it to me. Simply replacing those sedative drugs with others better suited to me has helped me a lot but it was a lot of work initially because euphoric sedatives that aren't of the gabba-system-shredding type are damn hard to come by on a regular basis and this is a massive problem I believe.
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hey thanks for the heads-up, there will likely be a lot of lion riding horse action in the capital cities tonight so don't forget to dress warm and bring extra musket/blunderbuss powder and wodding. Best of luck everyone
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thanks Halcyion
god damn it, I am sick of this particular type of unnerving sinking feeling that comes with the realisation you've been consuming something like for example, radioactive element in tobacco and neurotoxins in drinking water (which specifically target the most sacred human parts of the nervous system, like the secret war against endogenous indoleamines perpetrated against populations via water fluoridation, that one really sucks because of how successful it has been ) for sooo many years you must have had significant exposure. I think the fact that lots of it gets done to us with full knowledge of the harm it does, is what makes it the most unnerving for me and the fact that I have be oblivious to it for a long time...kind of like someone's been bashing me whilst I was passed out unconscious....LOL I don't like that feeling.
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I seem to remember (might have been a dream) that the guy who makes Adventure Time is/was? a member at gardening forums like SAB, I don't think it was SAB specifically but one of the gardening forums like SAB.
edit: thought I had better post a vid, sorry if it's not as tough as some of the vids posted lately but is's pretty tough...
keep rocking no stopping
you gotta rock-it don't stop
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Thanks very much ballzac and everyone for your posting about this, ballzac I think I get what you're saying, that basically it could be a problem with the radar and not the radar picking-up something that's actually physically there in the sky.
I thought the radar might be detecting the effects of one of those upper atmosphere heaters/resonators-antenna arrays IDK LOL that are positioned around the country, that's what I have read other people say they might be as well. Because there's so many of them of those radar anomalies and they come in many different varieties but are they too big for the antenna arrays that zap the sky?
How could a kind "wobble" in the equipment be so relieble/repeatable all over the country. If you click the link there are many of these patterns...seems strange and if it's physically there in the sky in the form of heat or ionisation of whatever it doesn't look very nice, I mean it look kind of ominous no? especially the massive thick blood red ones...very strange.
This one looks to me like what ballzac is describing and has shown with the link to a computer animation.
here's one of the blood red radar anomalies.
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lots of smart physics minded folk on these forums so I thought this would be a good place to ask...what do you think this is all about?
even the physics behind the specific type of radar used to generate these images, what could create that kind of effect? and so large? The Australian Radar Anomalies 'ODD RADAR' page has been compiling these images to help try and work them out so have a look.
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I agree with C_T's take on the article because illegal surveillance is too easy and probably too tempting for cops competing for promotions to justify not doing, I don't think they get into trouble for losing the case in that way? but it would be the "smart" thing to do when it's so easy to get away with, especially with all the latest tech and their built-in hackability.
how would one go about building a case (without the judges help) against lazy police in a case like this?
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This article goes into much greater depth for those interested. I have been reading a lot about this lately and am actually quite addicted to reading about this stuff this week.
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If we are talking about the CEV/OEV kind of visualising then it's my understanding that it can indeed be/ has actually been shown, quantified, visualised.
It's my understanding that these visuals actually exist as electromagnetic standing waves and the ability or degree to which an individual can see CEV/OEV can be quantified (based on how pronounced these standing waves are) or compared with the ability of others to do the same thing.
This is a bit hard to explain but don't worry they have pictures, also it helped me initially to watch some youtube videos on the subject of electromagnetism , standing waves, EEG, also the fact the neurons (just like a live wire) generate electromagnetic field.
In fact I think I might have first seen this link posted here or at the nook.
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and I suppose I just want to make clear the distinction between a drug that I have been addicted to before such as opium, which is causes very tangible dependence. I could not work or function at all really when I was in withdrawal. I have never seen that with pot in real life.
some people say that tobacco/cigarettes are more addictive than heroin and I can take the point as far as how hard it is to really get away from them but I think we need to be careful and distinct about what we mean when we talk about addiction.
there is a world of difference
The Australian "ODD RADAR" page?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e40AWLnDCms