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  2. Posted

    Beautiful photos! :)

     

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    Oh god I just realised after going through my photos that I may have already found Psilocybe semilanceata after all

     

    No, unfortunately you didn't. Without seeing the gills, I think this is P. foenisecii, but could also be a Psatyrella or Panaeolus.

    And the ones you think are Panaeolus cinctulus are also Panaeolina foenisecii.

  3. Posted

    Very nice find!

    As you might have read, it contains ergine(LSA) and also lysergic acid hydroxy ethylamine (LSH, google it!), I don't know if it is missing in sclerotia from Autralia as mentioned below, but I have read that it is very likely to decompose to LSA when it is extracted to be analyzed with GC/MS.

    Interesting to see that you did notice psychoactive effects just from handling them. I have picked lots of Claviceps purpurea and never noticed anything, the amount of alkaloids is to low. But if you got something there and that wasn't placebo, then it's VERY potent and VERY interesting.

    I hope you will do an oral bioassay sometime and report the results here.

    C. paspali submerged cultures have ergine, isoergine and lysergic acid N-1-hydroxyethylamide (Arcamone et al., 1960) while sclerotia from Australia contain up to 0.005% alkaloids composed of ergine and ergonovine along with chanoclavine and two unidentified ergoline alkaloids (Groger et al., 1961). Elymoclavine (Kobel et al., 1964) and agroclavine (Brar et al., 1968) have also been recorded. http://www.tacethno.com/info/claviceps/ergotalkfungi.txt

    BTW, may I please have your permission to use your photos in the Wiki at magiskamolekyler.org? http://wiki.magiskamolekyler.org/Claviceps_paspali

  5. Posted

    You should start looking when the day temperatures drop steady below 15C. The best hunting time is when its cold enough to want your gloves. A good sign of when the season is coming to it's end is when the ground freezes for serveral nights in a row or you get snow that stays on the ground for more than a day.

    And, I must add. It's not when Amanitas grow, the amanitas will be gone long before the liberty cap hunting season start.

  6. Posted · Edited by knarkkorven

    Best info I have found so far: http://www.shaman-australis.com/~benjamin-...lbu_belgra.html

    And in The entheogen Vol 14, no 1 (2005) there is more details about two experiences:

    In 1957, the Australian dietician Lucy Hamilton (Mrs. J.

    Reid) conducted an experiment at Okapa in the Eastern

    Highlands of Papua New Guinea to observe the effects of

    eating a substance called “agara” bark, identified as the

    species Galbulimima belgraveana (F. Muell.) Sprague

    (Hamilton 1960). The French ethnobotanist Jacques

    Barrau was also present at Okapa to observe this experiment

    (Barrau 1958). A local man called Ogia volunteered

    to do the bioassay. Seven or eight pieces of “agara” bark about

    the “size of a penny” were chewed and swallowed. While

    Ogia masticated the bark, he also smoked some tobacco,

    chewed some ginger, and additionally ate the dried leaves of

    a plant called “ereriba” (an unidentified Homalomena species).

    Following consumption of all this, Ogia waited for the

    effects, which began shortly thereafter:

    […He] began to tremble, as they say, “like a kuru meri.”

    His arms and body trembled, but not his legs. After a

    few minutes of this, he suddenly became quite violent.

    He swept all the things off the table and would have done

    quite a bit of damage if I hadn’t had a policeman standing

    by to detain him. I was very thankful for this forethought

    as I was the only European on the station at the

    time… He was put in handcuffs and let go outside. He

    picked up a stick and chased several people with it. He

    tried to take a bush knife from a workman in the garden.

    The station women were warned to keep their children

    inside. I am convinced that his behavior was not an act,

    as from a pleasant mild little man, he had suddenly become

    a crazed being. He neither spoke or smiled, and at

    first did not appear to hear. The pupils of his eyes were

    mere pinpoints. At the onset of violence the trembling

    had ceased (Hamilton 1960).

    Ogia’s destructive frenzy was followed by calmness, euphoria,

    drowsiness, and finally a deep sleep that lasted for several

    hours (Hamilton 1960). It has been suggested that, after

    eating “agara” bark, one experiences visions while asleep

    (Schultes & Hofmann 1979; Hamilton 1960). For this reason,

    the bark has been called “dream man” among the Fore

    people (Hamilton 1960), although several other substances

    used by the Fore to produce visions are also known by this

    term, including the “ereriba” that Ogia had eaten, as well as

    “maraba” (Kaempferia galangal) (Hamilton 1960). However,

    Ogia reported no visions related to his experience. He later

    told Hamilton that the reason he did not experience any

    visions was because he did not want to. It was also suggested

    to Hamilton that in this experiment, Ogia had eaten “agara”

    bark in the morning and not in the evening, which was

    thought to be the proper time to eat “dream man.” The only

    aftereffect reported by Ogia was a stomach ache (Hamilton

    1960).

    MY OWN EXPERIENCE

    On September 21, 2003, at 7:15 pm, I bioassayed dried and

    powdered “agara” bark. Below is the chronology of effects.

    7:15 pm • Begin chewing 10 grams of “agara” bark

    7:16 pm • Intensely bitter taste

    7:20 pm • Strong alkaloidal after taste, similar to quinine

    7:25 pm • Bark is swallowed

    7:55 pm • First alert, becoming drowsy

    7:57 pm • Dilated pupils

    8:00 pm • Difficulty in concentration

    8:05 pm • Increased pulse and heart rate

    8:10 pm • Pleasant drowsiness, similar to 0.3 mg dose of

    hyoscine (scopolamine) hydrobromide, but

    without changes in perception

    8:15 pm • Dizziness

    8:20 pm • Lying down with eyes closed, no eidetic images

    8:25 pm • Relaxation

    8:30 pm • Hypnagogic state with no dreams

    9:55 pm • Drowsiness wearing off

    10:05 pm • Afterglow, euphoria

    10:25 pm • Baseline, no aftereffects

    The effects that I got from eating “agara” bark could be characterized

    as a “plus two” on the “Degree of Intensity Scale”

    (Shulgin et al. 1986), also known as the “Quantitative Scale

    of Potency” (Shulgin & Shulgin 1991); that is, “There is an

    unmistakable effect, and both the duration and the nature

    of the effect can be stated.”

  7. Posted

    DMT is released during dreaming, when there is a MAO inhibitor active, the DMT will not be broken down as fast as usual resulting in more vivid dreams.

    Bullshit... Not facts, only myths.

    And why did he use such large doses? Its enough with 100-200mg/day.... I have used S. capensis several times (week long experiments) and the only side effects is the feeling of not having slept enough during the night. I wake up at the normal time but it feels like I want to sleep a few hours more.

    But the dreams are worth it. Very vivid and totaly crazy :)

    I don't think S. capensis is a MAOI

  10. Posted

    Still, this is interesting, experience of one of the four subjects who had a "definite" prolonged reaction to oral myristicin 400mg: (unable to post entire paper as it takes up more than required upload memory due to photo copy) "The Pharmacology of Myristicin, A Contribution to the Psychopharmacology of Nutmeg" reference:

    Can you upload it somewhere else, please?

    This is the best reference I've read so far of the effect of pure myristicin on humans.

    The second best is this one:

    According to 'THE ENCYCLOPEDIA OF PURE MATERIA MEDICA' by Timothy F. Allen MD, the effects of eating second year parsnips were:

    "Illusions, loss of consciousness, quiet delirium; the illusions were confined to vision, and the patients stared and grasped at imaginary objects in the air, etc.; some of them did not speak at all, others only indistinctly or incoherently; two of them used inarticulate sounds; almost uninterrupted attempts to get out of bed

    All labored under delirium tremens; they were in constant motion, talking incessantly, without knowing what they said, and fancied they saw objects which had no existence. They fought with each other and were occasionally attacked with fits of convulsive laughter. They rejected everything that was offered them and were obliged to be restrained by force."

  11. Posted · Edited by knarkkorven

    Good work tregar!

    I read about your destillation plans at The Nook, I'm in the process of building a setup myself. Found about 800g parsnip roots a few weeks ago, now stored in my freezer. Also, I've ead reports from other swedes getting a stoned, trippy feeling from 20-30g fresh roots. Looks promising!

    what a pointless paper. why didn't he just analyse the gingerbread or compare raw gingerbread with cooked gingerbread [via bioassay]

    Yes, I thought the same thing. lots of hypothesis without any evidence or experiments to make something out of it...

  12. Posted

    This pdf contains a review of the different reports and studies, the best i've read so far. It also propose a different theory

    about how allylbenzenes can be aminated to essential amphetamines.

    In Sweden it's an old tradition to eat gingersnaps before christmas, and we tell each other to eat lots of it to become nicer. I discovered that this tradition goes way back in time to 1497 - 1501 when a King named "Hans" ruled Denmark, Norway and for a brief time Sweden. He had a bad temper and his doctor recommended gingerbread because it was generally known to make you happy. The pharmacist in Copenhagen apparently had records of sending several kilos of gingerbread to the king. :)

    What do you think? Can the essential oils become aminated "in furno" ?

    Christmas Gingerbread (Lebkuchen) and Christmas Cheer – Review of the Potential Role of Mood Elevating Amphetamine-like Compounds Formed in vivo and in furno

    Abstract: The typical spices used in winter include nutmeg, cinnamon, clove and

    anise. These spices contain two groups of chemicals, the allylbenzenes and their

    isomers, the propenylbenzenes. It was suggested 40 years ago by Alexander

    Shulgin that these substances act as metabolic precursors of amphetamines.

    The biotransformation of these precursors to nitrogen-containing metabolites is

    reviewed. These reactions have not been reported in humans. Whether or not the

    pharmacology and toxicology of spices such as nutmeg can be explained on the

    basis of their allylbenzene or propenylbenzene content is speculative. Humans may

    be exposed to amphetamines derived from these precursors in forno, the

    formation during baking and cooking, for example in the preparation of Lebkuchen,

    or Christmas gingerbread. It is possible that this may be responsible, in part, for

    uplifting our mood in winter. However, the role of these aromatic substances,

    acting simply as odours, evoking old memories of winters past, cannot be ignored.

    Whether spices have a true pharmacological effect or they act as aromatherapy

    remains to be elucidated through clinical and laboratory studies.

    ...

    there exists an alternative means by which consumption

    of certain foodstuffs may lead to amphetamine exposures, and that is the

    formation of these compounds during the cooking process, what I have called “in

    furno.” Examination of the Lebkuchen recipe in Table 3 reveals chemical

    constituents that, when heated together in furno might plausibly result in some

    ammonia addition to the alkenylbenzene double bonds, which would lead to the

    presence in the Lebkuchen of 4-methoxyamphetamine (PMA) from (E)-anethole

    and 4-hydroxy-3-methoxyamphetamine (HMA) from eugenol. It is readily calculated

    from Table 3 that just a 1% yield in these reactions could lead to amphetamine

    content in excess of 80 mg per kg Lebkuchen. Unfortunately, no scientific data on

    the content of these compounds in baked goods has ever been published to my

    knowledge. The formal hallucinogenic doses of PMA and is 50-80 mg [6] and for

    HMA is not known [6]. It may be sufficient for a person to ingest tiny amounts of

    these compounds from the winter diet, in order to elevate the mood and to help

    providing some added Christmas cheer.

    http://pmr.cuni.cz/Data/files/PragueMedica...5-01%20Idle.pdf

  13. Posted

    Planthelper:

    I have looked at coldfinger destillation, and yes it's simple, but is it good enough?

    My concern is that the temperature don't spread evenly in the pot, might burn the plant material in the bottom

    and not heat the plant material at the top?

    How about an ethanol extraction? Making your own parsnip liquor? :)

    Torsten:

    If you bioassay the parsnip oil, let us know if it worked.

  14. Posted

    I am now posting the paper here.

    Thanks! I have been looking for this one! :)

    I have read almost everything on this forum regarding essential oils and the phenetylamine conversion.

    Your reports of rubbing the oils on muscles sound promising Torsten!

    I discovered about a year ago that parsnips allowed to grow into it's second year are a good source of myristicin.

    I tried them (5-10g dry) last year with mild effects, will try again this year fresh to preserve the volatiles better... My kitchen was really smelly last year, haha :)

    I am wondering about how one would do a simple extraction. I don't have a destillation setup, but was thinking about cooking plant

    material in water with a bit of butter or other fat under a lid, filter the liquid and let it cool down to the point when the fat hardens enough

    to be separated with the actives. Would this work?

    Check this out:

    "Illusions, loss of consciousness, quiet delirium; the illusions were confined to vision, and the patients stared and grasped at imaginary objects in the air, etc.; some of them did not speak at all, others only indistinctly or incoherently; two of them used inarticulate sounds; almost uninterrupted attempts to get out of bed"

    "All labored under delirium tremens; they were in constant motion, talking incessantly, without knowing what they said, and fancied they saw objects which had no existence. They fought with each other and were occasionally attacked with fits of convulsive laughter. They rejected everything that was offered them and were obliged to be restrained by force."

    Source: THE ENCYCLOPEDIA OF PURE MATERIA MEDICA av Timothy F. Allen http://www.nwbotanicals.org/oak/altagri/parsnips.htm

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