highdesertcacti

i have a few of these sourced from europe,,, ill have to grow them before i have anything to really say bout them

typical of plants at ss, trust me, i will love it tender when it arrives! eh... you could but that clouds the waters even more for the topic imo,,, but its just my opinion. the fact that the reverts are normal (like tpqc, but unlike altmans tpm) is why i said non-tpm i assume the cresting started from physical damage, but who knows? not rootbound just potted to high, next year otr the following when it out grows that pot it still wont be rootbound cuz its one of those new nifty-difty smart pots ;)

ss sells two "tpm"'s without habitat source that are always available, that i assume he commercially sourced, one cl.a and one cl. b. maybe he has some input on the more common commercial clones.

a tpc cut from the uncle's mega crest. obtained in garden grove, ca from "an old japanese lady in the 80's" the reverts are almost spineless fat chunk normal columns.not realy a tpm but worth a share.

some random tpc that are shooting tpms that were sourced from a nursery in the middle of nowhere by the mexican border. they had a TON of them and there were dirt cheap source or clone unknown

some tpm's from ss. let me say, there are alot more pics of his freaks out there. some can be found on trichocereus.net under the field trips section. i also have a few friends on here who may chime in with a few of theres that are different then mine either because they were seed grown or because theyre one of the clones that i havent personally collected. but pictures of mine (and yes the last pic is my cactus but ben's pic). so the first and the last are both seed grown 08611.4 tpm's one obviously crested and the othe looking as typical as a tpm mutant can look. the first he labeled 08611.4 clone a in the 2015 spring sale. the second i just bought from him labeled as a crest. these are both 'sisters' of azs 'leyenda' he had multiple different monsters that came from these seed. i also have three normal forms from the same seed batch. he indicated in his field notes that there was a monstrose pachanoi near the mother from which the seed came. i believe i heard that ccc originally got there tpm from lima, peru. but there are alot of tpms in lima as the internet has allowed us to see. the second is bk14518.5 which also produced alot of mutants and crests and normals, i opt'd to buy a crest and a normal- sorry no mutant to show here. i did buy a seed pack of this one and the .4 tho and hope to get some mutant in there! hopefully the crest spits mutant reverts as well. its worth mentioning here there are other tpm's he has made available over the last few years, and that he has also done a lot of tpmx pachanoid x's like pallarensis, huanacamba, pc, etc. he has also x'd tpm with alot of other species. between him, misplant, nitro, and some of you other maniacs the water is getting a little muddy... AND WE LIKE IT!

some tpm's from ss. let me say, there are alot more pics of his freaks out there. some can be found on trichocereus.net under the field trips section. i also have a few friends on here who may chime in with a few of theres that are different then mine either because they were seed grown or because theyre one of the clones that i havent personally collected. but pictures of mine (and yes the last pic is my cactus but ben's pic). so the first and the last are both seed grown 08611.4 tpm's one obviously crested and the othe looking as typical as a tpm mutant can look. the first he labeled 08611.4 clone a in the 2015 spring sale. the second i just bought from him labeled as a crest. these are both 'sisters' of azs 'leyenda' he had multiple different monsters that came from these seed. i also have three normal forms from the same seed batch. he indicated in his field notes that there was a monstrose pachanoi near the mother from which the seed came. i believe i heard that ccc originally got there tpm from lima, peru. but there are alot of tpms in lima as the internet has allowed us to see. the second is bk14518.5 which also produced alot of mutants and crests and normals, i opt'd to buy a crest and a normal- sorry no mutant to show here. i did buy a seed pack of this one and the .4 tho and hope to get some mutant in there! hopefully the crest spits mutant reverts as well. its worth mentioning here there are other tpm's he has made available over the last few years, and that he has also done a lot of tpmx pachanoid x's like pallarensis, huanacamba, pc, etc. he has also x'd tpm with alot of other species. between him, misplant, nitro, and some of you other maniacs the water is getting a little muddy... AND WE LIKE IT!

a tpqc which i recvd for my birthdayalmost a year ago- purchased from Misplant. i think my question on the tpqc stems from another thread i read where nitro stated it was sourced from a chain store; and it's reverts look like altman's 'true pach' (what do we call that clone? is there already a name?); and its seeds have never produced mutation (for me at least); could it be the same clone? *edit: tbc, "it was sourced from a chain store;" was the only part i was trying to say i remember nitro stating. the rest is my observation... ***EDIT: this not TPQC, but rather Nitrogen's TPC.

starting with confirmed altman's so here are two from altman's confirmed. the first i have grown for years and never seen anything but ONE rib shift, and its clones have been grown in multiple conditions. i refer to this as totem pole (maybe it said it on the altmans pot? idk why i call it that). the second clone is the typical altmans tpm. it is pretty reliable to have short spines except for the occasional late 1"+ spine that shoots on older growth. the third is another altman's tpm --- its an ugly! *forgot to mention, i assume the 'totem pole' to be the 'short spine peruvianus' from CCC

the ccc clone is refered to by many here in the us as 'short spined peru'. i imagine it is the same as altmans tpm

i'd keep an eye on local trading/selling websites and FB, play it cool , play it lo-pro, then snaps on em!

so, ill get the ball roll'n: rumor: the manager of sun moon nursery in las vegas told me, they sourced their tpm's/crests from ccc who a. got them imported with great difficulty from peru years ago, and b. sold clones to altmans originally. the gal who shared this with me is not a trich-trick and is pretty reliable with her info...

if it seeds, would they be made available on your website????? ....PLEASE!

well said! ive already had two people from this community contact me on different venues to offer me a few free seeds from the seeds they got from you, Nitro. Some people are recving more then just a bag of seeds from you! Legend! @Solaritea @CactEye

looks like what happens whe a happy cacus get taken to a stump. if the pups start to pup then its time to bust out the torches and pitchforks!

which is eg's way of saying its plainly a pc type

aka sanky

this last one... maybe brevistylus?

the last two which you are questioning appear to be, pachanoi, and altman's tpm, respectively. nice looking collection mate! cheers.

RECVD SEED TODAY!! WOO... HOO!!! Thanks, for reals! Legend!

just throwing it out there because it just dawned on me... Many of Leyenda's brothers and sister's have come out monstrose and crested. While Leyenda isnt a freak (in that way), she has got the genes and who knows what may become of her offspring! here is a pic of one of leyend's sisters and of the hzxleyendas pop'n:

um... YES PLEASE!

howdy, fairly new here myself. looking forward to seeing pics!

hey what do you know, it opened a few minutes later!