webby

seeds are a bit pricey though..... http://www.austrahort.com.au/vmchk/acacia-/acacia-merinthophora/detailed-product-flyer

Bugger - not arguing with you, I heard that about the 5meo years ago and just took it for granted that it was true, hmmm, I turned down the offer of some free acacia extract a while back thinking it was not what I was after - double bugger - thanks heaps for the heads up. - Please tell me that me P viridis is a true NN source or I am going to be very miffed. I've been talking to that bloody plant for months lol.- was waiting till it gets much bigger and more established before trying to do anything with it. Of course if only there had been google all those years ago when the bufoon that told me it was 5meo Just did a bit of digging and found this list.... THE FOLLOWING SPP. HAVE BEEN FOUND TO CONTAIN TRYPTAMINES (or are psychoactive) 1 Acacia acuminata 1.5-1.8%DMT many bioassays [numerous net reports; Voogelbreinder 2009 citing 'Jeremy'] 2 Acacia acuminata subsp.burkittii DMT in bark [J.J., EGA 2011] 3 Acacia alpina DMT-like effects, alkaloid in leaf [M. Bock; dmt-nexus] 4 Acacia auriculiformis 5-MeO-DMT in stem bark [Trout & friends] 5 Acacia baileyana tryptamine and βcarbolines, in the leaf, Tetrahydroharman (see Tikhal) 6 Acacia binervata DMT reagent +ve ('M' + Nen 2001) 7 Acacia blakei DMT-like effects [dmt-nexus.me] 8 Acacia cardiophylla mixture tryptamine & phenethylamine phyllodes [White 1957] 9 Acacia colei 1% DMT bark [ABC Radio National; several net reports] 10 Acacia complanata 0.3% alkaloids in leaf and stem, N-methyl-tetrahydroharman, traces tetrahydroharman, tryptamine[Johns, Lamberton, and Sioumis (1966)] 11 Acacia sp.'c' (NB. Endangered) DMT (this species has been extracted in the underground & not grown, for goodness sake grow some!, 300 adult trees, makes A. phlebophylla (15,000 trees) look common. 12 Acacia cultriformis Tryptamine in leaf,stem & seeds, Phenethylamine leaf & seeds [Poland herabrium] 13 Acacia cyclops alkaloids NMT/DMT-like effects, 1 bioassay[dmt-nexus.me] 14 Acacia dallichana (hybrid?) DMT-like effects [reported to Nen 2011] 15Acacia difformis DMT, 5meoDMT in leaves [s.Voogenbreinder citing Trout] 16 Acacia elata DMT,5meoDMT,NMT,Formlytryptamine,betacarbolines 1 test; 1 report no alkaloid [dmt-nexus.me] 17 Acacia falcata psychoactive 1 bioassay, possible tryptamines [dmt-nexus.me, Australian Ethnobotany] 18 Acacia floribunda 0.3-0.8% DMT, NMT, tryptamine, harman [s. Voogenbreinder; numerous net reports]; numerous bioassays 19Acacia harpophylla 0.5% Hordenine, phenethylamines, psychoactive[see wikipedia] 20 Acacia longifolia 0.2-3%DMT[numerous net reports] 0.2% tryptamine in bark, leaves; phenylethylamine in flowers; Histamines [White 1942, Roveli 1967,Chemotaxonomie der Pflanzenr] 21 Acacia longifolia var. sophorae 0.6%DMT,5meoDMT,Tryptamine,Bufotenine,Gramine ,Cinnamoylhistamine, n-dec-3enoylhistamine[entheogen review 1995], some strains very little alkaloid 22 Acacia longissima DMT-like effects[dmt-nexus.me] 23 Acacia maidenii 0.6-0.7% DMT,NMT [CSIRO]trace betacarboline, numerous bioassays of active strain 24 Acacia mearnsii psychoactive, 1.2% DMT bark [dmt-nexus.me; EGA 2011] 25 Acacia melanoxylon DMT, in the bark and leaf, but less than 0.02%, 1 report higher yield[dmt-nexus.me] [extentech.sheetster.com,pharmaceutical excipients.com] 26 Acacia mucronata var. longifolia 0.4% DMT,NMT,Tryptamine, betacarbolines [snu Voogenbreider Garden of Eden citing 'E', dmt-nexus.me] var. disstiflora and other varieties strong alkaloid +ve [CSIRO 1990; Roveli 1967] 27 Acacia multisiliqua DMT in a few tests [J.J. EGA 2011] 28 Acacia neurophylla DMT (bark), harman, norharman (leaves) [s. Voogenbreinder Garden Of Eden citing 'Jeremy'] 29 Acacia obtusifolia 0.18-0.6%DMT,NMT,betacarboline(typical)also sometimes 5meoDMT, Tryptamine, Bufotenine [numerous refs, see threads in dmt-nexus.me] 30 Acacia orites (rare, limited to one area)0.07-0.15% alkaloid (unknown), (UV fluoresence) [Nen 2002; S. Voogenbreinder citing 'E'] 31 Acacia oxycedrus 0.4-0.5% alkaloid stem-bark DMT-like effects [dmt-nexus.me] 32 Acacia phlebophylla (rare, limited to one area) 0.3% DMT in leaf [CSIRO, Rovelli] 33 Acacia podalyriaefolia tryptamine [White 1951] not replicated claim of 1.8%DMT [Chemotaxonomie der Pflanzen by Robert Hegnauer]; all low yeild results on net 34 Acacia provincialis 0.2-0.5% alkaloids (unknown) tryptamine-like effects [dmt-nexus.me] 35 Acacia pycnantha 0.5% Tyrptamines bark [1995 resaerch paper]0.02% alkaloid leaf [Chemotaxonomie der Pflanzen by Robert Hegnauer],small amount DMT leaves [s. Voogenbreinder] 36 Acacia retinodes 0.2% alkaloid (unknown) [Roveli 1967];0.5%DMT, NMT, nicotine?,[Pflanzentabelle APB (German)] 37 Acacia thoma NMT with some DMT and ß-carbolines [J.J.EGA 2011] 38 Acacia victoriae Tryptamines (DMT?), 5-MeO-alkyltryptamine[Trouts Notes,] CURRENTLY UNDER INVESTIGATION DUE TO STRONG EVIDENCE Acacia concurrens (in research) Acacia decurrens (confirmed alkaloids) Acacia holosericia (Hordenine, phenethylaime) Acacia implexa (alkaloids) Acacia kettlewelliae (multiple Phenethylamines-White 1952, Fitzgerald et al 1963) Acacia macradenia (net reported tryptamines, unconfirmed) Acacia mangium (reported DMT, unconfirmed) Acacia obliquifloila (in research) ALSO REPORTED PSYCHOACTIVE Acacia beauverdiana Acacia cuthbertsonii Acacia deliberata

You do know that the DMT extracted from acias is not NN DMT of the Terence McKenna elves variety but 5meo DMT ? which is considered by the wider psychedelic community to provide a much lesser experience, will not get you to elf land or the dome and is not anything like the NN DMT used in Ayahuasca brews using p viridis.

in my experience the chances of finding an authentic shaman as a tourist is like looking for a needle in a hay stack, most of them are rascals, and you drink a lot of swill before you find decent yage.

I really like it

I'm still getting over and processing the deepest mushroom trip I had, and that was many moons ago, I still indulge but never with the same level of confidence I had before the 8 dry gram ass whooping I got and never in the higher doses that I always loved before. I am still struggling with it and am disappointed with myself in some ways when I chicken out of mushrooms out of total fear and anxiety, I have never understood why it seemed to turn on me the way it did, yes some valuable insights and lessons were learned but it did seem overly harsh and has left somewhat of a hole in my psychedelic life. does that make sense ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmhAVBNwE4Y&feature=share

Blew it, woke up at 9.15 and just couldn't get there, bummer. will keep my eyes open for postings of future meets, really need some socializing soon.

ok cool, thanks heaps, its still bendy so fingers crossed it will come back.

Well, i think it's dead, I got it as a cutting in a small pot, it grew pretty vigorously for a few months, then I re-potted it into a larger pot and it still was looking healthy and lush for a few months after that. Now all the leaves have dropped off, its been like this for a couple of weeks, have I killed it ?

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I love the Bard McKenna, not because he was a great philosopher or radical brilliant scientist, but because he was a poet, a rascal who liked to take mushrooms and smoke heaps of pot and found a way to do that on his own piece of paradise in Hawaii, all by writing a few entertaining crazy books and giving a bunch of highly out there talks and enthralling his followers with the magic of a good story well told.. He never took himself seriously and constantly advised other to do the same, to take his ideas with a pinch of salt, all he hoped to do was inspire people to go out and have their own experiences, to drop the conditioning of culturally sanctioned beliefs and make you own experience and conclusions your primary ground of being, and in my opinion that is great advice. He was one of the people who helped me to grow up, to open my mind and my heart to an infinitely bigger picture of reality than I had ever imagined was possible and for that I thank him and offer a toast to his memory. But as far as using any of his ideas to base my own metaphysics or spiritual philosophy on, well that's just crazy and not what he was trying to sell, the people who make McKenna or anyone else into their own personal guru do so by their own reasoning, it's their choice,, People give the guru spiritual authority by insisting to themselves that the guru has it, McKenna was nuts, and that's what made him so great, he gave us all permission to be a bit nuts, without feeling guilty about it. If I had to recommend a philosopher that would provide someone with a good grounding of ideas and a foothold on gasping their own mind I would point them towards Alan Watts, One recent and interesting fact that has come out about Terence and a fact that in some ways rocked many of his followers is the revelation through Dennis McKenna and Kat Harrison that Terrence actually stopped taking all psychedelics in 1988 after a really bad mushroom trip that just ripped him to shreds, but the bills needed to be paid, the lecture tours were sold out so Terence continued to deliver the schpeel but his heart was no longer in it the same way, and this in fact was a thing that privately tormented him in the final decade of his life, he was still the showman, but he had lost faith in the show. lorenzo at the psychedelic salon released a talk from elsalen that was held recently where this was discussed in some depth. the podcast is here.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9azkhnLMVp8

well I just checked google maps, it says its 270 ks from me, will take 3 1/2 hours each way. have to talk the missus into the idea now,.. i'm working on it, this feels an important thing to do for some reason.

I should try and get around to spending more time interacting on this forum, I joined some time ago but have been a bit lost in my own world for a few months. I live in Northern NSW, couple of hours south of the border, about 5 hours from Brisbane, maybe a bit less time now they have done a few upgrades on the pacific highway I gues, furthest north I've been for a couple of years now is the gold coast, I've been a bit of a hermit. Point is, I'm about ready to come out of my shell again and feel the need to step outside and "find the others". So even though it's quite a drive, I am seriously considering making the effort and coming to this Brisbane meeting (which is now tomorrow - so I am totally acting on last minute impulse. My partner and I walked away from the corporate mainstream culture a few years ago and have been focused on surviving with our own food growing and participating in the capitalist system as little as is possible when you have a teenage daughter in high school (now TAFE) and 4 cats to feed I left the building industry and just sort of dropped out and have been slowly eroding my savings as I expanded my consciousness and my partner is a primary school teacher and is the driving force behind our veggie garden. way too much to explain here and now but I guess what I am doing is reaching out to the local (ish) community for some social contact with like minded people. Would we be welcome to just turn up at the Brisbane get together ? (even if we don't make it tomorrow it would be good to plan on making it next month). Are there any meetups or community events that happen in NNSW ?

Yeh I did think about how I could have pulled em out better right after I had pulled them, but it was a stealth attack, I had to leap over a fence at the side of a main road so I didn't have a lot of time to be scientific, I would have liked to have taken photos in situ and stuff. but my heart was pumping lol. Now I have a dilemma, cos I really want to eat them right now tonight but it's not the right day, set and setting are all wrong, so I have them in a paper bag, but I don't know how much potency they will lose over a week in a dark dry place. I have read that the fresher they are the stronger they are, and I was tempted to just down them right there in the field, but age and wisdom prevailed. Also, the last time I found similar specimens I waited for about 3 days then ate them and they were really really strong, I was surprised actually at the intensity of the visuals, definitely heaps better than acid. So what are your opinions on how much potency they lose in a few days ? thanks webby