Edicius

Kansas seriously lacks native etheogens, only thing we have is desmanthus illinoesis and jimson weed (nasty ass datura). Oh and weed grows everywhere so that doesn't really need to be stated. But anyways, some new varieties of kratom would be nice. [ 10. March 2004, 08:02: Message edited by: Edicius ]

True, but normal oxidation wont convert much of the product. Most of it will remain the original composition.

Personally I'd want the oxidated product as leaving it out wont produce that much, might just make it a a tad stronger. Im currently scouring databases in search of the correct synthesis of Mitragynine pseudoindoxyl. No luck yet, perhaps a rhodium person might have some information.

Illegal in the US of course. Even if it can cure a heroin adiction in one does. Oh well.

No offense but lycaeum was king. You had to post an essay to join the forums, and there was no childish crap or fake reports. Just a lot of very smart individuals with real information on any drug subject. No one knows what happened to lycaeum in the past month, but Im sure im not the only one who will miss it. Now if you want false information join blueligh.nu . TONS of members, but only about 5% have any idea wtf they are talking about. Anyways..ya i miss it.

God society is dumb.

No law on it in the States. i dont know anyone besides myself and one other who even knows of the drug.

Wow, perhaps i have found a new home away from the lycaeum. I love posts like that. I too wondered about dopamine "magic", As wellbutrin I obtained was a DA reuptake inhibitor but not euphoric. (yes you mentioned that) I began to wonder what else plays roles in cocaines euphoria. Your post was quite educating, thank you for the post. Perhaps someone will discover this, and we can all be happy all the time :D JK

Hello aussie friends. I have no home anymore now that the lycaeum has died. Im just hoping one of you out there knows the fate of lycaeum. Any info would be great. And being from the USA, I sympathize with your feelings about unfair drug laws. ):

cool im member 1000

Hello from kansas! Nice to say hi to some aussie psychonauts. But seriously, if all that has been discussed above is true, then someone could make massive quanities pyschoactive matter from a decent amount of kratom. If kavaman is doing this, his "extract" is very cheap for him to make, and he can sell it as true kratom extract for much more. Almost a scam, I dont know his prices, but if someone were to make his powder themselves like electro sort of did, then they would be saving a ton of money. This is in assumption kavamans pricing his extract quite high, or even close to a real extracts price.